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[Joshua]

No. This is unconstitutional and it undermines the power of the Supreme Court. An act cannot supersede the powers of the court as demonstrated in the first landmark case of the Supreme Court and of this country, Marbury v. Madison. So if they want to reverse the decision of Roe v. Wade, they can either wait until the Supreme Court reverses the decision in a similar and subsequent case or pass an amendment(good fucking luck on this one).

Republicans and the Personhood USA organization they are representing have already circumvented this decision with anti-abortion laws passed in closed doors in Virginia, and about to be passed in Oklahoma and Iowa. And it's not implausible to think they'll try to spread it to other states.

So unless this action calls on the 10th Amendment for grounds for its passing so that it can't be challenged by Roe v. Wade by claiming states's rights or something, or for some other legal reason, it looks like Roe V. Wade is being disregarded.

Edited by Professor Westwood V, 17 February 2012 - 06:32 PM.

[turbojet]

Republicans and the Personhood USA organization they are representing have already circumvented this decision with anti-abortion laws passed in closed doors in Virginia, and about to be passed in Oklahoma and Iowa. And it's not implausible to think they'll try to spread it to other states.

So unless this action calls on the 10th Amendment for grounds for its passing so that it can't be challenged by Roe v. Wade by claiming states's rights or something, or for some other legal reason, it looks like Roe V. Wade is being disregarded.

10th Amendment.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, not prohibited by it to the Staes, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Article VI
"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the Land."

In other words, no Act can overturn a Supreme Court decision because when they make a decision it is the law of the land. If the Congress passed such a law, they could allow the states to go back to de jure segregation and disregard what it says in Brown v. Board. So no. They can fuck right off. If they can't pass it properly than they can pass it all.

Edited by turbojet, 17 February 2012 - 07:00 PM.

[Tornado]

No. This is unconstitutional and it undermines the power of the Supreme Court. An act cannot supersede the powers of the court as demonstrated in the first landmark case of the Supreme Court and of this country, Marbury v. Madison.

Congress does this all the time. See all of the Democrat Senators who shit chickens and spent the next year putting together DISCLOSE in an attempt to make Citizens United vs. FEC meaningless by working around it.

Edited by Gilda, 17 February 2012 - 06:59 PM.

[turbojet]

Congress does this all the time. See all of the Democrat Senators who shit chickens and spent the next year putting together DISCLOSE in an attempt to make Citizens United vs. FEC meaningless by working around it.

Does anybody read the Constitution?

[Tornado]

Does anybody read the Constitution?

Of course not.


If they did that, then your Ted Stevens and your Harry Reids wouldn't be able to do whatever they wanted, at which point what's the point of being a Senator?

[Patticus]

Poor Zach Braff, he's related to Mitt Romney. XD

https://twitter.com/#!/zachbraff/status/175207892918607872

Spoiler

Also, the Michigan Republican Party changed the rules on delegate allocation to give Romney a narrow win. They're supposed to be awarded by congressional district, with 2 floating delegates assigned proportionately by the statewide vote. The vote was split 41-38, but the committee voted to give them both to R-money, making the final count 16-14 in his favour, instead of the 15-15 draw it should have been. Underhanded bastards!

[Tornado]

Doesn't really make any difference. If the Democrats did it, sure; but it's a drop in the pan. And since Republicans seem absolutely giddy at the chance of tearing Romney down now, I don't see any conspiracy, if that is what you are implying (which I'm aware I might have misread).

Edited by Tornado, 02 March 2012 - 05:12 PM.

[turbojet]

If this leads to a Brokered Convention, they might as well just not even bother with the election because primaries don't usually take this long which indicates that the conservatives hate all of the main candidates.

[Mono]

I hope it goes into a Brokered Convention. Anything to screw up the GOP is okay with me.

[Patticus]

If this leads to a Brokered Convention, they might as well just not even bother with the election because primaries don't usually take this long which indicates that the conservatives hate all of the main candidates.

Well, they elected them, so they can't say it isn't their fault...

[Patticus]

So Rick Santorum wants to 'unmarry' gays if he gets elected:

http://www.advocate...._Gay_Marriages/

Santorum
As defined by sex coulumnist Dan Savage, the mixture of lube and feces that is sometimes a side result of anal intercourse.

(From: Sen. Rick Sanctorum: R-Pensylvania)
Baby, we got santorum all over the sheets again....


What a fucking tool. Way to force your beliefs over everybody, directly contravening your own supposedly beloved constitution, Sanitorium... Please let sense prevail this fall.

[K.T.E.]

I identify myself as a Libertarian Republican. I believe in socially liberal policies (gay marriage and marijuana legalization is fine, although I am a straight, non-drug using male) but fiscally conservative measures (small government.) I also think it's unfair how Republicans can be viewed as backward-thinking, christian extremist morons (although certain candidates are not helping the case.) I think too many far-left liberals are basing their judgement on conservatives off of the imbecile Rick Perry, which is just as bad as Red state hicks clamoring over Obama's certain failures. Unlike what some members are saying in this topic, both parties have distinguished and sophisticated candidates (although the G.O.P. is currently lacking), and neither party is less American than the other.

[Mono]

So Rick Santorum wants to 'unmarry' gays if he gets elected:

http://www.advocate...._Gay_Marriages/

Santorum
As defined by sex coulumnist Dan Savage, the mixture of lube and feces that is sometimes a side result of anal intercourse.

(From: Sen. Rick Sanctorum: R-Pensylvania)
Baby, we got santorum all over the sheets again....


What a fucking tool. Way to force your beliefs over everybody, directly contravening your own supposedly beloved constitution, Sanitorium... Please let sense prevail this fall.

I wouldn't worry about Santorum. Come super tuesday, or whatevert the fuck they call it, he's finished.

[Spooky Mulder]

So Rick Santorum wants to 'unmarry' gays if he gets elected:

http://www.advocate...._Gay_Marriages/

Santorum
As defined by sex coulumnist Dan Savage, the mixture of lube and feces that is sometimes a side result of anal intercourse.

(From: Sen. Rick Sanctorum: R-Pensylvania)
Baby, we got santorum all over the sheets again....


What a fucking tool. Way to force your beliefs over everybody, directly contravening your own supposedly beloved constitution, Sanitorium... Please let sense prevail this fall.

Nothing new here. He's a religious nut, and he thinks that marriage isn't a right.

I'm not all that concerned by Santorum or his proposal. This man will never ever EVER be president of this country; and even if he was, there's 0 chance of ratifying a Constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. Conservatives can whine all they want, but the tide has turned. The majority of Americans now support gay marriage, and support is only going to increase.

I'm confident that one day in my lifetime, I'll be able to get married wherever I want in my country and there won't be a single fucking thing men like Rick Santorum can do about it.

[Emmett L. Brown]

That picture of a homecoming soldier kissing his male partner hit the news over here, too. With the Don't Ask, Don't Tell rule finally buried with overwhelming American public support I'm thrilled to welcome the United States to the twenty-first century, with outdated relics like Santorum safely left behind.

[Joshua]

I find this hilariously ironic.

Also, Santorum is visiting the major cities in my state today, according to the Facebook page. Seeing the Oklahoman support for his recent updates killed me inside.

[ChaosSupremeSonîc]

That picture of a homecoming soldier kissing his male partner hit the news over here, too. With the Don't Ask, Don't Tell rule finally buried with overwhelming American public support I'm thrilled to welcome the United States to the twenty-first century, with outdated relics like Santorum safely left behind.

Eh, don't open those arms just yet. The political arena is still volatile, so we have a long way to go with all of this.

[Mono]

I find this hilariously ironic.

Also, Santorum is visiting the major cities in my state today, according to the Facebook page. Seeing the Oklahoman support for his recent updates killed me inside.

He just wants to control women and gays.

Edited by Jay Rockman, 05 March 2012 - 02:02 AM.

[Metal Gear (sting)RAY]

I envy Jon Stewart; it's people like this that makes his job do itself.

[Mono]

I envy Jon Stewart; it's people like this that makes his job do itself.

I remember Santorum on The Daily Show once. Stewart really kicked his ass.