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[Balding Spider]

Does mapping the the homing attack feature away from the boost so that you don't boost off the edge of a stage also count as small L?

Edited by Balding Spider, 12 April 2012 - 02:44 AM.

[Nepenthe]

Because the differences are very small.

So basically, you're ignoring everything else the games have to offer except Daytime gameplay as well as the control, speed, level design, and progression differences of the Daytime gameplay itself in each installment to conclude that these three games are exactly the same?

Okay.

[Sora]

So almost every sequel every created is essentially by your logic the same game with little differences? Mario, Spyro, Kingdom hearts,assassins creed,etc.

Edited by Hedgehogs Boost, 12 April 2012 - 02:47 AM.

[Stritix]

Does mapping the the homing attack feature away from the boost so that you don't boost off the edge of a stage also count as small L?

Yes. It's one of the small improvements.

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I don't think you understand what I'm trying to say. There may be plenty of small improvements, but it's still the same game. They haven't made any big differences to distinct the two.

I showed a friend a video of Apotos day, and modern Green Hill, and he thought that they were the same game.

Edited by -L-, 12 April 2012 - 02:50 AM.

[/_JXJ_\]

OKAY we get it, he was wrong, they each showed progression.

Now let's get back to me not being able to play as Shadow or Knuckles >:.(

Seriously, I don't think I can take anymore bare-bones plots with a ton of cheesy chokes. I don't want gritty, I want a sense of urgency with at least other characters who are apart of the story to be INVOLVED. I want to hear INTERACTIONS with charaters BESIDES Sonic, Tails, and Eggman!

[Sora]

Yes. It's one of the small improvements.

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I don't think you understand what I'm trying to say. There may be plenty of small improvements, but it's still the same game. They haven't made any big differences to distinct the two.

I showed a friend a video of Apotos day, and modern Green Hill, and he thought that they were the same game.

You used GHZ as a example to represent all of generations.......Really?*Palmface*

[Stritix]

You used GHZ as a example to represent all of generations.......Really?*Palmface*

Good manners cost nothing.

At the time, it was all we had. It still got the job done.

[Balding Spider]

OKAY we get it, he was wrong, they each showed progression.

Fine this argument has gone on longer than it's needed to.

I want to hear INTERACTIONS with charaters BESIDES Sonic, Tails, and Eggman!

Orbot, and Cubot?

[/_JXJ_\]

Fine this argument has gone on longer than it's needed to.



Orbot, and Cubot?

They're just stupid machines! They don't have souls! I mean the anthros.

[Stritix]

OKAY we get it, he was wrong, they each showed progression.

That's not the point I was trying to make. It's not about progression. They obviously improved overtime, but with nothing too distinct.

Yes. It's one of the small improvements.

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I don't think you understand what I'm trying to say. There may be plenty of small improvements, but it's still the same game. They haven't made any big differences to distinct the two.

I showed a friend a video of Apotos day, and modern Green Hill, and he thought that they were the same game.

[/_JXJ_\]

That's not the point I was trying to make. It's not about progression. They obviously improved overtime, but with nothing too distinct.

Cool story bro, now can we move on?

[Fluttershy]

Given what they've said, I doubt there will be much interactions at all anymore. That part is still unclear though, who knows how meaty or barebones the stories will be but given the past few games, barebones is a pretty safe guess.

[Balding Spider]

They're just stupid machines! They don't have souls! I mean the anthros.

Sorry to disappoint you but those two are Eggmans flunkies. And at this point I think they have a higher chance of reappearing in future games.

[Sora]

Sorry to disappoint you but those two are Eggmans flunkies. And at this point I think they have a higher chance of reappearing in future games.

Hell, they were even a part of M&S at the London games plot in the 3ds version.

[/_JXJ_\]

Sorry to disappoint you but those two are Eggmans flunkies. And at this point I think they have a higher chance of reappearing in future games.

For all we know they could be the final bosses, they could be pissed for being left in space. I'd still rather Sonic's friends though, dang this is those 90's reviewers faults who blame the characters instead of their bad gameplay l:<

[Nintendoga]

I agree with L. It's obvious besides the major game changing improvements(wisps, classic sonic) They are still the same game.

Just like how the classics are the same game. Even though CD added the Peel out, 2 added Tails, more acts, progression, no speed cap, better physics, and how 3&K added Knuckles, expansive levels, better progression,music, and cutscenes, they're still all the same game.

I showed my friend who has never played a sonic game in his life, Green Hill and Angel Island, and he thought they were the same game too.
And don't even get me started on the adventure games...

Almost every god damn game in exsitence and it's sequel keeps the core gameplay while expanding upon it, because that's what games do! Mario, Halo, Assasin's Creed, all do this shit. Why the hell is Sonic any different?

No major game differences huh? The daytime stages are the core gameplay, where as the Werehog, Wisps, and Classic Sonic all make the trilogy's games different.

[goku262002]

Heres the thing y'all...

As long as we got Jackoff reviewers saying "OMG I SAW ONE OF SONICS FRIENDS IN A SONIC GAME! THAT REMINDS ME OF ANOTHER SONIC GAME THAT SUCKED THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS ONE, FUCK THIS GAME FOREVER IT SUCKS x10,000!" were never going to get playable characters outside of Sonic. its until the reviewer base starts complaining that they would like to see other characters playable, SEGA/Sonic Team will finally start listening. So better hope the next game is based on the unleashed engine and comes to PC so we can port our generations character mods over.

SEGA listens to 2 things: Money and dat metacritic score. Sucks and all, but were the minority we may bitch until we turn blue but its not like half of it is even taken in consideration.

Edited by goku262002, 12 April 2012 - 03:19 AM.

[Sora]

Actually i was surprised when i saw a few reviews actually ASKING for playable characters to return after generations.

[sonfan1984]

SEGA listens to 2 things: Money and dat metacritic score. Sucks and all, but were the minority we may bitch until we turn blue but its not like half of it is even taken in consideration.

We're the minority but we're the ones who is keeping the series alive. The reviewers don't care about the series like we do and don't understand why the fans are so passionate about it.

[Balding Spider]

Hell, they were even a part of M&S at the London games plot in the 3ds version.

Pfft, really? Guess they'll stay around so Eggman has someone to play off of, like Sonic to Tails.

For all we know they could be the final bosses, they could be pissed for being left in space. I'd still rather Sonic's friends though, dang this is those 90's reviewers faults who blame the characters instead of their bad gameplay l:<

Somehow I can't see either of those two being final bosses given their personalities. As for the characters I'd say the blame goes to equal parts friends and bad gameplay. Looking over the franchise they've continously been cramed into games that had no need for them.