It is not their job to agree with Obama at all. It is Obama's job to ensure the power of Presidency and he has failed at that. When it comes to international policy, he is,by far, one of the best Presidents we've ever had and is only behind Nixon and FDR. Domestic policy, however, he makes Jimmy Carter look like a saint. I've mentioned it before. He should have realized from the get-go that these people want him to fail and should have acted accordingly. There was never any negotiating with them and there was never any 'bi-partisanship.' He should have been mean, aggressive, and demanding. Instead of downplaying for the fear of scaring too many people into just how bad the economy was in 2009, he should have put more money in the Stimulus. Too late for that now.
I don't even think that's true, honestly. I legitimately think if he went at it like Clinton did from the very beginning, he could have pulled it off.
I mean, Republicans during Clinton's presidency hated him so much that they tried to get him impeached
, and he still managed to get a lot of the stuff done that he wanted basically just by working with them. He let them know what he was going to stand firm on and what he was willing to compromise on in advance, and they worked through that and generally just made the government a relatively trustworthy place for the populace. And he was good enough at it that they managed to get most of what he wanted done in his
Reagan had the benefit of being popular enough that Congress usually didn't dare defy him, but when they did he basically went "Its the Democrat's fault that we can't do 'Thing X', but fuck them we're doing it anyways.
" Hell, even Bush, for all of his general incompetence, seemed to be able to pull that off for the first term of his presidency (and even though 2005 is when the cards came tumbling down he probably could have kept it up if he wanted to, but it always seemed to me that after he got reelected he just stopped caring about anything).
Obama's doing the first part of what Reagan did (the blame game), and he's alluding
to the second bit (the "fuck those guys I'm doing what's right" part), but he's not actually doing
it; and that makes him look pretty worthless in my opinion. I don't agree with most of the things he's trying to do, but it seems to me that him not even putting much effort into actually getting them done is arguably even worse for the country. Flawed policies can be changed/repealed, but I think the past year or so has shaken the public's not-particularly-strong-in-the-first-place faith in government pretty badly.
And I also agree that its probably too late for Obama to do anything about it now, because now he doesn't have the support to pull it off (which he probably
did in 2010 when Republicans first took control of the legislature) and now Republicans know that he won't (and probably can't anymore) force the issue so they don't have to bother paying lip service to him. I'm actually sort of curious how post-2012 is going to look, because no matter how Congress is set up after that I can't imagine Obama (if he wins, which depends entirely on how quickly the GOP can get muzzles bolted to Palin and Bachman's faces) is going to be treated as anything but a welcome mat by the legislature.
There is one thing that Reagan and Clinton didn't have to deal with. I hate to pull this, but it is starting to look like that more every day.
I have to wonder how much of a role those idiots actually play, though. I mean, obviously that sentiment exists, but when one of them actually expresses it (or even implies it), they are immediately taken out at the knees like they were hit with a bat. Even true slimeballs like Savage usually don't hesitate to distance themselves from guys who gaffe that badly.
BUSH TAX CUT EXTENSION. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.
Every time I think about it, it is mind blowing.
And pairing that with spending increases that the country can't support, which was another fun little thing Bush liked to do too often (though Bush's were generally of a different type). You can do one or the other without that much trouble, but you can't
And for some comedy:
At one point, George W. Bush had an exceptionally high approval rating of 90%(higher than any president in history) after he lied about the reason to invade Iraq, dished out wealthfare like candy, and had dick Cheney shoot a dude in a face.
This alone shows how fickle the American populace is.
Say what you will about Bush, but at the very least Cheney was much more fun as a VP than Biden is. Shooting guys in the face. Looked and generally acted like The Penguin as portrayed by Burgess Meredith. Possibly a Sith lord. Probably of the living dead. Good times.
All Biden does is put everyone (including himself, it sometimes seems) to sleep.
Edited by Tornado, 20 August 2011 - 10:01 PM.