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[Blue Blood]

To be honest, I find this quite awesome.

I've always wanted to be able to cancel Super transformation and conserve rings accordingly. Hell, it's kind of a smarter way to play Sonic, when you think about it, only becoming Super when you absolutely need to then just turn back again to save rings instead of just having to wait for them to deplete.

You never absolutely need to be Super Sonic- he's a special bonus. A detransform button is able to be abused as it is, but having it happen in-synch with the mandatory combo moves really bites.

Also, just tested the SKy Fortress boss. 4 hits in the first phase, 3 in the second and 1 for the final phase.

Edited by Blue Blood, 26 April 2012 - 04:36 PM.

[Solid SOAP]

Super Sonic has Episode 1 physics, and I'm not even kidding (it's not unreasonable to expect that to change between this beta and the final build however). Performing any tag action will turn Sonic un-Super again. Quite lame.

Seriously? What the fuck, why? With instant stopping, no inertia, etc? That sucks.

Hopefully it's ironed out in the final version, but if not that's pretty shitty. Honestly, Super Sonic has only ever been fun to play as in the classic games to me, I feel like they always get something wrong in the newer ones.

[Indigo Rush]

According to sources at Retro, and our very own Blue Blood... and this is in regards to a potential next installment...

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They found the following textures:
EGG_STATION01.dds
THUNDER6.dds

So apparently the EGG Station has some greater purpose... but also...

...they found....

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MASTER_E01.dds

Along with a glowing green light texture effect.

The texture for MASTER_E01.dds isn't finished, but the name in itself and the glowing green light is telling enough.

Master Emerald confirmed for Episode III, and by extension, Knuckles.

Edited by Indigo Rush, 26 April 2012 - 09:09 PM.

[Blue Blood]

^ Was just about to post that. Ta, Indy. Interesting stuff. There's an unused music files too which is all too telling when you listen look at the textures.

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And of course I can't post a link here, but I've got video on Youtube with the extra cutscene music/sounds in it. You can quite clearly hear the sound from the Emerald here amongst a bunch of mechanical and robotic sounds, presumably that's the Master Emerald and some other crap. Another unused texture is a bright red spotlight.

Edited by Blue Blood, 26 April 2012 - 09:22 PM.

[Stritix]

For some reason, the spoilers won't open. I've refreshed the page, restarted my laptop. Could someone PM me what the two spoilers are please?

[Nintendoga]

As awesome as this find is, I can't say I didn't see it coming.

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I mean it's pretty obvious that Sonic and Tails' pods were gonna land on Angel Island,where Eggman returns to steal the Master Emerald to re-power the Death Egg With. A blatant plot rehash to bring back Knuckles, which I'd be okay with.

My guess, is that the secret cutscene has Eggman inside the Egg Station, with Thunder and a lightning strikes behind it while he's looking at a monitor that has the Master Emerald on it, with To be Continued?

P.S. I thought E.g.g Station was destroyed back in Ep.1?

Edited by Nintendoga, 26 April 2012 - 09:50 PM.

[Blue Blood]

Didn't actually notice this before, but Skyler pointed it out:

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In the scene after Sky Fortress/beforeDeath Egg, there's several EGG Stations floating around the Death Egg itself. They're referred to as such within the files. They're blatantly similar to E1's EGG Station, being a mix of yellow and cyan.

Edited by Blue Blood, 26 April 2012 - 10:07 PM.

[Soniman]

Oh wow, am I actually getting interested in a Sonic story in this day an age?

[Indigo Rush]

I sure am. Bring on the next one!

[Super Soniko]

this is all really interesting, its like there is a deeper story or meaning behind the simple nature of episode 2, this is why i love sonic, always finding new things in the games.

[speedfreak]

Sounds all well and good but honestly the no lock on kills Sonic 4 for me personally. Any chance that sometime in the future Sega would do a disc release or something that adds proper lock on, aka play through all of Sonic 4 without having to load each episode as if it's a different game?

[Blue Blood]

Sounds all well and good but honestly the no lock on kills Sonic 4 for me personally. Any chance that sometime in the future Sega would do a disc release or something that adds proper lock on, aka play through all of Sonic 4 without having to load each episode as if it's a different game?

There's honestly no reason why this wasn't done in E2. It includes all the data for E1, except bosses and EGG Station. It should have been done already.

Edited by Blue Blood, 27 April 2012 - 12:13 AM.

[Sean]

Oh dear lord Super Sonic's physics. It's hilarious and disappointing at the same time.

[Burnt Ash]

Well, that new info on Episode III is bound to bring up some (hopefully pleasant) surprises! And Knuckles. I wanna see Knuckles. :V

[Hogfather]

Ken gives us all a masterclass as to how to avoid answering "If you don't own episode 1, will there be an episode 1 & 2 bundle deal?"

Although Gamester 81 does bring up quite a good point... why isn't there a bundle deal for ep 1 & 2?

[Generations (Chaos Warp)]

Sonic game story elements we are actually getting excited over? Izuka-San, you truly are listening to us!

Edited by Chaos Warp, 27 April 2012 - 02:36 AM.

[-Knuckles The Echidna-]

Now I would be more interested in the plot
If it wasn't rehashing-something it says it's not
You got Sonic and Tails doing the same crud
That we saw them do back when they were still new buds
Eggman built a death ship that they destroyed in '92
And then they did it again in Sonic and Knux, which was still new
Fast forward to '12, we have mk II from Sonic 4
Does Sonic Team really think we're not doing what we did before?

Edited by Kazaam, 27 April 2012 - 01:24 PM.

[Hershel Layton]

Exciting and deep story? What the hell are you guys talking about? This is nothing but a lazy rehash of the story from the classics. It's the exact same thing. See this is THE big problem with Sonic 4: It draws so much from its predecessors that it really doesn't have an identity of its own. Am I the only one who wants something that actually moves the classic series forward?

[Shoot em up Capbusta]

Well the story is kinda different metal sonic is in it aaand he glows purple.

[Blue Blood]

Exciting and deep story? What the hell are you guys talking about? This is nothing but a lazy rehash of the story from the classics. It's the exact same thing. See this is THE big problem with Sonic 4: It draws so much from its predecessors that it really doesn't have an identity of its own. Am I the only one who wants something that actually moves the classic series forward?

Don't get me wrong, I like the fact that S4 has given CD some canon relevance. But I agree with you whole heartedly. It doesn't actually do anything of it's and is a retread of previous titles. E1 being S1/S2 without Tails, E2 being CD without any of the cool things about Little Planet. EM attempts to add some relevance to E1 but ultimately I'm left wondering "why didn't Eggman just summon Metal and give him the treasure he found? Why did he even bother with the EGG Station?" If speculation about the E3 teaser is accurate then we all know what to expect there too.

EDIT: Also, I'm still bitter about the fact that the name 'EGG Station' initially sounded like some sort of train related stage to me, but ended up being another space station.

EDIT2: Speaking on the CD story, how come Eggman has to take over Little Planet in EM? I thought he won Sonic CD.

Edited by Blue Blood, 27 April 2012 - 01:20 PM.