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[Protagoras]

Two words for you: Player Two.

I don't believe that exactly compensates for the fact that Sonic and Tails have decipherable mechanics that make them both unique in their own ways, I'm content with Sonic 4 Episode 2 taking the Co op platformer path that many others have been taking lately, but I'm capable of seeing why people are disappointed.

[HUNTER297]

Sola Sonica timeline:

2008- So we give you a brawl gameplay and high speed Sonic action. Can you play as Knuckles in Brawl? Haha no we'll give you this Sonic the Werehog

2010: We give you 2P mode. Can you play as Tails? Hahahahahahahahaa!!!! Of course not. Who wants to play as this loser. Play as Sonic Clone instead. Its the same? No! ITS RED!

2011: Want some other characters? All right! Classic Sonic for ya!

2012: In Sonic 4 where you co-op with Tails we will give you a lock-on feature where you can play with other character.... You think its Sonic? Oh you're so silly. We are more original than that! Its METAL Sonic!!!

So yeah.

[Hyper-Shan]

I guess it came to the point that people will complain about free stuff now.. I need to stop coming here often.

[Azure Yakuzu]

Sola Sonica timeline:

2008- So we give you a brawl gameplay and high speed Sonic action. Can you play as Knuckles in Brawl? Haha no we'll give you this Sonic the Werehog

2010: We give you 2P mode. Can you play as Tails? Hahahahahahahahaa!!!! Of course not. Who wants to play as this loser. Play as Sonic Clone instead. Its the same? No! ITS RED!

2011: Want some other characters? All right! Classic Sonic for ya!

2012: In Sonic 4 where you co-op with Tails we will give you a lock-on feature where you can play with other character.... You think its Sonic? Oh you're so silly. We are more original than that! Its METAL Sonic!!!

So yeah.

..Way to completely steal my post.

I guess it came to the point that people will complain about free stuff now.. I need to stop coming here often.

..Because its not like are complaints are warranted or anything, nope, we just like to complain for the sake of it.

[Hyper-Shan]

Sola Sonica timeline:

2008- So we give you a brawl gameplay and high speed Sonic action. Can you play as Knuckles in Brawl? Haha no we'll give you this Sonic the Werehog

2010: We give you 2P mode. Can you play as Tails? Hahahahahahahahaa!!!! Of course not. Who wants to play as this loser. Play as Sonic Clone instead. Its the same? No! ITS RED!

2011: Want some other characters? All right! Classic Sonic for ya!

2012: In Sonic 4 where you co-op with Tails we will give you a lock-on feature where you can play with other character.... You think its Sonic? Oh you're so silly. We are more original than that! Its METAL Sonic!!!

So yeah.

S&tBK had Knuckles, Blaze, & Shadow (in their alternate names however) playable in certain areas as optional characters.

[Kamicciolo]

'sides, since SEGA actually went out of their way to tie things between Sonic 4 and Sonic CD by giving free content (including and may not be limited to new playable character who looks like he'll have tricks of his own [you know, like how Sonic can HA, Tails can fly and Knuckles can go through and climb walls!], backwards compatibility like S&K and four exclusive levels), then shouldn't we at the least feel grateful? Nobody obligated them to actually do Episode Metal in the first place, much less for free!

I don't think they're actually gonna be new levels, I think the "four exclusive levels" bit is just referring to Metal Sonic also being able to play through the Episode 1 levels. I'd love for that to be untrue, but if there were really four additional levels then why wouldn't Sonic and Tails be able to play them?

Still, I'm happy to see Metal Sonic as a playable, though it appears that continuity is a bit screwy once again, since Eggman is shown reviving Modern Metal :V. I do hope though that Metal's prominence here means that beyond Sonic 4 he starts getting used a bit more.

[Generations (Chaos Warp)]

Sola Sonica timeline:

2008- So we give you a brawl gameplay and high speed Sonic action. Can you play as Knuckles in Brawl? Haha no we'll give you this Sonic the Werehog

2010: We give you 2P mode. Can you play as Tails? Hahahahahahahahaa!!!! Of course not. Who wants to play as this loser. Play as Sonic Clone instead. Its the same? No! ITS RED!

2011: Want some other characters? All right! Classic Sonic for ya!

2012: In Sonic 4 where you co-op with Tails we will give you a lock-on feature where you can play with other character.... You think its Sonic? Oh you're so silly. We are more original than that! Its METAL Sonic!!!

So yeah.

To be fair, Metal is his own character, while the Werehog, Robo-Sonics and Classic Sonic are different forms of Sonic.

[Tmsp]

Sooo, I just got here now.
Can we play as Metal Sonic on Episode II naturally or do we need the two games to "unlock" it?

[elementofchaos]

This proves that Metal Sonic is overrated as hell nowdays. I liked him but now I began to dislike him because of people who think of him as a freaking messiah (see Generations: Metal Reveal: People- "Hell yeah back to the good SEGA!" and Shadow and Silver reveal:"BAWW SHITTY FRIENDS!") that just pisses me off.

So, when Metal Sonic is rarely seen (in the main series anyway) and is surprisingly popular among fans, he's cool and not at all overrated. But when he's actually used in two main series games and is even playable in one, he's overrated just because fans are happy he's actually getting appearances outside spin-offs.

I don't get it. :/

Anyway, Tails not being playable is pretty disappointing. The Sola Sonica thing we've been through the past few years has just gotten more and more ridiculous...but considering how much reviewers bash any character that isn't Sonic and Eggman, I can't say I'm surprised.

[ArtFenix]

Just Oh! MY! GOD!
Playable METAL FUCKING SONIC! ANd these levels!
All is forgiven, Sega!

[Azure Yakuzu]

To be fair, Metal is his own character, while the Werehog, Robo-Sonics and Classic Sonic are different forms of Sonic.

Yes, but Metal is based on Sonic therefore, its essentially playing as Sonic, just a knockoff of him.



I'm sorry, I might change my mind later, but I refuse to pay $30 just to play as Sonic and Not Sonic.

[Barry the Nomad]

Thinking about it, Episode Metal is Metal's own game. Tails had a few, Knuckles had one, Shadow had one, now Metal gets one. I never thought I'd see the day when Metal gets a spin-off.

[Balding Spider]

You know oddly enough I'm not bothered by Metal Sonic being playable at all. Looking back on it we probably should've realized that between Metal and Tails Metal was most likely to be a playable character solo out of the two. I mean he now has the homing attack, and we all know it's not possible to beat this game without the homing attack.

[Sean]

Here's my last post elaborated on, then.

I think it's stupid that they're trying to play this up to be the lock-on that many people have been asking for, when it, er, isn't. S3&K's defining feature about lock-on was playing both games back-to-back and allowing each game's exclusive character to be playable in another. I'm aware that episode 1 really has nothing to offer in the latter's department, but Metal's probably not even going to be playable in episode 2 due to the lack of partner. It feels less like lock-on and more like an old save bonus. Which is fine, but the way Ken puts it makes the feature seem rather misguided.

In all honesty I actually think playable Metal Sonic is pretty cool, but it's not what I would expect an S3&K-lock-on to entail. So the feature itself isn't stupid, just what I was hearing from Ken's mouth. In the end it's not a big deal to me when it comes to the game itself, but watching that video was painful nonetheless.

[Shadzter]

Here's my last post elaborated on, then.

I think it's stupid that they're trying to play this up to be the lock-on that many people have been asking for, when it, er, isn't. S3&K's defining feature about lock-on was playing both games back-to-back and allowing each game's exclusive character to be playable in another. I'm aware that episode 1 really has nothing to offer in the latter's department, but Metal's probably not even going to be playable in episode 2 due to the lack of partner. It feels less like lock-on and more like an old save bonus. Which is fine, but the way Ken puts it makes the feature seem rather misguided.

In all honesty I actually think playable Metal Sonic is pretty cool, but it's not what I would expect an S3&K-lock-on to entail. So the feature itself isn't stupid, just what I was hearing from Ken's mouth. In the end it's not a big deal to me when it comes to the game itself, but watching that video was painful nonetheless.

I was just thinking of how to word my feelings about this and you've summed it up nicely. I'm fine with playable Metal Sonic, but I'd rather have playable Tails or both Tails and Metal Sonic. I'm also pretty disappointed that the sand level looks too much like a combination of Sandopolis Zone and Oil Ocean Zone. There are still too many unnecessary boosters everywhere, too.

Also, I can see Wii owners of Episode 1 being pissed that they'll have to buy Episode 1 again as well as Episode 2 to get this extra content.

[Hogfather]

Also, I can see Wii owners of Episode 1 being pissed that they'll have to buy Episode 1 again as well as Episode 2 to get this extra content.

Wouldn't that have happened anyway? Regardless as to what character it involved?

[Solly]

The point of having Metal playable instead of Tails is that the Metal Sonic story is meant to be canon, showing his revival and the events leading up to Episode 2. It's a supplementary side-story. Hell, they're trying to go back and make Episode 1 feel more complete.

And I happen to like Metal Sonic, so this works for me. Granted I like Tails more and I would've liked to see him, but this was an unexpected surprise, so I'm not going to sit here and bitch about how free additional content to an old game doesn't meet my standards.

..Because its not like are complaints are warranted or anything, nope, we just like to complain for the sake of it.

People do have valid complaints, but it's hard to deny that some people simply have a hateboner for this game.

[VizardJeffhog]

Wouldn't that have happened anyway? Regardless as to what character it involved?

I think Shadzter just meant that in general.

[Blue Blood]

What's the bet that Metal Sonic isn't anything more than a Sonic skin?

Edited by Blue Blood, 05 April 2012 - 07:58 PM.

[Shadzter]

Wouldn't that have happened anyway? Regardless as to what character it involved?

Yes, it was going to happen anyway if lock-on content was announced. I'm just saying that I can see them being pissed now it's actually been shown off.