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[Nintendoga]

Anyway, into the serious stuff, I do genuinely believe it's much safer for ones mind to not think about such things...it can only end in brain pain...although sometimes it can't be helped...

But isn't it better to think outside the box every now and then instead of reading history books and listening to public access TV? It's questions like these that some of us are afraid to answer, don't delve into because they have accepted this concept, or simply because we have no answer. The only way to find out an answer, is to ask a question.

Spoiler

MIND=BLOWN

Edited by Nintendoga, 25 April 2012 - 12:27 AM.

[Amomynous]

Even if it's just a concept it exists, if it exists beyond being a concept I think is the actual question here.

[American Ristar]

Well yes, because you couldn't be reading this before I posted it, could you?

Before is the status of my post in time, right now as I'm typing this, before you're reading it get me?

I have a question about time. Why does it move in only one direction for us? See I can sit down on my bed like I am now and eventually get back up. What if I had to keep sitting more and more until my life's end, because I couldn't move backwards? Would that be like time? If you think about it from our first conscious moments, we are flung down an irreversible path. We are experiencing time. Why? And what else is like time that it has to be experienced? See I can measure my other dimensions. I don't know the dimensions of my room but I bet I could get a measuring tape and show it to you. Time is only felt by us. There is no equivalent of the yardstick for time. I cannot show you a second. I can stand with you and experience a second, feel it come and go with you, and say "There that was one second" but it's so much less tangible as it passes us. Essentially we are falling through time. Are we 3 and a half dimensional?

Music exists in time. An arrangement of sounds over time, beats in a minute, and patterns made to be beautiful to our ears. Maybe music or other sequenced events is evidence of time? Would something outside human perception of time even understand what our music is? Would our most moving efforts only sound flat to him, from beginning to end, and as plain as a piece of ribbon? Would a creature like that have its own type of music, would hearing it be a hundred times more than any drug conceived to us? To see our whole world top-down must be a nauseating vantage point.

Edited by Badnikz, 28 April 2012 - 12:25 AM.

[Jayhawker30]

I can actually control time. When I go to sleep, hours become seconds.

[Metal Gear (sting)RAY]

I can actually control time. When I go to sleep, hours become seconds.

INCEPTION.

[Emmett L. Brown]

INCEPTION.

Wouldn't that be the other way around? You go to the next layer of the dream and seconds become minutes? That's easy to pull off in real life, though. The last hour of work takes WAAAAAY longer than sixty minutes to get through.

[Nintendoga]

Wouldn't that be the other way around? You go to the next layer of the dream and seconds become minutes? That's easy to pull off in real life, though. The last hour of work takes WAAAAAY longer than sixty minutes to get through.

Sorta on topic question, but

If Inception was real, then if strong willed/minded people kept going deeper and deeper into the next layers of their dreams, then couldn't it get to the point where they live out the rest of their lives in their dreams, or make it so in their dream they never age, and reach a point of infinity when living?

[Metal Gear (sting)RAY]

Sorta on topic question, but

If Inception was real, then if strong willed/minded people kept going deeper and deeper into the next layers of their dreams, then couldn't it get to the point where they live out the rest of their lives in their dreams, or make it so in their dream they never age, and reach a point of infinity when living?

I think Limbo is the bottom layer.

[batson]

I remember the first time i became aware of this issue. I was about 11, and after hearing somewhere from someone (i dont remember from where or from who) that time "doesn't actually exist" i went and asked my dad if that was true. "Yeah, pretty much" he said, "time is just an abstraction of movement". Naturally, i had no idea what the hell that was supposed to mean, but after he explained it more thoroughly and in simpler terms, it made sense to me. And it still does, for that matter. No movement/changes of any kind = no time, because nothing separates one moment from another.

Edited by batson, 29 April 2012 - 10:05 AM.

[Metal Gear (sting)RAY]

And it still does, for that matter. No movement/changes of any kind = no time, because nothing separates one moment from another.

No, there is something between each moment- we call it Planck time- it's too short to perceive, but there has to be a fundamental separation between one moment and the next, otherwise all moments would be the same for the same reason .999... = 1. It would essentially be Zeno's paradox: nothing could move because there would be an infinitely deconstructable space between each moment that has to be passed. And there will never be a scenario where more than one unit of mass exists and no movement or change is occurring, because if nothing else there is gravity acting between them or light reflecting off of them. In other words, movement couldn't exist if time was simply an abstraction.

[Lemanic]

VSauce done it!