[Dusk the Alan Wake Keeper]

http://www.computera...e.php?id=239411

A new interview with Mike Hayes, the president of SEGA of Europe and America (right?) went in an interview with CVG today, Anyways, it seems in the interview SEGA thinks Sonic is split up into 4 parts. First you have the Mario & Sonic component, which though strange I kinda' guess makes sense. He then says the other parts of Sonic are Sonic solo titles, like Unleashed, Secret Rings, and Sonic 4 I guess. Then there's the All-Star Titles, another weird inclusion but I guess it makes sense. Finally, he says something we haven't seen in a while, but team-centric games like Sonic Heroes.

SEGA says those are the four type of games they want to develop, but they don't want to overdo Sonic so they are laying them out separately and apart in a marketing strategy. He also hints that we may see something E3 and talks about the core of Sonic and finding it in Sonic 4 while delivering to hardcore fans in the DLC market since DLC games are usually more hardcore audiences and they can appeal more through that medium.

Interesting, to say the least.

[Glenn]

So, to be a proper hardcore Sonic fan, I have to have unlimited high-speed broadband? Thanks a bunch.

I'll go along with another Sonic Heroes, mind, especially since I never properly finished the first one and have always wanted to go back and do so. News of a forthcoming, for want of a better title, Sonic Heroes 2 might spur me on to return and get all those damned Chaos Emeralds!

[JezMM]

Sonic Heroes was fine as a concept but goddamn they better learn from their mistakes if they're making another one. No more health bars on enemies (if you want minibosses have minibosses but the easiest enemy to beat should not have a health bar), and be a bit more creative than just simply assigning level gimmicks to different formations. Let us think a little if you must mix up the gameplay a bit.

[Jimmy Kudo]

Wow, that's a rather nice find you've got there.

I'd be all for a Heroes 2 if they find a team play system that doesn't suck. Saying that, Heroes was a pretty decent game and had a wonderful "retro, but in 3D" feel to it. Hopefully they'd carry that over, y'know IF a Heroes 2 comes around.

Speaking of upcoming Sonic games though, I'm far more interested in a Sonic Rush 3.

[MarcelloF]

Not to sound like an asshole, but who wanted them to bring back team work gameplay? I only see complaining about it ...

And I'd also rather see a Sonic Rush 3, because of Blaze...

[JezMM]

MarcelloF, on 17 March 2010 - 03:34 PM, said:

Not to sound like an asshole, but who wanted them to bring back team work gameplay? I only see complaining about it ...

It wasn't the teamplay that was the problem but the general quality - particularly control and level design. All the levels were set over vast bottomless pits and could often be overly long or repetitive, not to mention flow breaking with all the enemies that took ages to beat - sometimes even after leveling up. Combine all the hazards with cumbersome controls (the characters often handled like they were on ice, turned too sharply to control, and grinding was horrendous) and it makes for a very exhausting game to squeeze fun out of.

I think many would agree that the first few levels were the best - they were forgiving. Later on in the game the levels were just too difficult to manage along with the silly controls.

[Dusk the Alan Wake Keeper]

Besides, they just say Team Centric like Heroes, it doesn't mean this is exactly Heroes 2, just for all intents and purposes what we can call it. If they fixed up the gameplay style, a Heroes 2 could be potentially great, since the idea of teamwork, while we have seen to produce cheesy lines, is not that bad of a mechanic. It actually felt natural once you got the hang of it, they could even change the gameplay style up. It has been 6 years.

This post has been edited by Dusk the Biohazard Keeper: 17 March 2010 - 03:39 PM

[Flyboy Fox]

I'd be all for a Heroes 2. I loved that game - my favourite 'modern' Sonic title even, I'd say. I loved the way the teams worked.

[SykoTech]

That was a really good read.

It was quite cool to hear him mention Streets of Rage first when asked about which IP to "bring out of the locker". Wish Jet Set Radio would have gotten a mention.

As for a new "teamwork" Sonic game, I really hope they fix their mistakes with Heroes. The concept was fine with me, but I hated how they tried to cram in so many characters and have them go through the same levels in virtually the same way. I'd hope they just stick with Team Sonic (or whoever Sonic is with), concentrate on polishing them to perfection, and make more levels.

And more interesting things to do please. Flight to go up a hill and Power to break a rock is hardly inspiring.

More M&S games is pretty obvious. But with the Olympics over, here's hoping the next game is something more interesting.

This post has been edited by Tentomon: 17 March 2010 - 03:54 PM

[Shadzter]

Only just noticed you posted this interview here Dusk, I went and posted it in the Sonic 4 board for the Sonic 4 bits of the interview without knowing you had posted it here

[Eternlo]

Ooooooooooooooooo, Sonic Heroes 2, maybe they could add Silver and Blaze, like a story of the two of them finaly meeting (since Sonic 06 doesnt exist in the normal time line), and someone else. i had a story idea for Silver and Blaze, but it spand across Adventure 1, 2, Heroes, and a Shadow the Hedgehog that actually made sense and didnt suck.

Hmm who would be Silver, and Blazes 3rd team mate?

This post has been edited by Eternlo: 17 March 2010 - 04:08 PM

[Nerd Bear]

I'd rather have not a Heroes 2, but another game that has many playable characters with some emphasis on team-work.

[Torcano]

I wouldnt mind a Heroes 2. Or a Heroes-esque game. As long as they fixed up everything that was wrong with Heroes.
Level design, script, gameplay, ect.

[Indigo Rush]

I always thought the series should be split into 4 main categories, plus spinoffs...

1 - 2D Retro (Classic games)
2 - 2D Rush (2D Boosting games)
3 - 3D Adventure (3D platforming games)
4 - 3D Unleashed (3D Boosting games)


Spinoffs...

1 - Mario and Sonic (minigames)
2 - Spinoffs (Like Shadow, or Knuckles)
3 - Riders (racing games)
4 - Sonic and SEGA All Stars (sports games)
5 - Spinball (You know you want another one...)
6 - Chronicles (RPG games)
7 - Storybook Series (misc. trash ware)

[MarcelloF]

Tentomon, on 17 March 2010 - 04:52 PM, said:

As for a new "teamwork" Sonic game, I really hope they fix their mistakes with Heroes. The concept was fine with me, but I hated how they tried to cram in so many characters and have them go through the same levels in virtually the same way. I'd hope they just stick with Team Sonic (or whoever Sonic is with), concentrate on polishing them to perfection, and make more levels.

But, I want my Team Chaotix :-/. I'd like to have all the teams from Heroes, besides maybe Rose, even though I like all three characters there, but the other 3 are a bit more interesting when they are together.

Eternlo, on 17 March 2010 - 05:06 PM, said:

Ooooooooooooooooo, Sonic Heroes 2, maybe they could add Silver and Blaze, like a story of the two of them finaly meeting (since Sonic 06 doesnt exist in the normal time line), and someone else. i had a story idea for Silver and Blaze, but it spand across Adventure 1, 2, Heroes, and a Shadow the Hedgehog that actually made sense and didnt suck.

Hmm who would be Silver, and Blazes 3rd team mate?

NOOOOOOO. Please no . I don'T want Silver and Blaze to know each other.

I'm sure your idea isn't bad, but I just want Blaze to be Blaze from Rush, without Silver, but with Marine and stuff. Blaz shoud stick to her game series for now.

[ilcane87]

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Then you've got something we haven't seen for a while, which is like Sonic Heroes, multiplay-type game.

Uhm, by the way he worded it, I don't think he specifically refers to the teamwork system of Sonic Heroes, but rather to the multiple playing styles of different characters in the same game, reminding me of the Sonic Adventure/Sonic'06 games.

Obviously Sonic Heroes applies as well, having 3 different gameplay styles; you happen to have them at the same time, but it doesn't look like he was refering to that feature.

This post has been edited by ilcane87: 17 March 2010 - 04:33 PM

[Eternlo]

MarcelloF, on 17 March 2010 - 04:25 PM, said:

NOOOOOOO. Please no . I don'T want Silver and Blaze to know each other.

I'm sure your idea isn't bad, but I just want Blaze to be Blaze from Rush, without Silver, but with Marine and stuff. Blaz shoud stick to her game series for now.

I can understand why you wouldent want them to meet, but I ment like she would still be the blaze from rush, but silver would be a little more chearful, and alot less anoying at least my silver would.

Think the guy that came from the future to save sarah in trminator,or his obvious source of insperation, future trunks.

[The Soldier]

JezMM, on 17 March 2010 - 11:28 AM, said:

Sonic Heroes was fine as a concept but goddamn they better learn from their mistakes if they're making another one. No more health bars on enemies (if you want minibosses have minibosses but the easiest enemy to beat should not have a health bar), and be a bit more creative than just simply assigning level gimmicks to different formations. Let us think a little if you must mix up the gameplay a bit.

Yes. God knows we don't want to beat the same game 4 times with the only thing changing is a degree of difficulty.

But he never said Sonic Heroes 2- he just said it was a multiplay-type game like Sonic Heroes, which is enough to frighten me, but it's not a confirmed Heroes 2. Still, I can't help but find this worrying.

[Dusk the Alan Wake Keeper]

ilcane87, on 17 March 2010 - 09:32 AM, said:

Uhm, by the way he worded it, I don't think he specifically refers to the teamwork system of Sonic Heroes, but rather to the multiple playing styles of different characters in the same game, reminding me of the Sonic Adventure/Sonic'06 games.

Obviously Sonic Heroes applies as well, having 3 different gameplay styles; you happen to have them at the same time, but it doesn't look like he was refering to that feature.

I thought that at first too, but then they didn't mention any of the other games that've done that since Sonic Heroes, and use team-based as a mechanic, not as different play styles. He says one we haven't seen in quite some time, then says Heroes, which might mean that but games like Adventure are not Team-Based, those are different characters in different gameplay styles, those don't work like teams. Sonic Heroes is a game where the characters were indeed in teams.

[ilcane87]

Dusk the Biohazard Keeper, on 17 March 2010 - 06:53 PM, said:

I thought that at first too, but then they didn't mention any of the other games that've done that since Sonic Heroes, and use team-based as a mechanic, not as different play styles. He says one we haven't seen in quite some time, then says Heroes, which might mean that but games like Adventure are not Team-Based, those are different characters in different gameplay styles, those don't work like teams. Sonic Heroes is a game where the characters were indeed in teams.

I think Heroes is the first example that came to his mind, but "multiplay-type game" doesn't mean "teamplay-type game", so I don't think we can take this interview as a hint for a possible upcoming Heroes 2.