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[VEDJ-F]

That's where I am as well.

Doesn't the urn thing contradict the main story, though? If I recall correctly, Omega said that he had to bring the urn to Big Ben because living creatures couldn't handle it. Of course, I was really tired when watching that cutscene so I could be very wrong.


Edit:

Ooh, one thing that needs to be said - this game has an awesome soundtrack, in particular the music during the cutscenes for Story mode. Really epic stuff at times, helps to drag you into the adventure and makes it seem all the more intense.

Yesssss. If someone who has the game can rip soundtracks, can you please do it for this one ASAP? I want my epic music fill, now.

Edited by VEDJ-F, 11 February 2012 - 10:22 PM.

[Chocolate Cookie]

I don't know if Bowser and Eggman or dumb or not but they really should of checked those letters instead of assuming they were love letters.

[Doctor MK]

I don't know if Bowser and Eggman or dumb or not but they really should of checked those letters instead of assuming they were love letters.

I do love how the entire reason their evil plot was set in motion boils down to Amy's obsession with Sonic (and to a lesser extent, Peach's with Mario). What a plot twist!

@VEDJ-F: Now that you mention it, it does contradict what Omega said. He was sent to Stonehenge to get the urn, under Eggman's instructions, yet Wario was the one who had his grubby mitts on it... and Eggman got the urn from him. So either it's a plot-hole or there's something we haven't been told. Let the speculation BEGIN!

[-Mark-]

Posted this in the status updates as well, but it's too funny to let it slip off the front page within a couple of minutes. Good god, some of the tutorial pictures for the Mario & Sonic 3DS Judo event look hilariously wrong. XD

[Doctor MK]

It's the unintentional innuendo in "Press faster for bigger moves!" under that pic that gets me most

In fact, that kinda sums up the entire game for me. Unintentionally hilarious. In places it's just so bad, it's genius.

[VEDJ-F]

So now I have a critique for the story, that isn't just me pointing out a plothole.

Am I the only one who feels that the phantasmal fog was severely underutilised? For all it got bigged up, it wasn't used that well. It can create a huge amount of phantasmal clones, but we only saw a tiny number of athletes cloned (the Heroes, Blaze, Peach, Shadow and Silver). It can alter voices which can be used for trickery, but we only saw that one as a punchline (for Bowser Jr). It can brainwash people but it only ever got used on Rouge. That's probably the biggest one; why not force the judges to inhale it so you can have a defacto win no matter what? Or the other athletes? Or everyone? At least Eggman managed to use it effectively the one time he did use it, unlike in Colours, but still.

Also, the constant jokes about London being the city of fog makes me realise something; London's used to it. Out of anyone, they can probably be most counted on to find a quick workaround to heavy fog! The opening ceremony didn't need postponing!

Edited by VEDJ-F, 11 February 2012 - 11:19 PM.

[Scheming Minor]

You mentioned bonus stories. Do the Tricksters have a bonus story like the Wild Ones?

[VEDJ-F]

All of them bar the Heroes have a bonus story. Overall, all groups get 6 episodes in total bar the Wild Ones who get just 5.

[Scheming Minor]

All of them bar the Heroes have a bonus story. Overall, all groups get 6 episodes in total bar the Wild Ones who get just 5.

Can you splurge the details, or have I been absently glossing over the bonus story details in this thread?

By the way, thank you for all of your time and dedication posting up the story tidbits. How Robotnik got the urn from Wario (because after all when has Wario ever been charitable?) is making me speculate with my poor mind in the gutter...

Oh to be an adult and corrupted by the interwebs.

[VEDJ-F]

I haven't covered any of the bonus stories in any real depth here, just mentioned the absolute key point of each in passing. For now, I'll just go over the trickster story, might not do more until much, much later due to how tired I feel right now (ie I could drop to the floor to sleep).

Spoiler

The story really begins in the Challenger story; Bowser Jr comes across Eggman trying to train Metal Sonic, challenges him to an event challenge (on the condition that he'll become a slave for Eggman if he loses), wins, and asks for snacks and for Eggman to tell Bowser how awesome he was as his reward.

Cut to later, in the Trickster bonuses, and Eggman is still trying to get Metal Sonic's logistics right so that he can be the best athlete, He needs someone to test his modifications on, and thus sets his sights on Waluigi, who's walking about in London (but not after he decides not to use Cubot and Orbot, despite the former's pleas). Eggman attempts to trick Waluigi into fighting Metal Sonic by promising that he'll provide him with a way of beating Luigi and becoming the Superstar (which is odd, since this isn't Mario Party). Although the ruse is nearly blown by Cubot blabbering, Waluigi accepts the challenge, and is promptly beaten by Metal Sonic. Waluigi promises to himself that he'll train harder so that he can beat Luigi on his lonesome.

Meanwhile, Eggman has worked out that while MS's speed is up to par, his raw power is low. After modifying that, he sets his sights on Wario. Orbot and Cubot try to trick him by promising him a way to beat Mario, but Wario is flat-out disinterested. Eggman steps in to try and salvage the situation, and ends up in a deal; if Wario wins, he gets to keep Cubot and Orbot (Eggman would be more than glad to hand them over despite their protests if Wario did indeed win. Wario wants them since they're robots, thus could carry out menial labour for his business without needing pay). Metal Sonic wins though, and Wario is forced to hand something of his over. He barters an urn which he explains was obtained from an old woman who claimed that it was magic. Eggman accepts the deal, and takes the urn back to his base.

There, he figures out that this urn is the urn that contains the Phantasmal Fog. The urn was found at ancient English ruins (Stonehenge) and had been on display at the British Museum for 300 years, before it recently got stolen. Eggman uses his nearby machine to break the urn's seal, and the base is flooded with the fog. A Phantasmal clone of Sonic forms, which Eggman himself is eager to take on (Orbot and Cubot think that it's the real deal). After winning, Eggman laments on its usefulness, and decides to keep it around, thus ending the Trickster bonus story.

I really needed that, it's helping me stay awake until my next lecture at 1pm.

[Reggie Fils-Aime]

Posted this in the status updates as well, but it's too funny to let it slip off the front page within a couple of minutes. Good god, some of the tutorial pictures for the Mario & Sonic 3DS Judo event look hilariously wrong. XD

Press FASTER for BIGGER moves. Tails, you're not fooling anyone.

[Agent York]

To be honest, I'm kind of surprised Omega, of all characters, play a bigger role in the story than like, all of the playable characters alone. It's like he has the biggest role in the story, which is... Unexpected.

Edited by Agent York, 13 February 2012 - 03:13 PM.

[Scheming Minor]

Spoiler

I find it amusing that Eggman is the only person who is able to get one over Waluigi. Or that Waluigi trusts Robotnik so much to actually believe him.

Hmmm, retcon that perhaps Eggman met Waluigi at a Mario Party game or is familiar to Mario Party? It would seem plausible that we don't even know what Eggman does in his spare time and that he has access to many scientific gadgets that can transport him through time and space.

And could one imagine if Cubot was hired to do games for WarioWare since Wario wanted them for his business labor?

Also Eggman nor Bowser stole the urn. Shocker.(No, that's not sarcasm.)

[Dan-imeJ86]

I'm late to the party so it might have already been mentioned. But, did anyone notice the thing with Eggman Nega? I never did play Winter Olympics DS, so I don't know if it also happened on that game.

Spoiler

When the heroes meet Eggman Nega, Tails introduces him as "Eggmans descendant" then a sentance or two later, says how "Blaze stopped him."
Surely the whole different story from different games can't both be canon can they? It's just even more confusing. Can't Sega pick one and stick with it?
It also states when you view the Eggman Nega badge "The Eggman from Blaze's world." *shrug*

[VEDJ-F]

Noticed a long while ago. It's hilarious.

[VEDJ-F]

Have a new update for you guys, this time covering multiplayer!

Firstly, the character choice; I saw a few people speculating on hust how it might be done considering the format of the events. So, how did they do it in the Medley mode, where there are multiple events?

Spoiler

IT'S A YOSHI FEST!

All the players are Yoshis, just in the colour matching their player colour. As the 1P host, I was red, and my volunteer was blue. This applied for every event.

The medley itself is pretty unusual; there's a total of nine pre-set events (100m, 110m hurdles, 3000m steeplechase, Floor, Triple jump, Trampoline, Basketball, Shot put and 20km walk). However, after the fifth event is a bonus game where Party News (hosted by Omochao) pops up and announced that Captain Drake's treasure has just been found, which the players get to haul up in order of 4th to 1st. Here, the AI absoloutely fucking cheats and gets all the highest bonuses. As such, I (1st) and the volunteer (2nd) helped each other find our own highest bonuses (the AIs were 20pts, his was 15pts, mine was 5pts. Omochao gives a second bulletin after a later event, and randomly gives out bonus points based on rank (ie lowest gets most, 1st gets fewest). Finally, bonus points are assignest based on a random category, thus whoever did best in it (ours was gymnastics) gets 20pts, whoever did worst get 15pts. This was enough to knock my volunteer from 2nd to 3rd, but I managed to stay 1st. Also, it takes a photo of you for the 'ceremony', if you let it.

This test was done with Medley Mode, on Download play. It was a little laggy.

[dabbido]

Hey VEDJ-F speaking of character choices...since you got the game could you tell us what characters are available for what events? I guess the "fighting" events can only be played as power characters like Bowser and Vector? what are the groups and what are the events for each one?

[VEDJ-F]

Groups are like this;

Heroes; Mario, Sonic, Luigi, Tails
Girls; Blaze, Amy, Peach, Daisy
Tricksters; Wario, Waluigi, Eggman, Metal Sonic
Wild Ones; Vector, Bowser, Knuckles, Donkey Kong
Challengers; Bowser Jr, Yoshi, Silver, Shadow


And this is a list of the events each group does (in standard single-player Highlight/Medley Match, the rules don't always apply in Story mode or multi-player);

Heroes; 100m, 4x 100m Relay, Marathon, 20km Race Walk, Pole Vault, 100m Freestyle, Synchronised Swimming (Duet), Table Tennis (Doubles), Badminton (Doubles), Judo, Fencing - Epee, Horizontal Bar, Sprint, BMX, Rowing - Quadruple Sculls, Sailing - 470 (Pair), Archery (Team), Triathlon, Modern Pentathlon.
Girls; 100m Backstroke, Synchronised Swimming (Team), Beach Volleyball, Balance Beam, Rhythmic Ribbon (Team), Omnium, Keirin, Show Jumping (Team), Canoe Slalom (Pair), Archery (Individual).
Tricksters; Long Jump, 100m Breaststroke, Platform Diving (Synchronised), Hockey, Handball, Badminton (Singles), Taekwondo, 1000m Kayak (Singles), 25m Rapid Fire Pistol.
Wild Ones; Hammer Throw, Javelin Throw, Tennis (Singles), Football, Boxing, Wrestling - Freestyle, Rings, Double Trap, Weightlifting.
Challengers; 110m Hurdles, 1500m, 3000m Steeplechase, Triple Jump, Shot Put, 10k Marathon Swim, Water Polo, Basketball, Floor, Trampoline.


57 events, and the Wild Ones have only nine to their name. Not that anyone but Heroes has it much better with 10 events each,

[dabbido]

Wow...it still sucks that you cant choose your character but I said that already.

They all get nice and crappy events, sucks that the only good events Bowser Jr, Shadow and Silver get are Water Polo and Basketball :,( At least theres a character I like for every group: Heroes: Sonic and Tails (I like Mario and Luigi too, I just dont use them much) Girls: Blaze Tricksters: Metal Sonic Wild Ones: Vector, Knuckles, Bowser Challengers: Bowser Jr, Shadow, Silver.

Sadly with Kid Icarus, Animal Crossing and Mario Tennis coming Ill have to wait for the next one. Thanks for putting all that effort to tell me just that, I guess you probably had to check it all. I appreciate it

[VEDJ-F]

Oh for fuck's sake, I hate this Gacha system!