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Teen talks about Utah brainwashing camp


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Sadly, the media only reports what it wants for its own gains, plus it depends on political leaning of media source, most American Right-Wing media groups would gladly sweep this under the carpet. <_<

I don't want to get into a media debate, but the majority of the media, from the New York Times, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, Reuters, AP, etc. are liberal. Any of these groups would gain a lot of publicity from posting such a story.

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It's because there's no definitive proof. Newspapers can post gossip all they want and get away with it, but when you accuse a charity or 'public service' of doing something underhanded, if you don't have definitive proof then you'd be in serious shit.

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Damn it, this is so hard to believe this is real... This almost seems like something you'd read in a post-apocalyptic novel or something

I for one am one of the people who is not for sex before Marriage, but to show these teens the STD or consequences of what will happen seems... no is pretty scarring. This could mess them up when they are finally ready to have a commitment.

And finally the biggest issue here is all the homophobia. To think, just when we think we're stepping forward in life, there are people who just want to drag us back from progress. Seriously I thought this was America, a free country! This is starting to sound like something in a third world country. Girls being forced to not do what boys do? Not cuss? Not eat as much That's disgusts me. Lesbian or not, no one has the right to say what girls should or shouldn't do. This isn't the goddamn 50s.

My god, i hope this Frikkin camp is wiped off the face of the earth. This is disgusting, bigoted and downright evil.

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Honestly? I can't say I'm surprised. This world is sick and twisted. There are plenty of other places just like this, some even worse, yet hardly anyone knows that they exist. I feel bad for her, I hope she bombs the place.

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I really hope all these people die. Not in an aggressive way, just in the sense that I want the generations of humans to pass faster so these sick inhuman monsters of people just aren't in the world anymore. =I

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SSMB. Let us all unite. Everyone meet up from all around the world. To Utah.

We are going to enter this place and hold every staff member / person related to this hostage, and left for further action if provoked. Then we free every single victim from here. Every single one of them.

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SSMB. Let us all unite. Everyone meet up from all around the world. To Utah.

We are going to enter this place and hold every staff member / person related to this hostage, and left for further action if provoked. Then we free every single victim from here. Every single one of them.

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If I go there (which I probably can't afford to do), there will be no member of staff left alive. I'm not kidding. For people who I've never met, I harbour an uncharacteristically high level of hatred for them. Whilst I believe that killing is wrong, I also believe, that removing people of their own soul and their right to be free sentient beings is even worse. It can often leave a person so scarred that they become living corpses.

Having heard something so indescribably aweful like this happen, I really don't like the idea of this institution, and its vicous faculty being left alive.

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I'm not surprised places like this exist. It's completely horrifying and wrong. But with the way the higher ups treat us like we're not human and religious nuts roaming the earth this sort of thing proves that anything goes in society these days. People should never have to go through anything like that. And I really think from here it's only going to get worse.

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Wow, I thought we got rid of places like this a long time ago. Just to stir the pot, I found some more info about the Jamaican one. Read the whole article here, or just get the highlights:

The only moment a student is alone is in a toilet cubicle; but a chaperone is standing right outside the door, and knows what he or she went in to do, because when students raise their hand for permission to go, they must hold up one finger for 'a number one', and two for 'a number two'.

Corporal punishment is not practised, but staff administer 'restraint'. One student explains: 'It's a completely degrading, painful experience. You could get it for raising your voice or pointing your finger. You know you're going to get it when three Jamaicans walk in and say, "Take off your watch." They pin you down in a five-point formation and that's when they start twisting and pulling your limbs, grinding your ankles.'

Before sending their teen to Tranquility, parents are advised that it might be prudent to keep their plan a secret, and employ an approved escort service to break the news. The first most teenagers hear of Tranquility is therefore when they are woken from their beds at home at 4am by guards, who place them in a van, handcuffed if necessary, drive them to an airport and fly them to Jamaica. The child will not be allowed to speak to his or her parents for up to six months, or see them for up to a year.

... no child arrives at Tranquility with a release date. Students are judged ready to leave only when they have demonstrated a sincere belief that they deserved to be sent here, and that the programme has, in fact, saved their life. They must renounce their old self, espouse the programme's belief system, display gratitude for their salvation, and police fellow students who resist.

...Students who fail to grasp the formula are forcefully encouraged to get the message. One girl currently has to wear a sign around her neck at all times, which reads: 'I've been in this programme for three years, and I am still pulling crap.'

When most children first arrive they find it difficult to believe that they have no alternative but to submit. In shock, frightened and angry, many simply refuse to obey. This is when they discover the alternative. Guards take them (if necessary by force) to a small bare room and make them (again by force if necessary) lie flat on their face, arms by their sides, on the tiled floor. Watched by a guard, they must remain lying face down, forbidden to speak or move a muscle except for 10 minutes every hour, when they may sit up and stretch before resuming the position. Modest meals are brought to them, and at night they sleep on the floor of the corridor outside under electric light and the gaze of a guard. At dawn they resume the position.

This is known officially as being 'in OP' - Observation Placement - and more casually as 'lying on your face'. Any level student can be sent to OP, and it automatically demotes them to level 1 and zero points. Every 24 hours, students in OP are reviewed by staff, and only sincere and unconditional contrition will earn their release. If they are unrepentant? 'Well, they get another 24 hours.'

One boy told me he'd spent six months in OP.

I didn't think this could be true, but it transpired this was not even exceptional. 'Oh no,' says Kay. 'The record is actually held by a female.' On and off, she spent 18 months lying on her face.

This all sounds like a major abuse of human rights yet the Jamaican govt seems not bothered about the place so long as it obeys local sanitary regulations. The institution has 49% guardianship rights over the kids and the parents approve so the US authorities won't intervene either.

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Another day, another organization I wish a slow and painful death upon.

Reading that and the following posts on similar institutions was profoundly disturbing. I realize America is a shitty place that throws a freedom-colored coat of paint over corruption and state regulation of citizens' lives but this is beyond sick. I couldn't have even imagined things like this going on in the last 50 years much less right now as I type this. The thing that really hits me is that none of us can stop this, these places will just change names and set up shop somewhere else and things won't change until all the people that think this sort of sick shit is alright are locked away or dead.

The world can be a truly horrible place.

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I had no trouble believing this nor did it surprise me, not for a second seeing as canadian residential schools existed until the last one was shut down in 1996. At least my fellow brethren and sisters got some form of compensation, but it doesn't change the past right? Nothing was worse then those schools, seeing as they were actually funded by the canadian government. But that's the past.

Reading this shit makes me wanna punch someone in the face, particularly anyone who spouts or preaches such bullshit like cross creek does, but I won't, violence aint me. It's pretty sad that these places can get away with this kinda shit as long as someone's pocket is being lined in green.

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The thing that really hits me is that none of us can stop this, these places will just change names and set up shop somewhere else and things won't change until all the people that think this sort of sick shit is alright are locked away or dead.

The only way to stop them is for stupid parents to take it upon themselves to discipline their children instead of sending them off to shady institutions.

But that would require thought and responsibility.

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Read this website. It just gets worse and worse. We need to get the word out about these places! If people knew, there's no way that stuff would be legal.

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Read this website. It just gets worse and worse. We need to get the word out about these places! If people knew, there's no way that stuff would be legal.

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Seriously, America? I am a Republican, and all I can say is:

What.

The.

FUCK.

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And for the umpteenth time, WHAT THE FUCK? I mean, I'm a Christian. And I do not support this BS at all. Sheeeeesh. Why can't the FBI do a full-scale investigation of this W.W.A.S.P. organisation? That's GOT to be a violation of human rights!

These "Christians" have forgotten what it really means to be a Christian. Maybe they should read the Gospels, because Jesus never condoned shit like this...

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Ditto. I'm a Christ follower and very conservative but this.... This is wrong.

The only thing that the Bible labels an 'abomination' is the sacrificing and abuse of children. This is an abomination.

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Mormons are not Christian, when you get down to the theology. That being said, this disgusts me all the same.

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Mormons are not Christian, when you get down to the theology. That being said, this disgusts me all the same.

Mormons follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and believe him to be their saviour, therefore, most theologist sources classify them as "Christian." But Either way, it doesn't matter; these facilities are sick and wrong regardless. I'm horrified they can exist in a modern country, and am equally horrified parents send their children there by choice.

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Mormons follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and believe him to be their saviour, therefore, most theologist sources classify them as "Christian." But Either way, it doesn't matter; these facilities are sick and wrong regardless. I'm horrified they can exist in a modern country, and am equally horrified parents send their children there by choice.

The above is actually pretty debatable, but that's a discussion for another time.

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The above is actually pretty debatable, but that's a discussion for another time.

It's certainly debatable, just as anything to do with religion and classification is. However, as the basic definition of 'Christian' currently stands (i.e., followers of Christ and the Gospels), Mormonism falls under the category of a Christian region. It's currently considered by most anthropologists as a different interpretation of the Christian belief systems, like Catholicism and Protestantism. But, yeah, either way it does not matter to this story. Crazy folks do crazy things, what religion they are has nothing to do with it. :P

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Thread rail repairman coming through! Let's get the train a-rollin' again! (sorry for the joke, just thought i needed to lighten up this bleak thread at least a little)

W.W.A.S.P. is far from the first organization to do this BS. I'mma find some links and documentaries for you all. This ain't just a few isolated cases. It's actually shockingly common.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=057_1200885881 - a documentary on Tranquility Bay

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=10d_1200886926 - Part two

pretty disturbing shit.

There was also an ex-gay camp called Love in Action. And that one had been around since 1975. Sick fucks. With names like "Tranquility Bay" and "Love in Action" you'd think we were living in the dystopian world of 1984.

Next month they're planning to release a documentary about that... torture chamber/asylum/prison abomination. Looks like it's well worth a watch.

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And now, it is time to pay respects to those who were murdered at these awful camps. In most cases, no charges were filed against those responsible for these deaths.

IN MEMORIAM

Kristen Chase, dead at age 16, Challenger

Lorenzo Johnson, dead at age 17, Arizona Boys Ranch

Carlos Ruiz, dead at age 13, VisionQuest

Mario Cano, dead at age 16, VisionQuest

John Vincent Garrison, dead at age 18, VisionQuest

Bernard Reefer, dead, VisionQuest

Robert Zimmerman, dead, VisionQuest

Charles Lucas, dead, VisionQuest

James Lamb, dead, VisionQuest

Tammy Edmiston, dead, VisionQuest

Leon Anger, dead, VisionQuest

Latasha Bush, dead at 15, Daystar Residential Treatment Center

Charles Collins, Jr., dead at age 15, Crossroads for Youth

Jamie Young, dead at age 13, Ramsey Canyon

John Avila, dead, Rocky Mountain Academy

Danny Lewis, dead at age 16, VisionQuest

Edith Campos, dead at age 15, Desert Hills

Matt Toppi, dead at age 17, Robert Land Academy

Chirs Brown, dead at age 16, Robert Land Academy

Eric David Schibley, dead at age 17, VisionQuest

Robert Doyle Erwin, dead at age 15, VisionQuest

Lyle Foodroy, dead, VisionQuest

Michael Wiltsie, dead at age 12, Eckert Youth Alternatives

Tristan Sovern, dead at age 16, Charter Behavioral Health System

Robert Rollins, dead at age 12, Devereaux School

Roberto Reyes, dead at age 15, Thayer Learning Center Boot Camp

Martin Lee Anderson, dead at age 14, Bay County Sheriff's boot camp, Florida

James White, dead at age17, SummitQuest,

Alex Harris, age 13, died of thirst after being forced to run for miles. Numerous times that day, the boy begged for water, complained of pain, and even tried to drink from water fountain before allegedly being dragged away from it.

An anonymous Wisconsin girl died after after being restrained at a mental health facility. Her crime: blowing bubbles in her milk and moving during a time-out.

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Martin Lee Anderson, 14, was beaten to death. Charges were filed, but the jury acquitted everyone involved.

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Omega Leach, 17, strangled to death. After refusing to leave his room, Omega was pushed into the hallway, thrown to the ground, and choked. The staffer then forced him back into his room, where eyewitnesses reported that he slammed Omega’s head into a wall and pinned him facedown on the floor for seven minutes.

Nicholaus Contreraz, 16. The teenager spent the last week of his life complaining of chest pain and difficulty breathing, but had been identified by the staff as a malingerer and punished more when he complained. When the boy sought medical attention for his condition, the camp nurse repeatedly sent him back out with approval to engage in the stringent exercise required of troublesome juveniles. His condition worsened and he began to defecate on himself and vomit frequently. Staff belittled the youth, made him sleep in soiled underwear, made him eat dinner while sitting on a toilet and ordered him to carry a trash basket filled with his soiled clothes and his own vomit. He eventually collapsed and died. The medical examiner ruled Contreraz died of empyema, a buildup of fluid in the lining between his lungs and chest cavity. He was also suffering from strep and staph infections, pneumonia and chronic bronchitis. The coroner noted 71 cuts and bruises on the boy's body. All criminal charges against the staff were dropped.

Paul Choy celebrated his 16th birthday brain dead and on life support. Before he died, a nurse observed injuries consistent with anal rape. Choy was at a center called Rite of Passage, being forced to sit on a wooden platform in the cold for five hours as punishment for failing to finish a five-mile run. That's five hours of shivering and without bathroom breaks. Finally, in reckless desperation, he gave his keepers just the signal they were waiting for. Two staff members restrained him in a full Nelson for about ten minutes, after which time they noticed he wasn't breathing. To make matters worse, a staff member had this to say about the incident:

... Well, you can't just let these punk kids ignore the rules, can you? You gotta put 'em in their place, right? If they're out of control, you restrain 'em, right? When they don't cooperate, you gotta make 'em cooperate, right? And when they come lookin' for trouble, you give 'em trouble. They ain't in boot camp to be mollycoddled, you know, but to learn respect for authority. And I'm not their goddam granny who's gonna give 'em hot coco when they need their butts kicked...

In addition, we have:

Aaron Bacon, 16, abused and neglected until he died of acute peritonitis - an ulcerous meltdown that gradually ate holes in his lower intestine. When his mother went to identify his body,

"His face was unrecognizable," the Phoenix woman sobbed at a hearing in Utah last year. "He had these sunken cheeks, and his eyes, he looked like a skeleton, his hands were all bone. He was literally bruised, black and blue, from the tip of his toes to the top of his head. He had sores between his legs, open sores. The bottoms of his feet, I don't know how anyone could have walked or hiked on them. "His legs were like toothpicks, his hipbones stuck way out, his ribs--he looked like a concentration-camp victim. The only way we were even able to recognize him was a childhood scar above his right eye." I began screaming, because something was terribly wrong."

Michelle Sutton, died of dehydration after being denied water.

Gina Score, forced to run to the point of hyperthermia.

Timithy Thomas, age 9, suffocated while being restrained.

Randy Steele, 9, suffocated while being restrained.

Ian Thomas, 14, died of heatstroke.

Anthony Haynes, 14, died after being dehydrated and forced to eat dirt.

Chase Moody, 17, suffocated while being restrained.

Mikie Garcia, 12, suffocated while being restrained.

Faith Finley, 17, choked on her own vomit while being restrained.

Travis Parker, 13, restrained by three men facedown on the ground for an hour and a half before he stopped breathing. He asked for his asthma inhaler after the first 15 minutes, but staff refused to give it to him. They were later fired and arrested for felony murder.

Linda Harris, 14, was found by paramedics unconscious, with scraped elbows, blood in her mouth, and in physical restraints when they arrived at a facility to try to resuscitate her.

Carlton Eugene Thomas, 17, suffered cardiac arrest after a staff member choked him with a restraining hold. His body was battered and bruised.

Dawnne Takeuchi, thrown from a semi-truck. The VisionQuest counselor driving the supply vehicle was convicted of careless driving and was ordered to pay a mere $270 in restitution.

Andrew McClain, 11, died while being restrained in a Portland, Conn., psychiatric hospital.

Mark Soares, 16, died after workers put him in a headlock at a home for troubled youths in Marlboro, where he was placed because of a history of committing verbal and physical assaults.

Casey Collier, 17, died of asphyxiation after six hospital orderlies restrained him by sitting on his back, legs and shoulders.

Rest in peace. Your deaths will not be in vain. We will spread the word.

Teens have been hogtied, forced to eat their own vomit, made to sit in isolation in their own urine and feces, starved, shoved into fire ant nests, and dragged from behind vans. No more. We cannot allow this to continue. I suggest that everyone here cross-posts a topic on every message board you are subscribed to, and encourage the readers there to do the same. Spread the word, make it viral, Twitter, Facebook, anything. Make it impossible to ignore. Only then will justice be served.

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