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#1 Patticus

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 03:25 PM

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Agenda 21: Arizona close to passing anti-UN-sustainability bill
By Jim Gold, msnbc.com

Arizona lawmakers appear close to sending to Gov. Jan Brewer a tea party-backed bill that proponents say would stop a United Nations takeover conspiracy but that critics claim could end state and cities’ pollution-fighting efforts and even dismantle the state unemployment office.

A final legislative vote is expected Monday on a bill that would outlaw government support of any of the 27 principles contained in the 1992 United Nations Rio Declaration on Environment and Development, also sometimes referred to as Agenda 21.

Senate Bill 1507 was passed by the state Senate last month and received an initial House affirmation Wednesday. It is sponsored by state Sen. Judy Burges, R-Sun City West, who also sponsored a state birther bill that Brewer vetoed last year.

"The bill is designed to protect the rights of Arizona citizens and prevent encroachment on those rights by international institutions," Burges told msnbc.com in an email. "We have three branches of government and when one branch preempts the process through executive orders, the balance of power is lost in the process. It is that simple -- no more, no less."

At a March 15 hearing on the bill, Burges said an executive order signed by then-President Bill Clinton in 1993 started the implementation of Agenda 21 after the Senate refused to pass a treaty ratifying it.

"Any way you want to describe it, Agenda 21 is a direct attack on the middle class and working poor" through "social engineering of our citizens" in "every aspect" of their lives," she told the hearing.

But House Minority Leader Chad Campbell, D-Phoenix, has a different view.

“It’s the most poorly crafted bill in this state,” Campbell told msnbc.com. “It’s so broad and overreaching, we’re not sure what it could impact.”

Among the U.N. declaration’s non-binding principles are calls for sustainable development, environmental protection, eradicating poverty, eliminating unsustainable production and consumption patterns, economic growth and the participation of women in government decisions.

“We wouldn’t be able to use CFL light bulbs in state buildings because that would be considered energy efficiency,” Campbell said.

Campbell also said that the state’s Economic Security Department, which handles unemployment and welfare benefits, could be outlawed because it has to do with eradicating poverty.

Also, Arizona universities have sustainability programs that could be banned if the bill becomes law, Campbell warned.

Arizona State University has a School of Sustainability, Northern Arizona University offers a master's in sustainable communities, and the University of Arizona has an environment and sustainability portal.

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Brewer, who last spring vetoed Burges' bill to require presidential candidates to prove their U.S. citizenship, typically does not comment on legislation until it reaches her desk, her spokesperson told msnbc.com Thursday.

About the Rio declaration, SB1507 says “the United Nations has enlisted the support of numerous independent, shadow organizations to surreptitiously implement this agenda around the world.”

Rep. Terri Proud, R-Tucson, told supporters in an email that the U.N. declaration “will take away our rights as Americans by allowing the United Nations to mandate laws on our soil,” the AzCapitolTimes.com reported. “It’s very real and it is happening.”

The Times also reported that during House debate Wednesday, Rep. Jack Harper, R-Surprise, said the declaration is connected to the “occult” of sustainability.

"The tea party and conspiracy theorists run the state now," Campbell told msnbc.com.


From: http://usnews.msnbc....ainability-bill


So basically they are pushing to ban all sustainability measures, and anything else that was ever passed by the UN. Now, I thought that this seemed incredibly retarded, I thought that there must be some serious, serious stretching of the truth on the journalists' part here, but I looked up the bill in the provided link...

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Seriously Arizona, what the bloody hell is wrong with you? How is it that people can so willingly elect representatives like these, and others who basically tell them that recycling and emission reduction programs are an attack on their fundamental freedoms? "You have a right, nay a duty to breathe in smog and drink poisoned water!"

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 03:31 PM

I'm all for passing measures that invalidate U.N. "mandates" (especially when they aren't ratified), but this one is so vague and poorly written that it's obviously going to be abused.



And, for that matter, legislation that basically says "they're out to get us" and is knee-jerk reactionary to something written 9-years ago...

It's more funny than sad, but then again I don't live in Arizona.

Edited by Tornado, 28 April 2012 - 03:32 PM.


#3 Shirou Emiya

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 03:35 PM

What.

No, seriously. What.

This is just incomprehensibly retarded. You do not make laws based around conspiracy theories. Only an idiot would do that.

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 03:39 PM

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What.

No, seriously. What.

This is just incomprehensibly retarded. You do not make laws based around conspiracy theories. Only an idiot would do that.

We're talking about America.

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 03:46 PM

^And......what does thatat have to do with anything?

Edited by The Groosenator, 28 April 2012 - 03:46 PM.


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Posted 28 April 2012 - 03:51 PM

^And......what does that have to do with anything?


Well, I'll admit that I laughed. =p Gotta laugh at ourselves every once in awhile I guess.

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 04:43 PM

^And......what does thatat have to do with anything?


You spawned Alex Jones (A Conservative Fat Fuck that thinks everything is a conspiracy and gets paid to talk verbal Diarrhoea).Posted Image

Seriously I feel bad for the intelligent and sane people that live in Arizona, I mean toxic waste and smog is really great for freedom, freedom, FREEDOM! Posted Image

#8 Velotix von Skruviktorrius

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 05:07 PM

^And......what does thatat have to do with anything?


America has an infamous international reputation for oppressing the intelligent and allowing the dangerously retarded to have positions of influence in the country.

I thought everyone was aware of this. o.o

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 05:17 PM

Lets not turn this into an America bashing thread. All countries have there pros and cons, and people tend to lie to get into power, like our current British government for example. (And previous)

I do like how the Americans have this reputation of being really friendly and supportive, like you'd see at there sporting events. It's different to us Brits who would just laugh when a guy makes a mistake and shout stuff like w*****...

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 05:17 PM

America has an infamous international reputation for oppressing the intelligent and allowing the dangerously retarded to have positions of influence in the country.


There does indeed appear to be an anti-intelligentsia bent to this country. Just look at all those references to smart people being beaten down in American mainstream popular culture: "Nerds" and "geeks" being seen as the least desirable people, vacuous airheads filling most of society's "role-model" positions, "Jocks" and "cheerleaders" (burly men and bimbo girls) are routinely the most popular people in school (and, in Ohio at least, in the grown-up workplace too).

Of course America has an absolute metric fuck-ton of positives to it, and I'm not trying to say that everything here is bad, but the under-reported anti-science leanings of many of this country's people cannot be denied.

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 05:30 PM

Lets not turn this into an America bashing thread. All countries have there pros and cons, and people tend to lie to get into power, like our current British government for example. (And previous)


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Posted 28 April 2012 - 06:53 PM

Can someone please take the Grand Canyon away from these guys? I don't think they deserve it anymore.

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 06:59 PM

There does indeed appear to be an anti-intelligentsia bent to this country. Just look at all those references to smart people being beaten down in American mainstream popular culture: "Nerds" and "geeks" being seen as the least desirable people, vacuous airheads filling most of society's "role-model" positions, "Jocks" and "cheerleaders" (burly men and bimbo girls) are routinely the most popular people in school (and, in Ohio at least, in the grown-up workplace too).

Of course America has an absolute metric fuck-ton of positives to it, and I'm not trying to say that everything here is bad, but the under-reported anti-science leanings of many of this country's people cannot be denied.



I'd say our media tends to characterize the popular people as emotionally and morally vacuuous. Jocks are stupid assholes, cheerleaders are mean bitches, both tend to be whores, and the nerds and geeks who're tormented by them are inevitably better people more suited for success in society. Then again, we seem to have a thing against high school culture in general which is constantly stereotyped as being full of whiny brats who overinflate their problems. The same is true for celebrity debutantes like Kim Kardashian and the like; no one watches these people because they admire them. They watch for the inevitable drama and tragedy.

Not that there isn't an anti-intellectual bent in this country of course. The GOP's current crusade against college and university as "liberal/atheistic indoctrination camps" and parts of their claims of "class warfare" being waged is proof enough of that. But I'd like to give American pop culture a little more credit than; it tends to only deify the beautiful yet dumb people when they can exploit their flaws for the sake of a moral lesson or just for pure, trashy Schadenfreude.

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 11:11 PM

And to think one of my friends used to live in Arizona. Holy crap.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 07:22 AM

I thought this might make me angry but it's really more just funny. They're threatened by the UN's non binding resolutions? Those things are tantamount to, "Hey we wrote some things on a paper and we'd appreciate it if you read them."

Next thing you know tin foil hats will become part of the state congress's dress code.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 06:41 PM

Have you also heard that in Arizona they're going to make trolling on the Internet illegal?

Of course they'll probably hardly catch anyone with that if it passes, but just think that someone from Reddit or 4chan who lives in Arizona would actually go to jail for years simply because they were trolling.

Trolling is stupid anyways, but it's also a stupid law to pass.

I'd say our media tends to characterize the popular people as emotionally and morally vacuuous. Jocks are stupid assholes, cheerleaders are mean bitches, both tend to be whores, and the nerds and geeks who're tormented by them are inevitably better people more suited for success in society. Then again, we seem to have a thing against high school culture in general which is constantly stereotyped as being full of whiny brats who overinflate their problems. The same is true for celebrity debutantes like Kim Kardashian and the like; no one watches these people because they admire them. They watch for the inevitable drama and tragedy.

Not that there isn't an anti-intellectual bent in this country of course. The GOP's current crusade against college and university as "liberal/atheistic indoctrination camps" and parts of their claims of "class warfare" being waged is proof enough of that. But I'd like to give American pop culture a little more credit than; it tends to only deify the beautiful yet dumb people when they can exploit their flaws for the sake of a moral lesson or just for pure, trashy Schadenfreude.


Well, you're right, and you also can't deny that America's educational system is pretty fucked up where it's at right now. Not only is bullying becoming a big issue there, but also teachers just aren't paid enough to deal with the shit they probably have to deal with on a near daily basis (especially high school teachers) and it just...I hope I don't sound like someone who thinks the '90s generation is so much better than every other generation especially now, but there also seems to be a big increase in ignorance in kids today too. Not to mention some of the Republicans who seem to want to take feminism a hundred years back and continue to not fund our educational system.

And now hearing both of those laws trying to be put into law and someone I know of who has to deal with idiots at Arizona University now I'm starting to get really scared to visit that state.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 07:22 PM

...God dammit. Why do I have to be in Arizona when all this shite happens? All I wanted to do was get a college education and then make video games. But noooo, stupid legislation has to fuck everything all up. Never in my life have I ever wanted to just move to Canada, or at least some other state, more.




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