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[Meow]

"Dante The Demon Killer" does not have a nice ring to it, Dante.

Also the writing in this game feels like it is trying way too hard to be edgy/cool. Not in the same way that previous games did it with a campy feeling, but this is just outright bad.

[Mr. NinjaShark]

not_Dante Punching a guy out after Not letting him into some Club because he wasn't on the List

FINALLY! he is showing some Traits of his Good Counterpart! it took them a Whole Goddamn Year but they finally got something ri-

not_Dante grabs the List and writes "FUCK YOU" on it

Never-fucking-mind

[Carbo]

God help us, Raiden.

[ProfessorZolo]

Really seems like the new Dante is trying too hard. Still, the game itself is looking better than it was. That's gotta count for something, right?

[ArtFenix]

While the dialog is just BAD the game looks like a lot of fun. ..and I have to admit it despite still hating new Dante. I want the next game to continue Devil May Cry 4, not this DMC game.

[turbojet]

Don't let that trailer fool you. The combat is just as clunky as the last preview.

[Shirou Emiya]

Here's a couple of quotes from the thread on the TvTropes forums outlining why Donte's characterization is bad:

And one more thing; the biggest difference between good Dante and Donte is that Dante does not hurt people. That doorman was doing his job. Now, if it turns out that club is being run by demons and the doorman was a demon, that might be okay, but the trailer never showed he was so I'm left to assume that Donte beat up a relatively innocent person.

Dante is a hero. He does what he does because he has a moral code and wants to keep people safe from demons. Dante likes to show off because it's fun, and he has a laid back but confident attitude because he knows he can handle things. Donte on the other hand seems to always be compensating for something. He's acts more like someone trying to be badass instead of someone who is badass. The way he talks reeks of hiding insecurity, and his actions make it look like he takes enjoyment over being more powerful than other people, including defenseless humans. Donte has to keep reassuring himself he's a tough guy through posing and using vulgarity.

Original Dante is a fun trickster who is self assured and likes to have fun when he's dishing out justice. Donte is a punk who enjoys bullying people and posturing in a vain attempt to look cool. And I am not giving Dm C's writers the credit of creating a flawed character here; they have made Donte act this way because they want us to think he's cool and they are failing at it. They want us to genuinely believe that this behavior is cool, and it sounds like a bunch of these magazine articles are actually buying into that. Who the fuck has to claim they're "100% heterosexual" out of nowhere? The original Dante would have still been an awesome badass even if he was 1% heterosexual. Know why? Because he was always confident and self assured. His sexuality isn't what made him badass.

Dante: Big penis. Donte: Small penis. That's what it really boils down to. Donte will probably turn out to be a colossal Jerk Sue and Author Avatar. He's the guy that Tameem wishes he was, and that Tameem and reviewers have to keep telling us what a badass he supposedly is just convinces me further.

I don't think Dante would punch the guy, he'd probably go "Whoa there! There must be some kinda mistake! Let me see that...", take the list and pen, scribble something with really exaggerated movements, hand it back to the dude and pat him on the shoulder, and walk in while he's confused. Then the camera cuts away to the list, and it says "Dante" in a stylized font with a little smiley face beside it.

And the insane amount of vulgarity is just stupid. That's not witty! That's just bad writing.

Edited by Masaru Daimon, 06 June 2012 - 05:40 PM.

[Voyant]

Boss fight is pretty legit. I Enjoyed watching it.

As an action game I say it doing good though in its own right...I'll just consider it a DMC spinoff...

And the insane amount of vulgarity is just stupid. That's not witty! That's just bad writing.

When did Devil May Cry...EVER have good writing?

Bad writing is pretty much what makes a DMC game a DMC game.

Edited by Voyant, 06 June 2012 - 06:02 PM.

[turbojet]

The combat is still subpar, but I do enjoy the one liners. He is still not Dante though.

[Shirou Emiya]

When did Devil May Cry...EVER have good writing?

Bad writing is pretty much what makes a DMC game a DMC game.

Okay, correction: BAD bad writing. Not humorously bad. Just cringeworthy. The Devil May Cry games (except 2) are deliberately campy, but Ninja Theory didn't learn from DMC2 that Devil May Cry without the camp just doesn't work. Repeated swearing isn't funny, period.

Edit: Oh, and if what I'm hearing is right, the first boss is a third of the way through the game. Are Ninja Theory games really that short?

Edited by Masaru Daimon, 06 June 2012 - 06:17 PM.

[Carbo]

Enslaved didn't really have many "bosses" either so this doesn't surprise me. I only remember like, four.

[turbojet]

Yeah, Heavenly Sword only had four bosses if I recall correctly. One of which you faced twice so you can't really count it as a boss.

[Eternal Xtreme]

Don't let that trailer fool you. The combat is just as clunky as the last preview.

OH MY FUCKING GOSH PLAYER! STOP FUCKING SHOOTING THE ENEMY AND JUST KILL THE BASTARD! IT'S NOT THAT FUCKING HARD!

[Ringo ~]

At least this Dante is pretty amusing with his one-liners, swearing aside.

EDIT: Also, are people seriously considering buying this game at one point just to hate on it? That's pretty tragic.

Edited by Ringo ~, 06 June 2012 - 08:27 PM.

[turbojet]

Carbo explicitly said as a second hand experience or at least rent worthy.

[Discoid]

Wow, this writing is almost as vulgar as South Park. Difference is, South Park does it as a means of satire while this is just stupid.

Oh, I'm sorry, fucking stupid, for fuck's sake. Better, Capcom?

[Megabox!]

Game looks....pretty sick. I might actually pick this up, could be quite enjoyable

[ChaosSupremeSonîc]

I have to admit, I laughed when he punched out the doorman and wrote "Fuck you" on the list. As out of character as it would have been for the old Dante (although I wouldn't find it too far out of character if the original did just that), that gave me a good laugh.

Yeah, I'm kinda enjoying the one liners. Unlikely I'll get this game tho.

[Noel]

I'm not a DMC fan at all really, to pretend I am would be stupid. I know nothing about the old DMC's, I actually own the first one but haven't played it much. But anyway, to be honest I'll probably pick this up, character and fandom loyalty bullshit aside if I have fun with the game then I couldn't care less about someone else's opinion. Hope that doesn't sound dickish, but what I see looks alright, and not really terrible.

Ok, you can all come in and tell me I suck and I should burn at the stake for even thinking this game looks ok at best.

[Sean]

The gameplay just doesn't look fun at all to me. It looks like it takes forever to kill enemies. I'm the worst DMC1 player in the world and it never took me that long to kill a fucking mook.