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[Inferno]

Spiderman's cracking jokes!? Thank. Fucking. Christ. One (of many) things that really ended up irritating me about the Raimi films is that not once did Spiderman make a single joke at his foes.

"I guess you haven't heard- I'm the sheriff around these parts!" -Spiderman 3.

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I'll be in the corner.

[Carbo]

Spider-Man 3 was the only movie in the series that actually tried to bring out the snarky side of him though, and that was because at that time he was filled up with the massive ego the townspeople had bestowed upon him, along with him actually getting a control of his life.

The problem with bringing that up as an example is that Maguire can't convey any emotion other than wangst and whine, and trying to be witty or snarky in any way makes him look like a pretentious douchebag.

Also as far as I'm concerned Spider-Man 3 is the result of an inconsistent anomaly within the space time continuum caused by a quantum collapse that never actually happened.

[EXshad]

Overall, I think it's looking great. Originally, I was really hoping they would do what The Incredible Hulk movie did; simultaneously serving as a reboot and a sequel, by rebooting the cast, crew, etc., but by moving the story of Peter Parker firmly forward.

However, once I saw the trailer, my fears went away. It looks like a very strong reboot with numerous differences from the original trilogy. Plus, it's loyalty to the comics looks to be much stronger, and I applaud that. And of course, it looks like they're trying to utilize villains we didn't see in the original trilogy, as we're getting the Lizard here. They're doing a lot right with it so far.

Also, I thought Tobey McGuire was a good Peter Parker.. I can't really justify why, he just had a certain charisma, I suppose. That said, I STILL think Andrew Garfield both looks more the part and just in general seems the part. However, I could definitely feel like his performance is kinda referencing Tobey's in some aspects, like the part where he was whispering, "I gotta stop him, 'cause I created him," or when he was swinging through the air.

Lastly, I kinda like this idea of rebooting a comic book movie because the comic books themselves have numerous continuties, with different takes on Spider-Man and the characters surrounding him. So, in that sense, this movie is being incredibly faithful

Edited by EXshad, 11 February 2012 - 07:52 PM.

[turbojet]

"I guess you haven't heard- I'm the sheriff around these parts!" -Spiderman 3.

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I'll be in the corner.

And that fails in comparison to these.

[Discoid]

That last one was freaking gold. Not the answer I was expecting. xD

[Balding Spider]

"I guess you haven't heard- I'm the sheriff around these parts!" -Spiderman 3.

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I'll be in the corner.

Yeah some other users on corrected me on this after I praised the new Spider-man for making jokes. Spidey did actually happen to make jokes in Raimis version but scarcely.

Edit: I came across two new clear shots of The Lizard.

Edited by Balding Spider, 11 February 2012 - 07:26 PM.

[Discoid]

Yeah some other users on corrected me on this after I praised the new Spider-man for making jokes. Spidey did actually happen to make jokes in Raimis version but scarcely.

He was pretty funny in the cage match against Bonesaw (that was the wrestler guy's name, right?), but he almost completely stopped acting like Spider-Man once he became Spider-Man. The few attempts he made at being funny really weren't funny, either.

[Patticus]

I came across two new clear shots of The Lizard.

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Awful. The hell are they thinking?

[PeanutButterDimond]

I like how the lizard looks. He reminds me of a monster from a horror film as well as Ditko's rendition of him.

[turbojet]

For reference, Patticus, this is how the Steve Ditko rendition looked.

[Balding Spider]

I'm actually fine for the most part with the design of The Lizard, especially since Lizards appearance seems to often vary. My only real beef is that he isn't sporting his iconic torn lab coat.

And here are a few images from the films viral promotion. The rest can be viewed here: http://www.superhero...ral-hunt-begins

[Ashley Marsh]

New Spiderman looks like Andy Murray... I cannot unsee that. I don't know anything about Spiderman, does he like tennis?

[Johnny Boy]

I think the lizards design is growing on me now.

[Toby Barrett]

I still can't really get behind anything I've seen of this, it still looks like Twilight: Web of Spider-Man.

[Black Mamba]

I still can't really get behind anything I've seen of this, it still looks like Twilight: Web of Spider-Man.

wut



Nothing in this fucking movie looks emo or Twilight, for the last fucking time.


Hell the complete Raimi trilogy was more emo than the entirety of the new trailer.

[turbojet]

I still can't really get behind anything I've seen of this, it still looks like Twilight: Web of Spider-Man.

I don't get it.

Why? Because it has a younger representative cast? I'm sorry, but Spider-man was the original kid superhero so even though Garfield is 28 and looks like he is a teen(Although Macquire was 27 when he was cast and he looked like he was 27), he is supposed to live a life of a normal high school teenager. In other words, it wouldn't be Spider-man if he wasn't a kid first. Miles Morales shown this. Ultimate Spider-man perfected it. Spectacular Spider-man displayed the perfection.

Because there is romance? I, again, apologize, but what do you think this is? Batman? Spider-man is one of the few superheroes who have something resembling a normal romance life. Spider-man without romance isn't Spider-man at all. Spider-man isn't some brooding,chastened superhero who is too afraid to fall in love with another individual because he is too caught up in his super hero life to look for women. That is something that I loved about him. There is someone with a true life underneath that mask. Unlike Batman, everybody understands Peter because there is a life underneath that mask. No one gives a shit about Bruce Wayne. Hell, Bruce Wayne doesn't give a shit about Bruce Wayne because he completely dissociates himself from who he feels he really is, Batman. Spider-man/Peter Parker is completely different. He loves in and out the mask. He wants to marry and have a family and in the comic universe, has.

What makes Spider-man's romantic life anything but Twilight, isn't because he gets pretty girls and it becomes some drawn out shallow romance, but how they interact with him in his alias as Spider-man. Gwen Stacey has a dad that hates Spider-man and she begins to hate him herself as she thought Spider-man killed her dad. Black Cat loved Spider-man and constantly asks him to ditch the mundane life as Peter Parker. Mary Jane Watson who pretty much exemplified everything that had to do with a normal romantic life as possible since she not only supported everything Peter was doing, but was completely devoted to him and wished that he would stop being Peter Parker so damn much. All of this "romance," is affected by the duality of him being both Peter Parker and Spider-man which is completely necessary to show. And I love how they started with Gwen Stacey instead of Mary Jane, again, showing that if there is a sequel which there probably will be, we will get some actual tangible scenes involving love and lost unlike the Raimi movies where they casted Mary Jane as a frigid bitch(RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and really did nothing to convey anything real about the romance, upside down kiss be damned.

And finally, Twilight will never have moments when two teenagers are wondering if they should have sex with each other and then decide to put off until marriage that doesn't feel forced and convey the message that having sex before marriage is wrong like so.


So if there isn't romance in Spider-man, it ain't Spider-man. So I expect teenage romance in my Spider-man movie.

Edited by turbojet, 12 February 2012 - 06:05 PM.

[PeanutButterDimond]

I still can't really get behind anything I've seen of this, it still looks like Twilight: Web of Spider-Man.

Please don't compare this Spider-Man film to Twilight. Despite them saying they were trying to appeal to the Twilight audience when it was first announced, it really doesn't look anything like Twilight.

It looks like a deconstruction of the Superhero genre in which the main character deals with everyday [problems such as bills, romance, family and friends while also dealing with the irresponsibility of being a super hero. You know, like the ASM comic, Utimate comics, Raimi trilogy, the ninties Spider-Man cartoon, the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon and pretty much any version of Spiderman was, except doing it in it's own way.

Also what turbojet said. It's not Spider-Man without regular life stuff like romance.

Edited by PeanutButterDimond, 12 February 2012 - 06:19 PM.

[Balding Spider]

I still can't really get behind anything I've seen of this, it still looks like Twilight: Web of Spider-Man.

Elaborate for gods sake. Why does it look like Twilight? What makes it look like Twilight?

Edited by Balding Spider, 12 February 2012 - 06:18 PM.

[goku262002]

See Watchmen, The Dark Knight Rises, The Amazing Spider-Man and The Avengers in All Their Toy Fair 2012 Glory (Kotaku)

Some nice Spider-man busts there.

[Eternal Xtreme]

So if there isn't romance in Spider-man, it ain't Spider-man. So I expect teenage romance in my Spider-man movie.

To be honest...My brain exploded when I read that strip.

I MUST GET BACK INTO SPIDER-MAN comics!