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Rivalries you'd like to see other than the known ones?


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#1 Sonu23

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 01:06 AM

Besides Sonic vs. Shadow or Kuckles or Metal Sonic?

How about Shadow vs. Knuckles? If you thought Knuckles couldn't stand Sonic's cockiness and boasting, Shadow would be in another league. I'd like to see this fight, and we got a little taste of the two in Sonic Free Riders where Knuckles gets mad at Shadow calling him and his friends pathetic.

And then I'd like to see Metal Sonic vs. Silver.

Future Hero vs. Evil Robot villain. It would be epic.

What about you guys?

#2 Alexander

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 02:18 AM

Personally, I kind of want the cast to be greatly reduced like it was in Unleashed and Colors, so I don't think I'd be into more "rivalries".

Though, I have to admit, one I would like to see would be Professor Pickle vs. Pele the Beloved Dog.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 02:22 AM

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Any and all. Make the characters actually fucking interact with each other. For a series that's gone on this long, you could pick two characters at random and probably not be able to write more than a sentence about what they think about each other, if that.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:16 AM

Tails and Eggman.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:17 AM

Tails and Eggman.



Ahh yes, where did that go?

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:23 AM

I'd personally like to see Tails have more rivalries, kinda like he did with Eggman in SA2. Despite the poor voice acting, it was cool to see him take charge and fight someone on his own instead of being the timid one.

Other than that, I just think there needs to be more character interaction in general, whether it be rivalry or friendship. With such a diverse cast of characters, it would be very beneficial to development if they mixed and matched 'em up to experiment with the different personalities. We all know how Sonic and Tails get along. Same with Knuckles and Rouge, the Chaotix trio, etc. But what about Knuckles and Silver? How would they interact? Shadow and Tails? Espio and Rouge? Just exploring ideas like these could lead to some interesting character development, which would in turn make the stories that much more enjoyable.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:27 AM

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I can't be the only one disappointed that the mind controlled Tails thing in Colours went absolutely nowhere. Even if just for one boss battle I would've loved to see that expanded on.

Edited by The Cheese, 22 May 2012 - 03:28 AM.


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Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:28 AM

Cheese and Perfect Dark Gaia.

#9 Azure Yakuzu

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:38 AM

Rivalries are boring, I choose to talk about character interactions in general.


The series is lacking in so much character interaction, its not even funny. Over 20 damn characters, and half of them haven't spoken even a sentence to each other, its appalling. I mean games like Free Riders and Colors DS are the exceptions, but really there should just be more interactions in general.


I'd like to see more of Metal Sonic & Sonic honestly, Metal's desire of killing Sonic just always struck me as one of the more interesting rivalries around, basically a fight between who's the "real" Sonic.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:38 AM

Here's one idea... Tails and Metal Sonic or Shadow. The idea here is that Shadow and Metal Sonic are explicit rivals (and in some cases, the enemies) of the main hero, Sonic. What if there was a situation where Sonic couldn't get the job done, and had to rely on Tails to fill his place? It's similar to the battle between Tails and Eggman in Sonic Adventure 2, where Tails' main drive was actually revenge, but also a fulfillment of Sonic's one line: "I'm counting on you, Tails."

How friggin' awesome would it be to see the deadly likes of Metal Sonic or Shadow take on Tails, expecting an easy feat, only to find out that deep inside of him, Tails is actually pretty strong! He's taken down Eggman on his own before, so I would assume he could hold his own against other deadlier rivals. They even touched on this idea in Sonic X:



Though it was more of Tails' wit that saved him... I'd still like to see more of this.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:38 AM

Espio and Rouge?


That was such a disappointment in Sonic Rivals 2. They didn't develop at all!

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:40 AM

Silver and Shadow.


Idealism vs. Cynicism, it'd be more unique than the generic shonen rivalry people see with Sonic & Shadow at least.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:44 AM

Isn't "idealism vs cynicism" the core of the typical shonen rivalry?

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:46 AM

Isn't "idealism vs cynicism" the core of the typical shonen rivalry?


I thought it was the whole "Goku vs. Vegeta" thing?

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:47 AM

Here's my idea.

Take every recurring character, preferably all the ones who were present in Sonic Generations, write all of their names on a slip of paper and put them in a hat or a bowl or something to contain them. Then put a lid on the container and shake. Then draw two names out of the hat, and which ever two names you draw, you make a rivalry out of it.

Because honestly, they haven't made any rivalry aside from Sonic/Knuckles, Sonic/Shadow, Sonic/Metal Sonic, Tails/Eggman, Knuckles/Rouge and anything else that was made prominent.

But the one that I would support more than anything would be Shadow vs. Knuckles simply because I want to see them fuck up the entire landscape in their fight.

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The series is lacking in so much character interaction, its not even funny. Over 20 damn characters, and half of them haven't spoken even a sentence to each other, its appalling.


Speaking of.

Remember Sonic's birthday party? Where all of Sonic's friends got together?

And how it was the perfect time to have characters interact with those that they never interact with?

And how they even had a common subject they could have used to break the ice with? (Sonic; how the met him, their opinions of him, memories gone by, etc.)

And how the writers couldn't fucking think of anything for them to say so they just had their mouths move while performing half assed gestures to simulate conversation?


That... really annoyed the fuck out of me.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:51 AM

Well, technically Silver had never interacted with Cream before then, so it did introduce one new character dynamic.

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Scraping the barrel.

Edit: Oh wait, that was just the grouping in the final battle, she wasn't with Silver and Blaze in the afterparty.

Right...

Edited by VEDJ-F, 22 May 2012 - 03:53 AM.


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Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:51 AM

I thought it was the whole "Goku vs. Vegeta" thing?

And is that not, to a certain extent, an idealist vs cynic?

And how the writers couldn't fucking think of anything for them to say so they just had their mouths move while performing half assed gestures to simulate conversation?

Given that it was just a short intro, I can't really blame them for not putting any serious conversation in there.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:54 AM

Here's my idea.

Take every recurring character, preferably all the ones who were present in Sonic Generations, write all of their names on a slip of paper and put them in a hat or a bowl or something to contain them. Then put a lid on the container and shake. Then draw two names out of the hat, and which ever two names you draw, you make a rivalry out of it.

Because honestly, they haven't made any rivalry aside from Sonic/Knuckles, Sonic/Shadow, Sonic/Metal Sonic, Tails/Eggman, Knuckles/Rouge and anything else that was made prominent.

But the one that I would support more than anything would be Shadow vs. Knuckles simply because I want to see them fuck up the entire landscape in their fight.


Ya know, they should just do that for the next game in general; Decide how many characters are going to be in a game, throw in everyone not named Sonic or Eggman into a hat, and whoever comes out will be in the game.

Speaking of.

Remember Sonic's birthday party? Where all of Sonic's friends got together?

And how it was the perfect time to have characters interact with those that they never interact with?

And how they even had a common subject they could have used to break the ice with? (Sonic; how the met him, their opinions of him, memories gone by, etc.)

And how the writers couldn't fucking think of anything for them to say so they just had their mouths move while performing half assed gestures to simulate conversation?


That... really annoyed the fuck out of me.


Or how about when Sonic saves any of them, except Tails of course, he couldn't be bothered to respond to any of their words with nothing more than a gesture, and ignore them for the remainder of the game? Yeah, that pissed me off too.

And is that not, to a certain extent, an idealist vs cynic


I always thought the entire thing was based on "Rawr, Kakarot I want to beat you" "Lol ok" rather than idealism vs. Cynicism.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:58 AM

I'm not fully sure if we should blame the writers for Generations since the whole Sonic Only sentiment still seemed to hold tight during that game and that it's plot was even shorter than Colors.

If they were allow to make a larger story, and they still did that, then I can't say anymore about that.




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