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#61 Kyoryu Aqua

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Posted 08 March 2009 - 01:22 AM

See, THAT is why I like Sally better in SatAM. I can't see SatAM's Sally as the sort to really settle down as queen, as she often says that her title is meaningless and never really speaks of ruling a Kingdom in that show, unlike Archie!Sal who seems to be tied by that responsibility of being a princess.

Well to be fair, this is a 30 year jump in the future. I can't imagine Sally staying active that long, bar some tampering like Shadow.

However, the Sally of the present sounds a lot like what you've described there.


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Posted 08 March 2009 - 01:23 AM

Huh, really? Well, I haven't read into a lot of the recent issues, but I distinctly remember something about her making choose between settling down with her or adventuring and risking being killed some time ago.

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Posted 08 March 2009 - 01:30 AM

TBH, I think fan service is the only reason. It's the same stuff that got Tommy killed off for good, and I bet it had something to do with the Echidna genocide.


Well I don't know enough people who do like it but Sonic fans are fickle enough, sure they're going to milk it one more time before they throw it into a meat grinder. I think people just want to see King Shadow again, which would make it interesting if King Sonic and King Shadow duked it out to confirm the state of the future.

See, THAT is why I like Sally better in SatAM. I can't see SatAM's Sally as the sort to really settle down as queen, as she often says that her title is meaningless and never really speaks of ruling a Kingdom in that show, unlike Archie!Sal who seems to be tied by that responsibility of being a princess.


Yeah I think that's what made Son/Sal look to work in the old days. I've always felt that Sonic and Sally would have more of a loving relationship over Son/Amy, where Sonic could truly be smart and adventurous with Sally. Son/Amy would be more of an accidental pregnancy thing and Sally needed to marry nobility. But the idea of Sonic and Sally having kids died after I saw Archy's versions of them. In a cartoony way it works but the rest of the comics don't work like that. Sonic should only have kids with Amy IMO.

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Posted 08 March 2009 - 04:09 AM

Ugh, I thought Sonic Universe was going to expand on characters and give us some depth...not showcase some hypothetical future....thats hardly character development if its possible it won't ever happen.

I'm sorry but the whole Mobius [insert time] years later just bores me to tears. They were fillers at best, and I'd hoped we'd seen the last of them....bleh. Sonic Universe should be focusing on the current characters and their stories; the characters you might not usually get to see much of due to Sonic being in the spotlight of his own comic book...characters like Nack or Bean or Rouge or Antionne or something.....not lame "what if future" stories.

This plus the boring "non-Spaz" in fact " non-good-at-all" cover art is makng the comics a real bore for me........but at least they are still more entertaining and more "Sonic" than the games at the moment.

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Posted 08 March 2009 - 10:39 PM

So anybody here remember Mecha Madness? If not, do so, you're missing out. There's really no doubt in my mind that "Mecha Madness" was truly the pinnacle of quality in Sonic history, let alone the comic series. This three-issue arc dealt with Robotnik finally capturing Sonic and roboticizing him, who unleashes him to wreck havoc on Knothole Village. With the use of one of his scavenged roboticizers, the Freedom Fighters hire Knuckles to be mechanized and battle Mecha Sonic. Eye candy ensues.

Judging by how much lighter in tone the comics were back then, this was some pretty heavy stuff. When Robotnik captures Sonic, he doesn't do crazy shit like brainwash him or install a tracking device in his nervous system; he transforms him into a destructive, killing machine. Awesome fight scenes aside, what also got to me in "Mecha Madness" was the struggle between Sonic's robotic side and what little humanity he has left. Although Sonic follows Robotnik's orders to a T, you can see Mecha Sonic's struggling internally, and only when Mecha Knuckles's life is put at risk (when the two are sent pummeling into Robotropolis) does a part of Sonic finally emerge, protecting Knuckles from nuclear destruction by taking the full brunt of the damage himself. Near the end, Sonic even briefly expresses remorse. ...At least, right before he becomes de-roboticized and returns to his usual jerkass self.

Naturally, when I read this as a kid, it left me with mixed feelings, and I still think of the arc as one of the most emotional moments in the series, comics or otherwise. In fact, Mecha Madness was one of my earliest exposures to the Sonic series (the first being the Sonic & Knuckles special), long before I played any of the video games. Truly a way for me to get into the franchise! Mecha Madness was referenced in issues 86 and 87, too.

It's worth noting that this came out during the time Spaz was actually a pretty amazing artist. More than that, his style was my favorite in the entire series. To those familiar only with his recent crappy excuses of covers, here are a few examples of his earlier artwork. He only occasionally illustrated full stories, but it was always a treat to see them whenever he did. It's a shame he really doesn't care anymore.

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Posted 08 March 2009 - 11:12 PM

Another future series? Meh, it's okay, but it doesn't seem as interesting as the current time stories. I prefer the present over future anyways.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 03:25 PM

I can't stand ___ years later arcs. But I'm glad they've been shoved over to the Universe series and out of the main canon for Archie's Sonic the Hedgehog, even if they already always were just hypothetical futures.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 04:03 PM

but the second I saw #5 cover I lost all faith in Archie.

Hi there. Your rage is misguided. It's the FANS that you need to lose faith in, because Archie is only catering to them.


I need to agree with DarkCyan here. Archie is only doing what the fans are wanting. Which is understandable because it wants to keep selling copies of its comic. I will admit I have only started reading the Archie comics from the start (the first 40 or so are rubbish and just nonsense but you can tell once SatAM finished they really started to pull that story into their comics to make it work out and finish. I don't have any issues of concern or hatred for Archie, they are just doing what they can to attempt to please their fans. Admittedly they cannot please EVERYONE though.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 06:05 PM

Can anyone please confirm for me if someone with a Sonic X subscription extending beyond #40 has recieved Sonic Universe #1 in the mail? I assumed that's what they were going to do yet I haven't recieved anything in the mail yet. Otherwise Archie's robbing me out of 5 bucks.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 06:21 PM

That's how it worked for me. I received Sonic X #40, and then later received SU #1, and my subscription for that now runs to issue #6 before I need to resubscribe.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 06:34 PM

Well it's probably just me then cause I haven't gotten anything in the mail yet.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 07:22 PM

The XX Years Later Stories are something that definitely don't interest me, but as others said, I do like the fact that they've been pushed over to Sonic Universe. If you don't like them, you can just skip 'em without worrying about having to cancel your subscription on the main series. I still would prefer SU concentrating on the present, but meh, whatever.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 08:40 PM

It's only four issues anyway, and after that it's four issues of current Knuckles goodness. I love the way Ian portrays Knuckles, and look forward to find out what he has in store for the Knuxter.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 09:44 PM

Speaking of Knuckles, is Locke still dead? Will he ever be coming back?

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 09:56 PM

Yeah, I think resurrections are being avoided.

Now the AFTERLIFE on the other hand...


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Posted 09 March 2009 - 10:33 PM

Sonic the Hedgehog is an ongoing series of American comic books published by Archie Comics, featuring Sega's mascot video game character of the same name. The comic book series debuted in the United States at the beginning of 1993, two years after the release of the first video game in 1991 for the Sega Genesis. Spin-off publications from the comic include a Knuckles the Echidna series starring the titular character, which ran for 32 issues; 15 48-page "Super Specials"; 8 single 48-page special issues; and 4 short three-issue miniseries, each starring a character from the series. On September 21, 2005, Archie Comics started a new series based on the TV show Sonic X. In February 2009, the Sonic X series will be replaced by Sonic Universe, a direct spin-off of the parent comic, Sonic The Hedgehog.

Aside from the Sonic X series, all of Archie Comics' Sonic-related series take place in the same fictional universe. This universe features a mixture of characters, settings and storylines from the Sonic the Hedgehog cartoon, the Sonic video games by Sega, and various other incarnations of Sonic. It also includes many elements unique to the comic universe. While the ongoing game canon has influenced the comic canon, both exist as entirely different universes. Sonic the Hedgehog is not to be confused with Sonic the Comic, which ran in the UK and published more issues despite running for a shorter time (due to UK comics being published on more frequent schedule than in the US). As of February 2009, there have been 197 issues of the original Sonic the Hedgehog series. Also, the series was recognized by Guinness World Records as the longest running comic series based on a video game.[1]

The main focus of the comic storyline is the title character, world-famous hero Sonic the Hedgehog. Sonic is endowed with super speed and a love of freedom, which puts him at odds with the nefarious Dr. Robotnik. Sonic is in many ways different from his game counterpart - in the comics, he is depicted as having important ties with his family and friends, a characteristic absent from other incarnations. He is also portrayed as having a deep sense of duty - in the games Sonic treats his ongoing conflict with Eggman as just an opportunity to have a fun time, whereas in the comic he holds a personal grudge against the Doctor and understands his ability to protect the world from this menace. Sometimes he does seem to have a fun time fighting Robotnik, but ultimately he seems to treat the ordeal seriously.

Although Sonic normally goes adventuring by himself in the video games (with the occasional company of other player characters), in the comic he is affiliated with the Freedom Fighters, a ragtag rebellion that was formed to counter the tyranny of Dr. Ivo Robotnik (currently known as "Eggman") and his legion of unquestioning, warlike robots. The basis of the original issues were designed to closely mirror the animated television series, as well as the names and likenesses of Sonic's allies in the Freedom Fighters. Since then, the series has integrated many elements from the video games, which has led to ongoing story arcs involving Shadow the Hedgehog and others.

At the beginning of the series the year was 3235, though by now it is approximately 3237. Sonic currently lives on Planet Mobius in New Mobotropolis. It was eventually revealed that Mobius is actually a future Earth (in an alternate reality), the year being 14,016 A.D. by the real-life calendar.

Originally, the date the Xorda attacked Earth was the year 0 by the Mobian calendar (sometime during the 21st century by our calendar), and that was known in Echidna theology as the first "Day of Fury". However, the date of the Xorda attack was retconned to have occurred roughly twelve thousand years ago from the current Mobian year.
The year 3237 was shown on Eggman's computer screen in issue #157.
At the onset of the series, Sonic's original home was Knothole Village, a secret woodland base hidden within the Great Forest. Other main areas of setting include Angel Island, Station Square, Downunda and New Megaopolis.

The original issues of the series and those soon to follow consisted mostly of isolated stories. That is, there was rarely any continuity between issues. However, there were the additions of new characters (such as Bunny Rabbot, Knuckles, and Super Sonic) that would become familiar and lasting faces as the series continued. The early issues featured much of Sonic versus Robotnik, in which Sonic would constantly foil Robotnik’s plans whether it be to tear down a forest or find the hidden location of Knothole Village. Eventually though, the issues started to gain a sense of an ongoing story, most notably with the addition of the Mecha Sonic storyline in issue #39, in which Sonic is transformed into a robotic form and does as Robotnik commands. This would later be concluded in a Sonic Special issue where Knuckles gives himself up to be transformed into a robot in order to defeat Mecha Sonic. From here, the storyline would be further developed into what is now a fully continuous one. Following the defeat of Mecha Sonic, the Freedom Fighters come together in issue #46 to discuss ways to attack and defeat Robotnik once and for all. The loyalty of many of the Freedom Fighters comes into question, particularly notable in a feud between Sonic and Geoffrey St. John, member of the Acorn Secret Service. This continues into the renowned EndGame saga which takes place over a four issue span, #47 through #50.

The saga begins with a mission by the Freedom Fighters and the Wolf Pack, led by Lupe, to attack Robotnik’s base. Princess Sally reveals thoughts of her father, King Acorn, telling her that it would soon become apparent that Sonic is a traitor. The mission proceeds and Sally is in need of help or she may fall to her death. The Freedom Fighters look on in despair when they think they see Sonic and assume that he will rescue the princess. Much to their surprise, Sonic aids Sally in falling to her death. The mission is called to retreat, and the Freedom Fighters move back to Knothole Village. Meanwhile, Sonic is seen battling Robotnik inside the base (when he apparently left Sally for dead). Robotnik escapes and Sonic leaves the base, wondering where the rest of his companions have gone. Sonic returns to Knothole, only to be arrested and spared the death penalty in light of all his services, so instead he is sentenced to life in prison on the Devil’s Gulag, where other notorious traitors such as Sleuth Doggy Dog (issue #42) will be imprisoned with him. While Sonic is being transported to the Gulag, Swatbots attack the vessel and it crash lands. Sonic remains conscious and takes the opportunity to escape. News bears word and King Acorn demands the recapture of Sonic by St. John. Sonic on the run, takes refuge in a cavern. Meanwhile, Bunny and Antoine discover that Drago (a member of the Wolf Pack) has been working with Robotnik in order to frame Sonic. This is followed by King Acorn issuing Robotnik as his new Warlord. Sonic, in the meantime, continues his run from St. John and the secret service with aid from Dulcy the Dragon. Robotnik reveals his duplicate of the king by making it self destruct and the true plan has become evident to all. All this would lead up to Sonic's return to Knothole in issue #50, where Sonic clears his name heads to a final showdown with Robotnik. As the issue notes, Sonic is uncharacteristically devoid of humor as he approaches Robotnik. In the battle, Robotnik’s Ultimate Annihilator crashes and the room is destined for destruction, but Robotnik and Sonic remain to fight. In the end, Sonic emerges victorious and Robotnik is wiped out. Sonic later revives Sally with a kiss.

Storylines continue to follow after the EndGame saga. Ixis Naugus makes his first appearance in issue #53. Although temporarily defeated, he would later return in issues #64 through #66, along with the appearance of Nate Morgan, former advisor of king Acorn, and Ixis would be defeated this time by Ultra Sonic, one of Sonic's transformations.

Issue #75 reveals that a robotic version of Robotnik has been functioning since after the defeat of the original Robotnik in issue #50. His presence is revealed by flashbacks to certain issues between issues #50 and #75. Sonic and the Freedom Fighters head to space to battle this Robo-Robotnik, and although they defeat him, there are many other Robo-Robotniks standing in line. These Robotniks are what has now become Sonic's familiar enemy, Eggman.

Sonic Adventure is readily adapted into the series with the appearance of Chaos, beginning in issue #79. The saga ends with Sonic successfully defeating Perfect Chaos, the final form of Chaos after absorbing all of the Chaos Emeralds, by transforming into Super Sonic in issue #84. Sonic does not actually destroy Chaos, as Chaos returns to his ancient beginnings to live in peace.

Issues #85 and #86 feature the return of Mecha Sonic (though not Sonic himself this time, but a totally separate machine.)

Sonic Adventure 2 comes into adaptation for one issue featuring Shadow the Hedgehog.

In issue #125, Sonic's latest battle leaves him stranded in space after saving Knothole. On Mobius, he is assumed to be dead. Sonic's journey through space leads up to many interesting story lines, such as the return of Super Sonic in issue #126, and Sonic's discovery that Tails' parents are still alive on a far off planet. Sonic returns in issue #130 where he reveals to everyone that he is indeed alive and well.

Issues #131 through #144 introduce a sub storyline in which the future of Mobius is the plot. In this future, Sonic is king of Knothole and married to Sally. Knuckles has attained the rank of Guardian and is married to Julie Su. However all is not well as the timeline is in danger of collapsing into destruction. Sonic and Knuckles try with the help of Rotor to prevent this catastrophe, but fail and the timeline and storyline come to an end.

Issue #145 features the return of Shadow, who then returns to take part of the storyline, frequently battling Sonic in issues #157 through #161.

Sonic was switched with evil sonic temporarily and got back and evil sonic was ruining his reputation around knothole. Sally was up to marriage for the kingdom and patch finallly put his plan in action. Sally and patch were about to get married until Sonic finnally convinced Prince Elias to come back and be king which he did and sonic defeated patch, figured it out, and got the real antoine back and sent patch back to moebius. Soon after he began dating fiona fox until his birthday when he found out she was cheating on him with his opposite the newly green evil sonic Scourge.

The Sonic the Hedgehog comic typically runs original storylines based around characters from various Sonic media, but it has also made a number of adaptations. For instance, it has adapted a couple episodes of Sonic the Hedgehog, as well as complete or partial adaptations of the following video games:

Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine (#2)
Sonic Spinball (#6)
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (#9) (also combined with Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles for the Sonic-Quest mini-series)
Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (#13) (also combined with Sonic 2 and Sonic & Knuckles for the Sonic-Quest mini-series)
Sonic & Knuckles (Sonic & Knuckles Special) (also combined with Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 for the Sonic-Quest mini-series)
Sonic CD (#25)
SegaSonic the Hedgehog (Knuckles #26-28) (arcade game)
Sonic Triple Trouble (Sonic Triple Trouble Special)
Knuckles' Chaotix (Knuckles' Chaotix Special, and issues 138-141)
Sonic 3D Blast (Sonic Blast Special)
Sonic Adventure (Super Special #13, and issues 79-84, originally planned to be 78-83, and Knuckles issues 33-34 before it was cancelled after issue 32)
Sonic Shuffle (#92)
Sonic Adventure 2 (#98, SU#2 (?))
Sonic Rush (#160 & #161)
Sonic Riders (#163 & #164)
Shadow The Hedgehog (#171) (Shadow's origins)
Sonic Rush Adventure (#180)
Sonic and the Secret Rings (free comic made for the game)
Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood (#191)
Sonic Unleashed (#193)
Sonic and the Black Knight (#197)
Sonic the Hedgehog (TV series) Episodes:

Sonic the Hedgehog (Super Special #8, Episode: "Ghost Busted")
Sonic the Hedgehog (#113, Episode: "Cry of the Wolf")
Movies:

Sonic the Hedgehog: The Movie (#101)
Sonic the Hedgehog was originally published as a four issue mini-series, with the first issue labeled as "issue 0" and the second as "issue 1" (despite the note on issue 1 that it was the "first issue"). At the end of issue 3 (the fourth issue of the series), it was announced that Sonic would return in a regular series, and the next issue was published as "issue 1" of the regular series.

In addition to the main Sonic series, Archie Comics published various special issues. Longer than typical issues of the comic, these specials feature stories involving Sonic and other related characters. Several miniseries have also been published, featuring characters such as Sally, Tails and Knuckles.

Because of the popularity of the specials and Miniseries featuring Knuckles, in 1997 Knuckles the Echidna became an ongoing series. Knuckles's stories featured its own cast of Characters, including the Chaotix and Knuckles's romantic interest, Julie-Su. Like the Sonic comic, Knuckles's comic is filled with background information about Knuckles's family history. Knuckles's family has split into two factions: the Brotherhood of Guardians and the Dark Legion. Knuckles is a member of the former, and Julie-Su used to be a member of the latter. Much of the conflict of the comic surrounds the relations between these two warring factions.

In 1999, the series was cancelled, but the stories were continued in the pages of Sonic the Hedgehog. After Knuckles's cancellation and until issue 125, a typical issue of Sonic included a Sonic story and a Knuckles story, sometimes even including a third story. This led to each story getting considerably less space than it previously had. Recently, Knuckles's appearances have been infrequent but his story continues within Sonic's stories.

The creators also have a comic strip similar to those found in a newspaper at the end of some issues called Off-Panel. Off-Panel was in every issue for a long time and continues infrequently in the comic series. The strips parody the lives of the editor and the writers as they walk around the office and interact with characters from the comic in various ways.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 11:20 PM

LOL mod action conflict D= You win, Remz.


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Posted 12 March 2009 - 02:45 AM

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Edited by chaoscontrol14, 12 March 2009 - 02:46 AM.


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Posted 12 March 2009 - 04:30 AM

Well it's probably just me then cause I haven't gotten anything in the mail yet.


I'm still waiting on SU #1, too. :(

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Posted 12 March 2009 - 04:40 AM

Well it's probably just me then cause I haven't gotten anything in the mail yet.


I'm still waiting on SU #1, too. :(

I still haven't received Sonic X #40 or Universe #1 from my subscription. Apparently, there has been a delay for Universe for subscribers for one reason or another and won't be shipping for a while.

The actual post I'm referring to:

I got this reply from Archie today

The Sonic Universe issue #1 is not yet available. There was a delay in the shipping and should arrive shortly. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Thanks,
Customer Service

Now that makes me wonder. Did anyone here get their SU #1 in the mail? Or did everyone who already has the issue get it by going to a store?


This is truly odd, but if you want your SU on time, check your comic book store as the others that have it have gotten it through there according to the thread because you may not get it for a while.

Unrelated to the shipping hasal, but Sonic # 198 has been reviewed here. Obviously, link contains spoilers.

http://sonichqcommun...8-Spoilers.html

Edited by Emerl, 12 March 2009 - 04:40 AM.





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