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[Felix]

Eh, I don't like this show AT ALL.

[VizardJeffhog]

And... spam posts aren't exactly encouraged, dude. This is a thread to discuss the show, not coming in to say "I DON'T LIKE IT" and leave.

[Wolfy]

Eh, I don't like this show AT ALL.

That's cool, but you're not helping anything in this topic with spam like that. Maybe if you post a level-headed reason why that'd be cool, but this doesn't fly man.

[Stritix]

I don't like it either. I don't see why everyone adores it so much. I mean, it's a show aimed at 4 year old girls.

I watched 2 episodes of the show, and it baffles me. The story itself isn't that bad, but the way it's executed is awful. It's very unbalanced. Not the slightest bit of negativity is allowed. Not the slightest. To the point where the evil villian is captured within the first 2 episodes, and turns into a hero 30 seconds after being defeated... illogical.

Could a fan of the show please explain the appeal to me?

[Phantomime]

Again, the first two episodes are REALLY different and actually rather bad compared to the rest of the show. It's actually for the most part a slice of life comedy with magical wackiness.



Also, in her later appearance, Luna (the villain) is awesome and funny and IS QUEEN OF CAPS LOCK. Don't diss. B|

[elementofchaos]

It's very unbalanced. Not the slightest bit of negativity is allowed. Not the slightest.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here. Yes, conflict in each episode is usually solved by the end, but that's kind of the whole point. It's a show about friendship, so of course it's going to be about working through conflict among friends instead of DRAMAAAAAAA.

To the point where the evil villian is captured within the first 2 episodes, and turns into a hero 30 seconds after being defeated... illogical.

First of all, it's a cartoon, not to mention a cartoon about colourful talking ponies. Logic? What's that?

Second of all, Luna/Nightmare Moon is literally the only true villain in the series to go through this. Both the major villains in Season Two were defeated without being redeemed, because they are both explicitly irredeemable. Other antagonists, such as Gilda, also went without redemption, instead leaving town.

Honestly, the first two episodes are the only ones where the antagonist was befriended, which is kind of funny considering what this show is about.

Edited by ElementofChaos7, 22 April 2012 - 03:38 AM.

[Stritix]

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here. Yes, conflict in each episode is usually solved by the end, but that's kind of the whole point. It's a show about friendship, so of course it's going to be about working through conflict among friends instead of DRAMAAAAAAA.



First of all, it's a cartoon, not to mention a cartoon about colourful talking ponies. Logic? What's that?

It's something that makes a decent storyline.

I never mentioned drama. Not once. Literally nothing goes wrong. It's all sugar and rainbows. It's basically a cartoon version of the Teletubbies.

Again, the first two episodes are REALLY different and actually rather bad compared to the rest of the show. It's actually for the most part a slice of life comedy with magical wackiness.



Also, in her later appearance, Luna (the villain) is awesome and funny and IS QUEEN OF CAPS LOCK. Don't diss. B|

Oh. I understand. I should watch more episodes? If so, roughly when does it start getting more interesting? If it's just a few episodes, great. I don't want to sit through a whole season.

[AdventChild]

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Okay, seen the finale and liked it, well, most of the second part with the changelings and that fight. It had a nice Disney-esque feel and had its fair share of moments. As for Cadence and Shining Armor, I felt indifferent towards both of them esp. with Cadence because the only things known about her was she being Twi's foalsitter and marrying Twi's brother. Oh and something about loving tiaras from something awhile back, but eh. Also, indifferent for Shining Armor yet slightly more interesting, maybe some more background. They might probably return, but if they don't I wouldn't mind.

As for the songs, they were alright, I guess. The plot was pretty much predictable and the ending was anti-climatic with the whole "power of love conquers all thing" and as someone said this would have benefited of being a three parter like with MMMystery Express could have benefited being a two-parter. For some more development. Also, Twilight was good in this but comes off slightly annoying at times. Though I would have thought that Celestia would be powerful enough to see through the changeling ruse, but then no plot obviously. The part I liked the most was the fight with the changelings. Though with the changelings designs, I think it would have been awesome if there was a KH reference or KH elements thrown into the mix as if they were Heartless. Would like to see the changelings again as I found them slightly more interesting than the product-placement couple. Heck, I would take the changeling toys over them any day.

Overall, I find this to be slightly above average. I find it better than the episode before this, but still could have used some more development with the plot and characters if pushed towards a three-parter.

Thinking about it some more, throughout season 2, we've discovered more about Canterlot along with a few other places. So I'm hoping for more world building, such as, finally getting an episode with a beach or ocean setting, traveling to Trottingham, going into Taurus, etc. Basically an around the world Equestria-style or Road Trip season with more episodes in new places.

Edited by AdventChild, 22 April 2012 - 04:00 AM.

[King Sombrero]

The first 2 episodes definitely give the feeling that it's gonna be sailor moon style, but isn't. I'd recommend lesson zero or applebuck season to get a good feel for it. I also liked it since episode 1 but didn't want to admit it, never once does it do anything Telletubies does. at all.

[Tornado]

Literally nothing goes wrong. It's all sugar and rainbows. It's basically a cartoon version of the Teletubbies.

That's not true. Like, at all.


Every single episode of the show has conflict. They just vary in scope, with most of them being small-scale character-driven storylines and generally only the bookend episodes being dramatic.




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Twilight, WHY U GET RID OF THEM?

Edited by Tornado, 22 April 2012 - 06:30 AM.

[Gammy-kins]

This show is pretty awesome and funny. Dang, watching this makes me feel happy. I think I laughed a little more than some other shows or it's even. I dunno

[VizardJeffhog]

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Kinda hoping for a tag-team of these two as a Season 3 premiere, since we know John De Lancie is coming back.

[Strickerx5]

It's something that makes a decent storyline.

I never mentioned drama. Not once. Literally nothing goes wrong. It's all sugar and rainbows. It's basically a cartoon version of the Teletubbies.


Oh. I understand. I should watch more episodes? If so, roughly when does it start getting more interesting? If it's just a few episodes, great. I don't want to sit through a whole season.

Well I guess it depends on the sort of "conflict" your looking for. If your here for a dark and over all serious plot then I'll tell you right now this isn't the show for you. Each episode does indeed have a conflict but people need to keep in mind that this is a show (franchise) aimed for little kids, not people 13+. In fact, the team behind it probably wasn't even aware that bronys even existed before most of season one was finished and season 2 was already well underway. The reason why people like it is that it doesn't follow the route people expected it to. It isn't in fact all sugar and rainbows. It actually has character development and well told narratives (not to mention animation and music). If your comparing this to something like Teletubbies then you must of been watching a previous generation. Now trust me when I say I realize the show isn't for everyone and thats perfectly find; but I really think you should check out S1EP3, S1EP10, S1EP25, S2EP3, S2EP4, or S2EP14 (original) just to get a good feel about it before you decide. Heck, you might even want to check out the season finale that just aired; it might just be up your alley in terms of conflict. Of course there are a lot more great ones in there, but those are the ones that come to mind for great starters.


Now about dat finale...

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Hot damn that was great! Sethisto nailed it when he compared it to disney in terms of feel. Now I won't go into detail about it all (you guys have done a great job of that), but I will say that they probably couldn't of ended this season better. In fact, it'll be interesting to see how they can live up to this for next season. I'm not all that worried though, I thought Lesson Zero and Luna Eclipsed was going to be this shows crowning gems but boy was I wrong. These 2 episodes took everything to a new level. The animation, music... everything, especially the way the story was told! It just shows that a more serious story can be told without losing the feel the show gives out. I also have got to give a bit more credit to that animation. Literally everything was fluid and detailed. Plus the way everything was shaded also gave it a certain fill of quality that far surpassed anything put out thus far. Oh, and "This Day Aria" was just too phenomenal for words. The way it fit perfectly with the high quality animation just added to its brilliance (you could also say that for the other two songs as well). It might just even be my new favorite so far.

Overall, both these two episodes are definitely in my top 5 out of the entire series so far. I've never seen something so well made for TV animation, and the fact that its made with flash also just adds to the aww. Though this was a perfect way to end the season I did notice some flaws. One of them being how the other mane 5 reacted to Twilight's reasonings. I know its a bit of a nit pick but the moral they learned was almost the exact same one they learned in episode 10 of season 1 and again in episode 3 of 2. Its really is lesson number zero one . I also noticed some animation errors. One of them being with Applejack during the scene with them running towards the elements while being bombarded by the enemy. Whenever the camera cuts away and comes back AJ at different points is either running with her hat on or off. The other one is a bit more major; how could they have derped on this. Look at this picture and guess whats wrong...

To the far right, Derpy's eyes are normal! Now thats just silly!

Also:


Discord confirmed for season 3.

[Katzii]

Again, the first two episodes are REALLY different and actually rather bad compared to the rest of the show. It's actually for the most part a slice of life comedy with magical wackiness.

I actually have to go the opposite way and say that I've always preferred the two-parter episodes to the regular standalone episodes, especially during Season 2 where I saw far more of the Cutie Mark Crusaders (my least favourite characters

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who totally didn't need that end bit in the last episode, although thank God they didn't talk

) than I wanted to. The two-parters bring a lot more excitement and drama for me than the regular episodes.

I guess the show isn't necessarily about "excitement and drama" all the time, though (even though to my recollection, the original vision of Season 1 was to not have Nightmare Moon defeated right from the off), and I appreciate that they want to go for a more "everyday life" kind of thing. There was a nice little string of continuity through the first season that I liked with the whole gala thing, which I didn't feel was as strong through Season 2 (mainly because they were too busy trying to cram as many horrible Cutie Mark Crusader episodes in as possible).

As for the finale? It wasn't bad, although I would say the only "Disney-like" thing about it was the fact that there were a fair few musical numbers. As much as it's going to pain all of you My Little Pony fans, the animation quality, while good, is nowhere near up to Disney standards. But then I'm more of a casual fan than anything hardcore, so maybe you guys see something that I don't.

[Metal Gear (sting)RAY]

What does "Mi Amore Cadenza" even mean? "My love of rhythm?"

[elementofchaos]

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While I loved this finale, unlike "Best Night Ever", it was less of a mane six episode and more of a Twilight + her brother and Cadence episode. That's not necessarily a bad thing, I just expected the finale to be more mane six-based. Not that they all didn't get their awesome moments though, from the battles with their "doppelgangers" to Rainbow Dash's Rainboom! /)^3^(\

Something I noticed...you know how the Changelings apparently run off of "feeding" on feelings of love? Notice how when the mane six fight those Changelings, they are able to transform into doppelgangers of...well, the mane six. Compare to how the Queen was able to disguise herself as Cadence by feeding off of Shining Armor's love.Mane six is best ship! Or...you know, just familial love. Either way. >.>

Edited by ElementofChaos7, 22 April 2012 - 07:22 AM.

[Metal Gear (sting)RAY]

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Antagonists like Chrysalis interest me because the only "evil" thing about them is their general behavior. She acts deceptive and sadistic, but if you ignore her personality and isolate her ends and circumstances, she was simply being a responsible leader, trying to harvest a resource that her people needed to live. Maybe changelings only act aggressively and callously because they have to suppress the guilt that would come with enacting upon their physiological requirement to steal love from the lives of ponies.

[Applejack1973]

The best parts for me was bigger roles for AJ, the return of Luna, epic villains and the songs.

But I wanted the party as a third part episode and not that rushed ending.

And now to hype all summer for season 3!

Well that's the power of love.

Edited by Applejack1973, 22 April 2012 - 12:24 PM.

[Nald From Never Lake]

What does "Mi Amore Cadenza" even mean? "My love of rhythm?"

Well, it's a mix between Italian and Spanish. Sometimes I'm baffled at english-speakers and their inabilty to recognize the difference between them.
By the way, the correct Italian form would be " Il Mio Amore Brisura", while the correct Spanish one would be "mi amor brisada", if I'm not mistaken. I think it means "My Love of Cadency", Cadency being any systematic way of distinguishing similar coats of arms belonging to members of the same family. Or at least, that's what Wikipedia says.

Edit: Yeah, I discovered that Cadenza is not the Italian word used for Cadency. We say "Brisura". Spanish-speakers don't use it either.
Then again...Cadenza in italian means rhythm. They probably thought that it was also the word used for Cadency. A false friend, if you will. I can sympathize with them. It's an understandable error.

Edited by Azure Nald, 22 April 2012 - 12:14 PM.

[Lemanic]

I never mentioned drama. Not once. Literally nothing goes wrong. It's all sugar and rainbows. It's basically a cartoon version of the Teletubbies.

Well, this show is a refreshment. Like ice cold water on a hot summer day. Me being absolutely tired of the king of pubecent cynicism; Seth McFarlanes works at this point, thinks that this is development at it's finest. No fart jokes as long as the eyes can see. Good!
It's like watching Daria. It makes you smarter every episode.

FiM is there with Desperate Housewives, Gossip Girl, Sex & the City, SMASH and other female-oriented shows with a gender mixed audience.