State of Emergency in Paris - 11/13/15 - Terrorist Attacks

[Tara]

The appalling lack of tact the American news media has is... well, appalling.  This wouldn't be so bad if it were actually informative, but right now, Fox and CNN are doing nothing but fear-mongering

Some people on Twitter have recommended BBC over CNN, but I think that's a UK only channel?  Anyway, that might be more worth your time if you want to keep up to date on the crisis.

Edited November 14, 2015 by Tara

[Mauro Fonseca]

So no knowledge about the attackers, then? Well, it's far, far more important to stop them first, then try to figure it out, but obviously knowing the organization (if there is one) is certainly important.

There's obvious rumours going around- some French and German TV saying they were shouting "for Syria" and "allahu akbar". Nothing's been officially confirmed though, which is for the best so far, probably; it's also genuinely not a bad guess though, especially when you realise this is basically the Hebdo attack on steroids.

 

There's circa 7 locations confirmed, I think, but the focus in reporting has been obviously on the Stadium and the Concert Hall, and then for some reason one Restaurant near the Stadium.

 

EDIT: Tara, BBC broadcasts online. Go with that.

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-34815972

Here's the France24 English feed too

http://www.france24.com/en/livefeed

 

Edited November 14, 2015 by The KKM

[Dizcrybe]

You can get BBC in the States with cable.

[Tracker_TD]

A few independent sources are popping up on my Twitter suggesting the Calais Jungle /is/ burning again now, 

[Mauro Fonseca]

ANSA agency apparently confirms that ISIS claims authority of the attacks through a magazine they have?, I see in some Portuguese tweets

"Estado Islâmico reivindica ataques de Paris através da secção francesa sua revista de propaganda Dabiq (agência ANSA)"

Islamic State claims Paris attacks through the French section of their propaganda magazine Dabiq (ANSA news agency).

I'll try to check on this.

Edited November 14, 2015 by The KKM

[Tara]

EDIT: Tara, BBC broadcasts online. Go with that.

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-34815972

Here's the France24 English feed too

http://www.france24.com/en/livefeed

 

Thanks a bunch!

You can get BBC in the States with cable.

It's under a paywall for me, for some reason, apparently.

[Mauro Fonseca]

http://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/mondo/2015/11/13/tre-sparatorie-a-parigi-vittime_1a91057f-5905-49e3-8d4a-592668bf11cc.html

 

Anyone good enough with Italian to confirm that this says what I said above, that ISIS claims authority calling this the French 9/11 through their propaganda mag?

 

EDIT:

Calais IS burning, then. The refugee camp, I mean.

 

 

Edited November 14, 2015 by The KKM

[Teoskaven]

http://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/mondo/2015/11/13/tre-sparatorie-a-parigi-vittime_1a91057f-5905-49e3-8d4a-592668bf11cc.html

 

Anyone good enough with Italian to confirm that this says what I said above, that ISIS claims authority calling this the French 9/11 through their propaganda mag?

Apparently so; they're also claiming Rome as one of their next objectives.

Funnily enough, they did so for months and months, but each time they got ridicolized by either blantant grammar errors or by the fact that Rome is a city so busy, moving inside of it in any kind of organized way is fucking impossible.

[Tara]

So this is an ISIS operation?

While I don't retract my statements about fear-mongering, I'll concede that, if this is true, then I guess the preemptive accusations were correct.

[Failinhearts]

This is really, really depressing.

I don't know what to say, really... I know nobody from France but it's still horrible to know that innocent people are being killed by such heartless bastards. I will pray for the people of France, for this is terrible news.

[Tara]

Couple of updates, both from BBC's feed.

A total of five killers may be dead so far.  Fucking FIVE.

Also, the German football team is still stuck at the Stadium that was attacked.  Here's hoping they are brought to safety soon!

Edited November 14, 2015 by Tara

[Kaze no Klonoa]

Good news, all members of the Eagles of Death Metal (the US band playing at the hall) have been confirmed to be safe.

http://www.laweekly.com/music/update-all-eagles-of-death-metal-members-reported-to-be-safe-6277122

[NoirSuede]

 

Also, the German football team is still stuck at the Stadium that was attacked.  Here's hoping they are brought to safety soon!

Hmm, are the terrorists specifically gunning for a football team just like with the 2009 Ritz Carlton bombing ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Jakarta_bombings

[jonjon99]

This is really terrifying. While I personally do not know anyone from Paris, I hope that everyone will manage to stay safe.

What kind of sick person would do such a thing? 

[Tara]

Hmm, are the terrorists specifically gunning for a football team just like with the 2009 Ritz Carlton bombing ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Jakarta_bombings

As far as we know so far, the attacks have been pretty indiscriminate.  No known target of choice, which is what makes it all the more confusing.

[Kaze no Klonoa]

Some more good news, no casualties from the police during the Bataclan raid

Press are stating that the streets are a lot more quiet now, it's definitely died down. Still a mad hunt tho, stay safe

[Mauro Fonseca]

The scariest part is that from what I heard on Portuguese TV, Daesh claimed the attack as a retaliation against a French operation in Syria... that happened today. Now, this is most likely some grandstanding, but if not, means they were ready enough to react in hours in a very organized manner.

[Inkling Cooper]

That's definitely a relief. I fel so sorry for everyone in Paris right now.

[ZDozer]

About that ISIS thing...

I may be diving in some wacky conspiracy theory here (well, according to my recent status, my brain is already in BSoD, and my mind is sure reeling from the terrorist attack news), but isn't these things... things that could, you know, trigger a world war? Ya know, last time we had an ethnic cleansing thing on a worldwide scale, for what I remember, it was called Adolf Hitler.

Edited November 14, 2015 by ZDozer

[Mauro Fonseca]

You had bigger ethnic cleansings after Hitler, just none so organized.

 

Regardless, no conspiracy theory there, it IS the kind of thing that'd have caused a world war before. Nowadays most states are too agglomerated in economical treaties to be able to have a World War- you'd need to dissolve the UN, NATO, etc.

[NoirSuede]

About that ISIS thing...

I may be diving in some wacky conspiracy theory here (well, according to my recent status, my brain is already in BSoD, and my mind is sure reeling from the terrorist attack news), but isn't these things... things that could, you know, trigger a world war? Ya know, last time we had an ethnic cleansing thing on a worldwide scale, for what I remember, it was called Adolf Hitler.

Well it's not like a major nation's supporting them, and ISIS doesn't have the firepower to do it themselves (if they have then they would've captured Syria already), so no it won't start another World War unless Arab decides to help out ISIS for some reason

[ZDozer]

I wonder if things like those attacks could make the US form an "enemy mine" alliance with Russia in order to hit ISIS.

[Mauro Fonseca]

No because of Syria. Even if both the US, or the West in general, and Russia take military action against ISIS, the West does so in spite of being against Erdogan while Russia does it supposedly because they're allies of Erdogan. Syria blocks any political union.

[KHCast]

Apparently I'm hearing ISIS is threatening London and Washington, D.C.. That true?

[ZDozer]

There has been a wacky video saying something like that.