I BRING IT UP BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE HOW GOOD HER RESULTS ARE Every single time I talk to someone they're like "but she has no results" then I show them that stuff and they're like "whoa i had no idea"
People legit just don't know how she's doing. I'm here to e d u c a t e
>Bowser Jr >Doc >non-default Miis >Low/bottom-tier
Stop, please. Those characters are a lot better than say, Zelda. Jr and Doc are like, low-mid and a bit too good for a tourney like this. Non-default Mii Brawler is straight up high or borderline top-tier and to make him legal in a low-tier tournament is the same as allowing Wario. Non-default Mii Gunner isn't as good but she's still too strong for this.
Also, I feel inclined to mention that Ice Ninja, a Palutena player, got Top 6 at a Canadian national a couple weeks ago and someone else called Real Ice broke into Top 32 with and ended up tying with players like 6WX for 17th. Real Ice had to fight through a pool with MVD in it and he still ended up on the Winner's side of the bracket.
PK Thunder is legitimately broken offstage. If you watch top Ness players like NAKAT, FOW, or Shaky, you'll notice that every single time their opponent is offstage, they'll either dash back and use PK Thunder or jump and use PK Thunder. And guess what? They almost always hit and juggle their opponent with it while they're trying to recover tacking on 15+ damage in the process or just gimp them with it outright.
PK Fire on the other hand is only slightly above average. It does a lot of damage, yes, but it has high, reactable startup and punishable endlag. If you block it you have more than enough time to hit him with a Smash attack. It's really not that good and it doesn't warrant a nerf.
I really don't think so. Bowser can do well against most characters but the important ones, the high/top-tiers, body him so hard I can't help but feel he's bottom 10. Bowser's main, critical flaws are:
1. He's huge and heavy making him extremely easy to combo 2. His airspeed is low and has literally NO landing options so he gets juggled like a freakin' hacky-sack 3. His recovery is extremely slow and easy to gimp 4. His neutral is awful because ALL of his approach options are super-unsafe.
Now, against most characters this isn't much of a problem, but when you consider that EVERYONE in the Top 15 EXCEL at comboing, juggling, edgeguarding, and are DOMINANT in neutral and advantage. Points 3 and 4 mean that he's practically unplayable when he's at a disadvantage, so whenever a top-tier touches him he's pretty much dead already unless they mess up which shouldn't be happening at a high-level. Their neutral being great also makes it hard for him to just land a hit, which is what he needs to do to stand a chance against anyone in the roster. Rage is great for Bowser but it doesn't mean anything if he's not able to use it, and he can't against top-tiers half the time.
Bowser just... doesn't have much going for him. He isn't even pulling in any results at this time, either. I don't see him being better than more than 10 characters right now, sadly.
There's a lot wrong with that tier-list, honestly. Kirby is too high without enough results to show for it, Lucas shouldn't be above Roy, Greninja should be in Tier 4, Falco should be middle Tier 6 at BEST, Bowser, Jigglypuff, and Default Mii Brawler should be in tier 8, etc. I also feel that Palutena should be a lot higher. She has better results in-tournament than the characters in Tier 7 and most in Tier 6 (especially Doc, Bowser, Charizard, and Jigglypuff), she doesn't deserve to be so low.