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[743-E.D. Missile]

At least it would an excellent quality title, rather than a sort of good annual release. If anybody can do it's Nintendo. I wouldn't know who else would be more capable.


Just had a thought...can you imagine if somehow Dimps got the rights to Sonic? XD

Automation City? No thanks.

[Shirou Emiya]

Console exclusive or not, there's no other publisher I'd rather trust with the Sonic franchise than Nintendo. And I doubt they'd neglect it either - Sonic does sell, they know this.

That, and I imagine they could do great things with it. Give it to Miyamoto or Retro Studios and we could see something fantastic.

[743-E.D. Missile]

Console exclusive or not, there's no other publisher I'd rather trust with the Sonic franchise than Nintendo. And I doubt they'd neglect it either - Sonic does sell, they know this.

That, and I imagine they could do great things with it. Give it to Miyamoto or Retro Studios and we could see something fantastic.

Blank slate Sonic, no extra playable characters other than Sonic, idiotic sects of fans claiming for nothing except Classic 2D....

[Shirou Emiya]

Blank slate Sonic, no extra playable characters other than Sonic, idiotic sects of fans claiming for nothing except Classic 2D....

... What does that have to do with anything? We've had that for years.

[Wolfy]

If Sonic did in fact die, SSMB will just slowly become one of those places like I've been to for forums about things that died ages ago, but on a larger scale here. If anyone wants to know what I'm talking about, go lurk the many subforums on a place called "Animation Source" *shivers*.

But seriously, it's a bit of a shocker to read this, even just being a rumor. Like Hogfather, I don't want to believe, D;. However, there's a part of me that really thinks it could happen. The problem is if Sonic did get pawned off to another company, who would really be the best to run it? I mean you give it to a first party console place like Nintendo and while it may be good and get frequent releases, the idea of it being land-locked to a console sickens me unless it's a Sega console. Hell, even if Sega had a console in this day in age, with how things are now, I don't know if I'd want it console exclusive.

However, you sell it to a 3rd party, it could be on everything still, but I question the quality depending on the company, as well as if we'd only see Sonic like once every 4-5 years. That's a pretty big difference than the usually few titles a year with him in it at least in some form.

I guess ending with Generations and kinda tying the loop with the original Sonic trilogy and Sonic CD with Sonic 4 makes a pretty conclusive outro though, huh? But IDK guys, I don't think Sonic is going anywhere yet, but it's a weird world to think with out him still running.

[743-E.D. Missile]

... What does that have to do with anything? We've had that for years.

Well, this is purely anecdote and observation on my part, but Nintendo to me is known for several things:

1) blank slate characters: other than spin offs, nearly all of their major mascots/characters are blank slates. Granted some of them have more personality than others and execute what little they do have well (that's why I love Luigi over Mario any day <3).

2) Only one character is ever playable or even worthy of note in the main game (I'm looking at you Mario).

3) A lot of their games feel kinda samey to me. They aren't bad, I do love some of them, but it does get annoying having what is in essence the same plot over and over again.

4) I don't want them to bend over to the idiotic sects of this fanbase like SEGA has a tendency to do on many occasions.

Maybe I'm just partially sleep deprived, and maybe just overly cynical about it, but I don't want Sonic to become like Mario in the above mentioned aspects. If Nintendo can prove me wrong, then I'll take this back, but until then... eh.

[Hogfather]

Something that I've been thinking, if this is part of their restructuring and its a decision to save money.

Why shut down the entire Europe arm? Considering how big it is and all the work it does, would it not make more sense to shut down some of the more smaller studios that don't really do much? e.g. Sega Mecixo has it's own place and community manager for goodness sake... this next one is a tad controversial, but compared to Sega Europe, SOA is tiny, would it not make more sense to shut that down instead?

Even within Sega Europe itself there are smaller divisions right? Would it not make more sense to shut down parts of it as apposed to the entire part... and wait a moment, didn't sega recently buy/build a new studio in England which would be making Vita titles?

... I'm slowly starting to lean towards Tom.



I know why I'm not instantly yelling 'faaaaaakkkeee' because we've been talking about how Segas got problems for months now, bit games have not sold well at all and the issue of advertising has been going on for years, but looking at the wider picture outside of the complaints regarding segas strategy, it's an odd thing to do all things considered.

[Jetronic]

You know... this could be a very good thing.

*dodges flaming bag of live scorpions*

What SEGA needs right now is limitations with their finances...

*sidesteps machine gun bullets*

...so they can't use high end graphics and production values...

*ducks underneath missile covered in cyanide*

...and therefore, being forced to use their creativity and imagination to make the games fun, like the Genesis days. Back when the stakes were higher, when they had little left to lose, the very environment in which our speedy blue hero was forged 21 years ago!

...guys?

Not that I agree nor disagree, but whatever positive it does bring, the biggest negative here are people losing jobs because of this, considering if it's true.

[Thigolf]

Well, this is purely anecdote and observation on my part, but Nintendo to me is known for several things:

1) blank slate characters: other than spin offs, nearly all of their major mascots/characters are blank slates. Granted some of them have more personality than others and execute what little they do have well (that's why I love Luigi over Mario any day <3).

2) Only one character is ever playable or even worthy of note in the main game (I'm looking at you Mario).

3) A lot of their games feel kinda samey to me. They aren't bad, I do love some of them, but it does get annoying having what is in essence the same plot over and over again.

4) I don't want them to bend over to the idiotic sects of this fanbase like SEGA has a tendency to do on many occasions.

Maybe I'm just partially sleep deprived, and maybe just overly cynical about it, but I don't want Sonic to become like Mario in the above mentioned aspects. If Nintendo can prove me wrong, then I'll take this back, but until then... eh.

There's one thing Nintendo is great in, it's keeping the essence of a series intact while making something new out of it. I don't think Nintendo would just get rid of something the Sonic series is known for, like the characters.

Edited by Thigolf, 03 June 2012 - 08:38 AM.

[Super Mario]

I'd be more inclined to believe it's the last Western developed game that would come out of SEGA, not the last retail SEGA game ever. Sonic isn't going anywhere. If SEGA did go under and sell the rights to the series, I honestly think Nintendo is the only company that could do the character justice.

Edit: If Nintendo were to "trim the fat" so to speak (which I doubt they would), they'd probably just rid of all the damn superfluous characters and roll with the classics. Tails and Knuckles wouldn't go anywhere, that's for sure.

Edited by Crow T. Robot, 03 June 2012 - 08:40 AM.

[743-E.D. Missile]

There's one thing Nintendo is great in, it's keeping the essence of a series intact while making something new out of it. I don't think Nintendo would just get rid of something the Sonic series is known for, like the characters.

Has Nintendo ever had to deal with a fanbase as crazy as ours?

[Super Mario]

The Zelda fanbase is fucking insane.

[Thigolf]

Has Nintendo ever had to deal with a fanbase as crazy as ours?

Doesn't matter, it seems like Nintendo doesn't give a shit about their fanbase. They would do their own thing.

[MarcelloF]

Well, this is purely anecdote and observation on my part, but Nintendo to me is known for several things:

1) blank slate characters: other than spin offs, nearly all of their major mascots/characters are blank slates. Granted some of them have more personality than others and execute what little they do have well (that's why I love Luigi over Mario any day <3).

2) Only one character is ever playable or even worthy of note in the main game (I'm looking at you Mario).

3) A lot of their games feel kinda samey to me. They aren't bad, I do love some of them, but it does get annoying having what is in essence the same plot over and over again.

4) I don't want them to bend over to the idiotic sects of this fanbase like SEGA has a tendency to do on many occasions.

Maybe I'm just partially sleep deprived, and maybe just overly cynical about it, but I don't want Sonic to become like Mario in the above mentioned aspects. If Nintendo can prove me wrong, then I'll take this back, but until then... eh.

1) That doesn't matter. Nintendo wouldn't change Sonic's character.

2) Mario games always have Luigi playable.

4) When does Nintendo ever listen to the fans?

[Major Ziggy]

Ah this forum will live on, as The My Little Zombie Stadium.

But seriously this sounds too bad to be true. I cannot think what would happen to Sonic in one of his most popular areas of the world. If there is no more SoS after this, all the more reason to have a ruddy good time this year.

[Blue Blood]

Considering all of SEGA's financial woes recently, the restructuring of SOA and the fact that even Sonic isn't selling as well as they'd expect, this honestly sounds worryingly believeable. It's something that's been on my mind for a while, so I'm really hoping nothing comes of it.

[Tobbii]

The Zelda fanbase is fucking insane.

Indeed. Thankfully (depending on your feelings towards certain games), Miyamoto and Aounuma don't care about what other people say, they just do whatever they feel like.

[Michael Myers]

Karma's a bitch.

Edited by Michael Myers, 03 June 2012 - 10:16 AM.

[BW199148]

This pretty bad if this true, Sega must be in dire financia sraits to lay off an entire continent workforce, will this effect distribution of future SEGA games across Europe?

Also how would stop them from making AAA Games (What is an AAA game for that matter, I have an idea but still not to sure) if they still have America and Japan Branches open?

[Metal Gear (sting)RAY]

I seriously hope this isn't true. But in the case Sega DOES tank, my first and foremost hope is that Platinum gets the rights to their games' IPs. I WANT VANQUISH 2 DAMMIT.