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[Fairfieldfencer]

Looking forward to the new issues.

[Mega]

I'm a "the video games are the only REAL Sonic!" kind of a fan.

Way to be closed-minded. Much like with SatAM, the comics didn't have much of a story to work with, since SEGA of America didn't feel that the Japanese style would appeal to American children, so we just got the basic "Robotnik turns Sonic's friends to robots and wants to rule Mobius" premise. Furthermore, the game plots aren't always brilliant, and I think it's foolish to think that they're perfect. Not trying to be rude, but really. Plus, the Adventure elements didn't come in until 1999; the cartoons and comics started in '93.

Sorry if this derails the topic, but I really hate when people say that kind of things. B|

As for Archie itself, I only really have read a few of the newer issues, and they kind of bug me. It's mainly the fact that they keep offing and introducing characters and, to me, it feels like they're focusing too much on fighting rather than plot and characterization.

[Toby Barrett]

I'd rather read about the characters fighting Eggman and other threats than see slumber parties and Sonic angstily wailing at the moon on his geetar.

[roxannihilation]

I'd rather read about the characters fighting Eggman and other threats than see slumber parties and Sonic angstily wailing at the moon on his geetar.

Hahahah, I hear ya, I hear ya.

Mind you I take every universe into consideration in the Sonic series, and I believe that every universe is canon to a point in association to the games. Sega is even starting to accept other American-based canon. As for me, I do enjoy the Archie stories and SatAM storylines for providing an attempt at some solid depth to the ideas.

[Mega]

Characterization doesn't have to be OOC angst, though. It can be anything about the characters and their developments, really. o.o; I just can't see Sonic angsting about anyway; being upset, maybe, not not to a point where it'd be OMG ANGST. I'd just like to see more than fighting, fighting, and more fighting.

Edited by Mega, 07 March 2009 - 05:20 PM.

[Immortheus]

Don't think this has been posted yet, but some small versions of the covers for Sonic the Hedgehog #201 and Sonic Universe #5 have been relased... (spoilers, naturally)

http://us.st12.yimg....cs_2044_6354699
http://us.st12.yimg....cs_2044_5422168

[Annie-Mae]

Spoiler

Oh Great, return of the Sonic/Sally clones. Not that I don't like Sonic/Sally, I just don't like their kids.

Rouge/Knux kids would creep me out too but I like the paring better then Knux/Julie. Plus Son/Amy is a more logical relationship, because Sonic's nature wouldn't allow him to be tied down like that.

Spoiler

I thought that future was altered? I guess we're going to find what happened.

Might take back my opinions about Universe if they're going to do a lot of heavy tie-in's to Sonic's comic like this rather then picking random characters to fallow around.

[Snatcher2047]

Question... did anyone here have a subscription to the SONIC X series and if so, does it get transferred to the UNIVERSE series? Just curious, because I haven't gotten a copy of UNIVERSE #1 yet.

[Johnny Sasaki]

angst in a sonic comic seems okay in small doses but that doesn't mean it should all be FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT even back in the first comics there was a little character building when it was all those mini stories.

[Mega]

I don't really see how SonAmy is logical for Archie? I mean, Archie is based on SatAM, and Amy wasn't really established in that comic until after Sonic and Sally were established as close friends at least, not to mention characters who have known each other since childhood. I haven't read all of the comic, but Amy, regardless of 'verse, has always struck me as having a crush...but not much more than that.

Not to start pairing debates or anything.

EDIT: I do wish that they would have been more creative with the kids, though. Their designs are so bland. :/

Edited by Mega, 07 March 2009 - 08:14 PM.

[Kyoryu Aqua]

it's been made perfectly clear at this point that as long as Ian Flynn is head writer, than Sonic/Sally will only be in the MXYL series. I can dig that too. Not to slide Sonic/Sally, but Sonic doesn't seem like the committing type to me.

I'm perfectly fine with the constant action. That's what goes on in the games, right? Unless you wanna read about Sonic running through loops and stuff.

Also, the book's called Sonic UNIVERSE. I'm glad things like the MXYL series are being kept there instead of the main issue. Plus, apparently that particular series is amazingly popular. Once again, it's a case of a very vocal minority of haters, against the silent majority of spenders. The latter always wins. Always.

[DarkNoise]

I'm sorry, but I cannot see the appeal in MxYL and the idea of Sonic Universe itself seems pointless and dull. I was going to give it a little chance, but the second I saw #5 cover I lost all faith in Archie.

[Toby Barrett]

I dislike the future stories as much as the next person, but melodramatic about it aren't ya'll? XD

[Kyoryu Aqua]

but the second I saw #5 cover I lost all faith in Archie.

Hi there. Your rage is misguided. It's the FANS that you need to lose faith in, because Archie is only catering to them.

[Annie-Mae]

I don't really see how SonAmy is logical for Archie? I mean, Archie is based on SatAM, and Amy wasn't really established in that comic until after Sonic and Sally were established as close friends at least, not to mention characters who have known each other since childhood. I haven't read all of the comic, but Amy, regardless of 'verse, has always struck me as having a crush...but not much more than that.

Not to start pairing debates or anything.

EDIT: I do wish that they would have been more creative with the kids, though. Their designs are so bland. :/

Agreed that this all about Sonic/Sally stuff, but the games are seeming to pushing Amy and Sonic closer together, and in the long run, what Sonic Team does out trumps Archie's story. Most of the only people who are hard core Son/Sally are the older fans, and the comics are made for kids, and the kids play the new games, and if Sonic and Amy become an item, then MXYL will have to change to Son/Amy.

Or Not! but it wouldn't hurt to see the Son/Amy future of it all. My main reasons for not liking the MXYL is just Sonic being tied down like that, and the fascination of Son/Sal is dead because we see what it's going to look like in the end. It ends up being more bureaucratic drama, and Sonic torn between wanting to running out and save the world and Sally telling him he needs to be in the kingdom. And I'm glad the boring child designs bother other people too. I mean, it'd be more interesting to see a brown Sonic with red hair and a blue Sally, or something more clever then clones. But they can't change it now, it was the mistake of someone else that the new writers have to deal with.

If what I'm seeing though is these MXYL focus around Knuckles' daughter, so it is possible that we'll be seeing little of Sonic's kids after this issue. This Shadow side story is still interesting so I'll be reading the books up until then.

[Kyoryu Aqua]

I don't really see how SonAmy is logical for Archie? I mean, Archie is based on SatAM, and Amy wasn't really established in that comic until after Sonic and Sally were established as close friends at least, not to mention characters who have known each other since childhood. I haven't read all of the comic, but Amy, regardless of 'verse, has always struck me as having a crush...but not much more than that.

Not to start pairing debates or anything.

EDIT: I do wish that they would have been more creative with the kids, though. Their designs are so bland. :/

Agreed that this all about Sonic/Sally stuff, but the games are seeming to pushing Amy and Sonic closer together, and in the long run, what Sonic Team does out trumps Archie's story. Most of the only people who are hard core Son/Sally are the older fans, and the comics are made for kids, and the kids play the new games, and if Sonic and Amy become an item, then MXYL will have to change to Son/Amy.

Or Not! but it wouldn't hurt to see the Son/Amy future of it all. My main reasons for not liking the MXYL is just Sonic being tied down like that, and the fascination of Son/Sal is dead because we see what it's going to look like in the end. It ends up being more bureaucratic drama, and Sonic torn between wanting to running out and save the world and Sally telling him he needs to be in the kingdom. And I'm glad the boring child designs bother other people too. I mean, it'd be more interesting to see a brown Sonic with red hair and a blue Sally, or something more clever then clones. But they can't change it now, it was the mistake of someone else that the new writers have to deal with.

If what I'm seeing though is these MXYL focus around Knuckles' daughter, so it is possible that we'll be seeing little of Sonic's kids after this issue. This Shadow side story is still interesting so I'll be reading the books up until then.

The MXYL stories are only a possible future. Not THE future.

In fact, that future's been invalidated already. Locke was shown to have died of cancer or something, but recent issues have shown different.

[Annie-Mae]

The MXYL stories are only a possible future. Not THE future.

In fact, that future's been invalidated already. Locke was shown to have died of cancer or something, but recent issues have shown different.

Well see that's where the beef comes from. Besides obvious fan service, why do they keep going back to that future time line rather then just coming up with one of their own?

And when the issue comes out we're going to find out what is going on.

[Kyoryu Aqua]

The MXYL stories are only a possible future. Not THE future.

In fact, that future's been invalidated already. Locke was shown to have died of cancer or something, but recent issues have shown different.

Well see that's where the beef comes from. Besides obvious fan service, why do they keep going back to that future time line rather then just coming up with one of their own?

And when the issue comes out we're going to find out what is going on.

TBH, I think fan service is the only reason. It's the same stuff that got Tommy killed off for good, and I bet it had something to do with the Echidna genocide.

[Mega]

See, THAT is why I like Sally better in SatAM. I can't see SatAM's Sally as the sort to really settle down as queen, as she often says that her title is meaningless and never really speaks of ruling a Kingdom in that show, unlike Archie!Sal who seems to be tied by that responsibility of being a princess.

[Snatcher2047]

Well, that's the situation she's in now with her father back and her brother as current ruler. Before she was a rebel fighting for her people. Now that their kingdom is back in some form, she has to reassert herself as one of the royal family.