Sonic Adventure 2 - over rated or under rated?
Posted 24 March 2012 - 02:19 PM
i can even find some people who share the same opinion like whether it is good or bad but argue with each other about there reasons why they think its good or bad even though there potently agreeing with each other
I love it not only is it one of my favorite Sonic game it is one of my favorite game in general
what do you think,
is Sonic Adventure 2 over rated or under rated?
Posted 24 March 2012 - 02:22 PM
Edited by Chaos Warp, 24 March 2012 - 02:22 PM.
Posted 24 March 2012 - 02:24 PM
I'd say it's over-rated in the sense that some people call it one of the best games ever made, when in reality it's only really one third of a brilliant game, with one third being debatable and the other third being pretty terrible. And yet what it does do right, it does very well... so I'm torn.
Posted 24 March 2012 - 02:34 PM
Suffice it to say good stuff is good, but bad stuff is terrible, there is more bad stuff than good stuff, thus logically it is a bad game. A lot of people argue that it is an amazing game, perhaps even the best 3D (or laughably the best Sonic game period) Sonic game ever made. I disagree, and think that it is at the very least about as bad as Unleashed as an all-round game, honestly though I find it to be much worse.
Story is good, but that's pointless if the game is so bad you can't be bothered to finish it, so you don't even see the whole plot, unless via Youtube.
Edited by Scar, 24 March 2012 - 02:52 PM.
Posted 24 March 2012 - 02:51 PM
While the graphics looked incredible for the time they haven't aged well, voice actors are horrible, multiple variations of gameplay are confusing and randomly pulled out of nowhere, and for Adventure 1 just getting to the levels can be a challenge since you have to explore those darned Adventure Fields.
Since we're talking specifically about Adventure 2 though...
It's not that horrible aside from the listed above. In fact, it's a good game. I just don't like it as much as others do, personally. I think that's just nostalgia goggles covering up alot of the obvious flaws. But then again, maybe I'm wrong.
Posted 24 March 2012 - 02:52 PM
Posted 24 March 2012 - 02:57 PM
Is this going to turn into a why Sa2 sucks topic?
i love that game and i would hate to start that
i just wanted opinions not hateful rages.
Posted 24 March 2012 - 03:10 PM
Posted 24 March 2012 - 03:15 PM
Posted 24 March 2012 - 03:19 PM
Edited by Shaggy Rogers, 24 March 2012 - 03:23 PM.
Posted 24 March 2012 - 03:28 PM
It depends on what you're looking for.
If you want a straight-up arcade-like Sonic game with minimal story and solid gameplay mechanics that harken back to the Genesis days with no sidetracking genres like 3rd person shooters or treasure hunting missions, then no, this game isn't for you, and to you it's an overrated game. The Sonic and Shadow levels can be fun, but it might not be worth if you don't want to power through the other character's levels (which are not optional) or to sit through all the cutscenes just to know why Sonic suddenly has 8 minutes to finish Green Forest.
However, if you want a generally solid Soinc game that features a fairly cohesive story (especially for its time) some great visuals, a diverse plate of gameplay options and genuinely good gameplay regardless if it's Sonic or not, then this game might in fact be underrated to you. Don't laugh, there are people (including myself) who enjoy Sonic Adventure and it's sequel and find Eggman and Knuckles' gameplay to be pretty darn fun on its own merits. The story itself is surprisingly deep and complex, and is certainly not beyond treating its audience maturely with dark overtones involving death, vengeance and moral ambiguity. And even so, Sonic is still his lovable and cocky self, Tails is cautiously confident and analytical about everything, Knuckles is forward thinking and focused on his own path, Shadow is, suprisingly, not angsty or depressed, but made out to be a very interesting character, Rouge's reveal as a secret government spy was pretty cool, as was her development from being purely in it for the jewels into being sympathetic towards Shadow, and the fleshing out of Eggman's goals and past at the end of the game was a very interesting moment, showing him in a rather sympathetic light and more than just a simple world-conquering villain. If you want a game that does all that, then I think it's certainly underrated around here.
But that being said, not everyone wants complex stories and a platter of game generes that diverge from the core Sonic mechanics. That's totally fine, and these people generally respect those who do, so it's all good... there's really no controversy about it. If you like it, you like it. If not, then you don't. The game can't be simply overrated or underrated on principles that are up to the interpretation of the player.
Now if the game was a glitchy mess with an overly dark, convoluted and broken plot... then yeah, it would probably overrated.
Edited by Indigo Rush, 11 April 2012 - 03:34 PM.
Posted 24 March 2012 - 03:32 PM
Posted 24 March 2012 - 03:35 PM
However, we did get City Escape, Crazy Gadget and Final Rush, definite high points in the series since it went 3D with a great gravity switch gimmick in CG, bounce bracelet platforming in final rush and trick system in CE. Also rail grinding was fun in this game especially when it was optional and not forced on you like in City Escape and because it required player input. Sonic controlled great, the enemies provided a legitimate challenge because the homing attack was not overpowered and speed running was fun too because there was no insane boost speeds so you relied more on skill rather than luck and memorization for the A ranks. The spin dash could also be used cleverly to gain a small burst of speed (not insane like the boost) which could then be used to extend jump distance giving you the option to jump over hazardous or time consuming segments.
Posted 24 March 2012 - 03:40 PM
Many posts here will say SA2 is massively overrated because only 1/3rd of the game was actually good, the controls were bad, and was linear.
Then someone like me will come in here and say SA2 is their favorite game because although the Speed sections were the best parts, they actually like the Mech and Treasure hunting sections and found them fun to play. To me, while the controls were unrealistic they allowed for me to control Sonic and company exactly how I wanted, which is unlike every other Sonic game after it. There's also the emphasis on story, but hardly anyone dislikes SA2's story so I won't go there.
The reason why people call it the best 3D Sonic game is because every other Sonic game after it is downright terrible, except the very recent additions of Sonic Colors and Generations. If Colors and Generations non-existent, I would agree with those people who call it the best 3D Sonic game, and even then, Colors and Generations has still failed to give me the immersion and catharsis that SA2 did.
I'll answer the question though: Is SA2 overrated? It is now. But for a long time, it wasn't.
Posted 24 March 2012 - 03:56 PM
But when it comes to just the bare-bones experience, the story mode, yes, it's overrated. The Sonic/ Shadow levels, while having slightly improved control over SA1, definitely seemed to be designed with less creativity or fun areas to explore. The treasure hunting levels were way too big and/or complicated for the most part (SCREW YOU, AQUATIC MINE), the radar system was nerfed, and the hint boxes were just trolls; though, to be honest, I don't hate these levels as much as most people. Then there are the mech stages, which, while fun, feel the least like a Sonic experience. They're sluggish, awkward, and feel like a step down from E-102's SA1 stages.
The core gameplay doesn't have its priorities straight, which is why I think the game is overrated. But even so, I think it's the most care that a 3D Sonic game has been handled with - the controls worked for the most part, they felt natural, and they crammed in a ton of optional extra content. It's attention to the little things that I think turn a good game into a great one. SA2 isn't amazing, nor is it the best Sonic game, but it's still a very enjoyable game.
Posted 24 March 2012 - 03:57 PM
Posted 24 March 2012 - 04:05 PM
Posted 24 March 2012 - 04:06 PM
i love that game and i would hate to start that
i just wanted opinions not hateful rages.
That's the thing though, everyone has a completely different view of the game; some think Sa2 is the last good Sonic game, and praise it for its diverse(if flawed) gameplay, and its story which pushed the bar for this series, while others think it doesn't deserve the massive praise it gets and that playing 2/3 of the game not as the main character is a waste.
Basically, its both overrated and underrated, the best thing to agree on would be to just say its contested and leave it at that.
Edited by Shadic Claus, 24 March 2012 - 04:07 PM.
Posted 24 March 2012 - 04:26 PM
is it fun? yes, it's still fun regardless.
is it the best adventure game? no, I loved the fact I can be different characters in the first one for their unique game style play through. If sonic is going to have friends then I want to play as them with their own unique way of doing things. This is why I also really liked the advance series.
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