The Illuminati

[Guest Miles Per Hour]

The illuminati is a group of people that control the world. It's everywhere, turning you into a mind controlled slave for the new world order. The media is their mainstream.

..... Sounds far fetched right?

Media Explanation:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJi2HaJf1VI

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW43Mig1LYE

More videos regarding Michael Jacksons death:

La Toya Jackson "They murdered my brother" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFPjFyfcj8E

Michael Jacksons warns of 2012 Illuminati conspiracy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vn8cVoK70M

If you do some more research then the pieces will click together. What are your views on this?

Yes, I created a topic similar to this. But hopefully everyone can be mature enough to discuss this.

Edited September 20, 2010 by Miles Per Hour

[CrownSlayers Shadow]

My views? Well...I'd like to join the Illuminati. Where can I sign up?

In all seriousness, it's quite a bizarre thing to mention. If I recall, the original Illuminati members were a society of freethinkers who believed only in that which fell in the realms of fact and reason. For them to want to control the world would seem almost like a contradiction to their ideals in that they would be wanting to control the people rather than let them think freely, unless doing so is part of their plot for a New World Order.

What would be a little odd would be that they would allow this kind of information about them to float around the web and media if they still exists, especially considering how for a secret society like them to operate towards said goals, they would do so without any shred of information be known about them...unless, again, that is part of their plot. Still bizarre.

Edited September 20, 2010 by ChaosSupremeSonic

[Badnik Mechanic]

If you do some more research then the pieces will click together. What are your views on this?

Complete and utter crap put together by a bunch of people with nothing better to do than to try and start some kind of revolution against a government that they dislike?

There is so much laughable about those videos I don't know where to begin?

Hmmmm What could Michael Jackson be talking about?

.... Hmmmm Ah yes! Must be a worldwide conspiracy involving control... yup thats gotta be it... Well time to make a youtube video.

[Saint Nathan]

If you do some more research then the pieces will click together. What are your views on this?

No, it doesn't.

This thing you're doing, where for some reason your finding conspiracies that don't really exist, it's kinda strange.

This is pretty much bullshit. The whole thing. Do yourself a favor and just not try looking for things that don't exist. You sound like the people who go "9/11 wasn't a plane it was a missile from the government pigs who wanted to have a war against Russia for the sake of socialism"

There's no proof for it, and you're just making things up using the smallest possible shreds of non-existent evidence.

[Kevin]

Complete and utter crap put together by a bunch of people with nothing better to do than to try and start some kind of revolution against a government that they dislike?

There is so much laughable about those videos I don't know where to begin?

This. There's zero evidence of this supposed "group" controlling the world, and the whole thing is really laughable at best. I don't know where people got this conspiracy from, but it's a really bad one.

[Saint Nathan]

This. There's zero evidence of this supposed "group" controlling the world, and the whole thing is really laughable at best. I don't know where people got this conspiracy from, but it's a really bad one.

Pretty much just this.

[agoodusername]

I don't believe in a modern Illuminati. It's some of the stupidest BS I've ever read about in my life. However, Dream Theater made a pretty fucking awesome song about it though! !

Edited September 20, 2010 by Edge

[Tornado]

Pretty much just this.

But but but but but Dan Brown did "research" that brings up tons of "facts" that makes what his stories were about "plausible."

Edited September 20, 2010 by Tornado

[Agent York]

They must be aligned with the Las illuminados!

http://residentevil.wikia.com/Los_Illuminados

Revolt! They want new world order and to put parasites into all of our heads! These Youtube videos will let you see the extent of them in full detail:

Sorry, but this is a conspiracy theory and not a very good one... I mean I would want to discuss but this is pieces together non-facts to a urological conclusion...

Edited September 20, 2010 by Dusk the Wisp Keeper

[Badnik Zero]

Yes, powerful people control certain parts of your life. That's what power is. It's not a secret.

Why would it have anything to do with a 300-year-old powdered wig society.

How about in China you know the government will kick your ass, and you don't need a super villain fantasy to entertain yourself.

[CrownSlayers Shadow]

But but but but but Dan Brown did "research" that brings up tons of "facts" that makes what his stories were about "plausible."

But Galileo wasn't even around when the Illuminati was even founded in both the date and the country where it began.

Where the hell did Brown get that kind of "research" in the first place? (don't answer that; rhetorical question)

[Aries]

All I will say is that you can keep researching a matter or dismiss it as a fake quickly, Its very easy to mock and debunk anything but hard to keep learning. You take the information learn it and do with it what you want, its better to know than to stay in darkness.

Just save the information, it can be useful later on in your life.

Those are my 2Cents on the matter, See ya!~

Edited September 20, 2010 by Aries

[Saint Nathan]

All I will say is that you can keep researching a matter or dismiss it as a fake quickly,

Where is this research? I see none. At all.

And it's pretty easy to dismiss something that wasn't researched. Seeing as there are no facts at all.

You take the information learn it and do with it what you want,

Conspiracy Theorists generally do this. They learn information and then change it and do what they want with it, ignoring source material and context and everything that could disprove their point (as in, everything but the one word they end up focusing on.)

its better to know than to stay in darkness.

It's better to know, than to pretend you do.

Just save the information, it can be useful later on in your life.

"Oh no! A group that doesn't exist has sent ninjas after me!!"

Yeah I'm not seeing when the hell this will ever be useful.

It's silly. This is silly. The whole thing. Silly. Makes no sense how anyone could be so deluded into this way of thinking.

[Aries]

Keep debunking, It hurts you not me.

Edited September 20, 2010 by Aries

[Saint Nathan]

Keep debunking, It hurts you not me.

It doesn't hurt me at all.

It just hurts your argument.

[Aries]

Then explain to me what This is? what is that Pyramid and Eye? what does Novus Ordo Seclorum mean? Who do you think runs the show eh?

Tell me.

Edited September 20, 2010 by Aries

[Remy]

didn't we have this topic like last week.

Stop imagining, we don't exist.

[Aries]

didn't we have this topic like last week.

Stop imagining, we don't exist.

Your jokes are immature and not amusing at all.

Edited September 20, 2010 by Aries

[Remy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novus_ordo_seclorum

[Aries]

Clever, But Wikipedia is Wikipedia, try harder.

Bear in mind I don't expect you any of you to believe any of this. Fear causes people to bury ugly truths.

The World has always been ruled by a few people on top, like a pyramid. Now It's up to you to believe it or not.

THERE IS COUNTLESS PROOF AND EVIDENCE THEY EXIST.

Keep searching, that is if you want to, I'm not forcing you hah! I'm no one, just a human being like you.

Edited September 20, 2010 by Aries

[Remy]

You try harder, conspiricy man. You tell me wha tthe secret evil illurminati are trying trying to do by putting latin phrases on your american money, or a pyramid. What on earth can that achieve? Why would they bother? What would they have to gain?

the whole thing is so ridiculous

The World has always been ruled by a few people on top, like a pyramid. Now It's up to you to believe it or not.

so you mean like, governments?

[Tornado]

Your jokes are immature and not amusing at all.

When you throw around labels like "debunkers" as being a catch all reason for everyone disagreeing with you, all it does is expose your arguments as having no factual basis and being immature in nature.

The reason the topic last week got locked was because you went on several silly tirades saying that everyone who was disagreeing with you, no matter why they were doing so, were part of some conspiracy trying to prevent true believers from learning the truth. I believe you even attempted to claim that someone's username on the forum was some kind of "proof" that all of the people who disagreed with you were part of some kind of super elite who would personally suffer if these conspiracy theories weren't treated as cold hard fact. Believe it or not, most of the people on this forum are able to have their ideals challenged without breaking down into babbling fools.

Edited September 20, 2010 by Tornado

[Saint Nathan]

Then explain to me what This is? what is that Pyramid and Eye? what does Novus Ordo Seclorum mean? Who do you think runs the show eh?

Tell me.

Novus Ordo Seclorum translates into New Order of the Ages. It was chosen because it symbolized that America was a new change in the world, being a nation that was truly free (not to mention democracy, not exactly new, but still).

A fuckload of people think it's "New World Order" though for some reason. It's close, but the meaning is pretty much lost.

And the eye is "The All-Seeing Eye of God" and symbolizes God approving and watching over America. Essentially saying, "Yeah, the big man upstairs knows what we're doing. He's funding us."

[Aries]

Sigh I see where you guys are coming from, that's ok...In the long run lets who was right ok? Cya I'm done here.

Truth will not be silenced in the long run.

have a nice day.

Edited September 20, 2010 by Aries

[Badnik Zero]

You know ever since I was ten, I've heard presidents use the term new world order. Break it down. New, it will be something you haven't seen before. World, it will be for the world. Order, a manner of ordering things. As a sane person I thought this was just political speak for "Shit is gonna change around here".

What a fool I've been, it's obviously a coded message being spoken in nationally broadcasted speeches. Why would anyone do that. That doesn't make any sense.

Edited September 20, 2010 by Dabnikz