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[Snads Squishmitten]

Now this has been a topic that I have wanted to make for awhile......years actually.

The sad thing is I haven't for a variety of reasons. I'll be honest, I was a bit afraid to bring it up. I mean, it's not uncommon.....especially in a male driven nerd culture, to be called out when trying to bring up the subject or even question something you see as an anti-women status quo. It's enough that anyone making a point that has to do with feminism in general is subject to a lot of scrutiny. I mean even bringing up the subject in a close group of friends can lead to conflict and general uuuhgness

But when I thought about it, I realized my own fear in broaching the subject was part of the problem. I proudly call myself a feminist and take a great interest in feminist subjects, so I'm actually feeling kind of ashamed that I put my own worry about my self image and how people would react above my beliefs. So now I am making this topic ~__~

Anyways being a female myself, I suppose I'm probably more inclined to care about the issue since it directly affects me. Probably most notably for me at least it segways into my interest in nerd culture, since like I said earlier it's a pretty predominantly male centric place and sometimes it can just be frustrating to deal with.

I think the most disturbing thing to me is the negative connotations and misinformation spread about the term. So many people consider "Feminist" to be a negative label, and it's sad to see that something that's supposed to be a force for positive change seen in this light.

However I have been seeing a lot of positives recently that have made me really optimistic. The fact that feminism and how women are presented in media like gaming has been a pretty hot topic, and it's nice to see people openly talking about this and realizing the impact stuff like this has on our culture.

I would encourage those of you who are skeptical of feminism to look into it, as I think the goals of most feminists are something that will benefit the world for both men and women.

I guess I don't know what direction to lead the discussion in, as I just got off working 9 hours and I'm basically finishing this in zombie state. I guess I could find some things to post on it later, but if anyone has any thoughts on feminism feel free to debate/share

[Soniman]

I'm not very well versed in these kinds of things, so im just going to say that I'm all for wemon's equality and what not.

Though there are some feminist who get way bent out of shape, as a whole It's great....

God I hate how this was worded.

[KatamariParadox]

*removed*

Edited by The Playful Pikachu, 09 October 2012 - 05:54 PM.

[TheNicollette30]

Nice topic. Guys can be assholes. They mature slower than us anyway. I think they try to lower womans self esteem to raise thereselves.

(Sorry if this sounds like a insult to guys, not all guys are immature, or assholes)

Yet, without us. There would be no more generations

[SKANKFUNK]

Nice topic. Guys can be assholes. They mature slower than us anyway. I think they try to lower womans self esteem to raise thereselves.

(Sorry if this sounds like a insult to guys, not all guys are immature, or assholes)

Yet, without us. There would be no more generations

Feminism = Female supremacy? I'd like equality =) Women and Men should be treated equally.

Edited by Travcodad, 09 August 2012 - 02:59 AM.

[Vertekins]

Oh I like Feminism I am totally for movements such as top freedom both for the right of any woman to bear her chest in any situation where a man can bear his because female breasts are not profane and are an entirely normal part of female anatomy and for the right of any woman and her infant to breastfeed wherever they may be within reason. It frankly pisses me off when sites such as Facebook forbade innocent and perfectly acceptable and natural photos of mothers breastfeeding yet had dating service ads on their sites featuring bare-chested women bearing their unnaturally enlarged tits. Double standard much?

And doesn't it just sicken you how pregnancy discrimination is the most rapidly increasing form of discrimination in the workplace?

Edited by Verte'Botnik, 09 August 2012 - 03:07 AM.

[shimapun]

It's really a shame that many people (this includes both men and women) appear to think that 'feminist' is synonymous with 'bra burning lunatic bitch that hates men' when the large majority of them are really far from that. Speaking on a bare-bones level, if you think that men and women should have equal social, political, and economic rights, then you might as well consider yourself a feminist.

Don't roll your eyes and ignore someone every time feminism is brought up during an issue. You might be closing off something worth seeing.

[Scheming Minor]

Do you think that women should have the same rights and should be treated equally as men?

Then you are a feminist. End of story. It's surprising how many lunkheads get this wrong and confuse it to extremists.

[Discoid]

I believe in equality between all people; be they male, female, heterosexual, homosexual, white, black, or whatever else. That's pretty much all I have to say on the matter.

[SKANKFUNK]

Do you think that women should have the same rights and should be treated equally as men?

Then you are a feminist. End of story. It's surprising how many lunkheads get this wrong and confuse it to extremists.

They should just call it "Gender Equality" at this point... xD

[Remz]

It's really a shame that many people (this includes both men and women) appear to think that 'feminist' is synonymous with 'bra burning lunatic bitch that hates men' when the large majority of them are really far from that. Speaking on a bare-bones level, if you think that men and women should have equal social, political, and economic rights, then you might as well consider yourself a feminist.

Don't roll your eyes and ignore someone every time feminism is brought up during an issue. You might be closing off something worth seeing.

Yeah basically this. I can't even talk about stuff like this with people because of this attitude. I consider myself on the feminist side, or at least as far as males can be when comes to stuff like this, but due to social standards I can't really use the word, because it's associated with the lunacy.

yiikes.

[Needler]

What the hell? I tried to be genuine and my post gets deleted. I already apologized. Just find it in your hearts to forgive me. I'll contribute to the topic!!

[Snads Squishmitten]

It's more the fact that you're still not contributing to the thread yet, even your apology hasn't added anything on topic

[Needler]

Well then here's my contribution. Feminism does not exist. It's stupid to think that people actually care about the greater good of a certain group. All the ideas behind feminism revolve around selfishness. People are only trying to make things work out for themselves and it's a lot easier to do that by associating themselves with a group that has similar ideas. I don't believe this applies to only feminism. That goes for all social groups. If you want to make a difference, by all means do it. But don't try to look for a bunch of buddies that feel the same way to hide the fact that you're only trying to make your own life better (I'm not calling anyone out in particular). This is how I feel. Now please direct yourself to the signature down below.

[Diogenes]

It's stupid to think that people actually care about the greater good of a certain group.

Pro tip: Not everyone is a sociopath.

[LunarEdge]

I believe in equal rights for everyone... black or white, male or female, jew or christian. But I also feel that despite how I personally feel about equality, we will never achieve due to "standards" set by society.

Example:

I want equal rights for everyone, everyone to be treated the same and whatnot. But yet, A woman can hit me but it's wrong for me (a man) to strike a woman?

Kind of a extreme example, but still my point

[Needler]

Pro tip: Not everyone is a sociopath.

Yeah, you're right. It's difficult for a lot of people to accept.

[Phos]

Relevant?

I can't help but think the stigma around the term "feminism" might have something to do with the similarity to "racism", as though it might carry the impression that a feminist is seeking to demonstrate and or enforce matriarchal superiority.

Edited by Phos, 09 August 2012 - 04:15 AM.

[Discoid]

If you want to make a difference, by all means do it. But don't try to look for a bunch of buddies that feel the same way to hide the fact that you're only trying to make your own life better (I'm not calling anyone out in particular). This is how I feel. Now please direct yourself to the signature down below.

Yeah, screw him for only trying to make his own life better. What a jerk.

[Snads Squishmitten]

I want equal rights for everyone, everyone to be treated the same and whatnot. But yet, A woman can hit me but it's wrong for me (a man) to strike a woman?

That's a social misconception, a woman doesn't have the right to hit you and is subject to the law if she does.

Of course there are quite a lot of controversial things surrounding this whole issue