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  1. Dreadknux

    Sorry guys for lack of new theme Friday and maybe for the next week... because of som

    Sorry guys for lack of new theme Friday and maybe for the next week... because of some awesome news... I'm going to be a DAD.
    23 points
  2. lmao holy fuck my mom found in one of her (many, many, many, many, many) bags two brand new, unopened gamecube controllers that my dad bought me likely over 15 years ago. (they were in her stuff b/c she's always disliked me playing video games) i saw those controllers once. searched for them for years. at some point i pretty much gave up on ever finding them. FFS
    15 points
  3. JezMM

    Sonic Unleashed is getting over rated

    Hellloooo huge Unleashed fan here, this argument comes around so often it's getting kinda tiresome, so I'll try to be concise as to what I've observed and feel myself about this. A person who says Unleashed is underrated is usually in one of the following camps: They know the night stuff is bad, you don't need to tell them. But what they're actually saying is that the gameplay of said daytime stages is the best the boost gameplay has ever been (or even the best Sonic gameplay has been, rarely) what they want to see out of the series as a focus, and their frustration that no game since has provided as such. Colours and Forces both have simplified, lower difficulty level design with significantly less 3D gameplay and thrilling setpieces. Generations' Act 2s pretty much provide the experience they're after, but that's still another case where it's only half the game. This fan is getting frustrated that Unleashed is getting thrown to the dogs in its entirety due to the night gameplay, and disagrees that Sonic Team were successful in "taking the good parts of Unleashed and leaving the rest" when they made Colours. Apparently 3D/challenging gameplay was not considered good, and this fan says otherwise. They actually think the night gameplay is fine or even the best as far as gimmicky alternate gameplay styles go (you know, that thing that Adventure and Adventure 2 tend to get a free pass on all the time - maybe not in the bigger picture of the internet but certainly within the fandom - in comparison to Unleashed, anyway). This fan is arguing that the whole game is good, which of course is entirely subjective, but it's still a valid opinion. Somewhere between the two above extremes are fans who just feel it's a game of very high highs and very low lows - but the lows are completely tolerable in the context of the highs. And they'd take that over a game where there are no high highs or low lows - just a tepid experience all the way through. They might well think both day and night have their good bits and bad bits, but that the former moments make up for the latter. And then finally there's the consideration of beyond just "day vs night" argument, that can tie into almost any of the above positions. That is, for many Unleashed fans, it's not just about the day and night gameplay, but everything - the sense of adventure, the narrative, the aesthetics and vividness of the locations. It's easy to simplify down to "the day gameplay vs the night gameplay" but for many people it's more like "the day gameplay and the soundtrack and the atmosphere and the environments and the cute little NPC side stories and the amount of content on offer when DLC is factored in too and that amazing opening cut-scene... vs the night gameplay". It's much easier to see the downfalls of the night gameplay as a lesser issue in that context. In spite of all this though, as much as I too want it in general and would happily take it over Colours Ultimate, anyone who says that they were wrong to do Colours Ultimate over an Unleashed remaster is living in a fantasy world. Like I hear you, I have more fun with Unleashed too, but the wider populace clearly disagrees, so of course SEGA should've done Colours.
    14 points
  4. Wraith

    Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - DADDY SAKURAI'S WILD RIDE HAS CONCLUDED

    YOU'VE GIVEN MEEEEE TOOO MAAAAANY THINGS LATELY YOU'RE ALLL I NEEEEEEEEEEDD YOU SMILED AT ME AND SAID.
    12 points
  5. Zaysho

    Mystery Sonic 2022 Game - Teaser Trailer

    Worth noting we banned Zippo outright for basically lying about contacting the staff to validate his claims. He did contact a couple TSS staff members, but nothing was ever verified per Dreadknux's post. I think we should move on discussing his claims altogether. Nothing wrong if people are curious, but if he says something on his blog or elsewhere it's probably a mixture of wish-fulfillment and the general fandom zeitgeist rather than solid insider information (my personal, recent favorite that was quoted on some gaming news site that he called for a September Nintendo Direct... because there's usually one in September). He's not a trustworthy source, and his attitude when questioned about these things in the past is enough reason to write him off.
    10 points
  6. Zaysho

    Throwaway from a few months ago I like enough to at least post here.

    Throwaway from a few months ago I like enough to at least post here.
    10 points
  7. JezMM

    Sonic Colours Ultimate Megathread

    Since we're on the topic of slow-paced platforming, I wanna talk about something that's been eating away at me for a decade but I always forget to talk about. The launchers in Starlight Carnival. What the hell are those things? The first one you encounter launches you up off-screen and to the left, and then you awkwardly have to navigate back into the stage with no visual cues whatsoever - failing to do so might drop you back onto the same launcher for another go. It's such a bizarre and non-intuitive moment that almost feels like the game has made a mistake. And then the second lot, there's three in a row. You land on the first, it launches you to the 3rd. The 3rd then launches you to the second. The 2nd then launches you to the next area. Now, with foreknowledge of this, you can leap straight over to the 2nd one, or (if I recall) even dodge the trigger zones for them altogether and hop straight up to the next area if you're clever (but at least the first of the two, if I'm remembering that wrong). But without that foreknowledge, it's just such a weird setpiece. It's like an automated thrillride section except there's no thrillride or spectacle. You just sit and watch Sonic get flung around excruciatingly slowly for about 20 seconds. These parts have always just stuck out to me as a totally bizarre thing considering they would have had to have been planned, designed, programmed, tested, and at no point during development did anyone say "this is a really stupid piece of level design". Sonic has always had a tendancy to fill each zone with a bunch of unique "platforming toys". The classics are full of them, some fun (the bouncy platforms in Ice Cap, the popping bubbles in Collision Chaos), and some that are just kind of odd, like the developers were just going with any idea for a unique movement they could come up with even if it wasn't particularly fun (the springy balls in Game Land that release a single ring at a time when hit but otherwise don't really do anything, the platforms in Flying Battery that have a really unique appearance but then their whole thing turns out to just be... "raises up slightly and then goes down to the next area" as if that's like... somehow more engaging than just a regular platform that just goes down when stepped upon). If the "platforming toys" spectrum goes from "fun, interactive, full of potential variety of use" to "uh... yeah that's a thing that can happen in a level sometimes I guess", the launchers of Starlight Carnival are probably on the absolute tail-end of that spectrum and I feel like they're the poster-child of half-baked ideas that Colours tends to present at times. Even though there's nothing offensive in Colours and everyone tends to have a fun time with it, stuff like these add up over time and I think it's the reason why, for a hard to pinpoint reason, no-one really ever says Colours stands tall among the platforming greats even though it's such a non-offensive and "generally fine" game. I hope this hyper-specific rant speaks to at least one other person than me. At least said launchers only show up those two times illustrated above, lol.
    10 points
  8. Much as I still enjoy Sonic as a whole, it feels like I'm starting to fall off on it when I look at a discussion thread and my eyes glaze over. I imagine I'll want to talk about it again in some form when there's an actual new game to look at but it's nice taking a break to do other things and have fun with my other interests. And at least Sonic stuff is still fun to draw for me so it's never too far from my mind.
    9 points
  9. Lady Marie

    Hello! I just realized I haven't made an intro post on this site yet haha. I'm Marie

    Hello! I just realized I haven't made an intro post on this site yet haha. I'm Marie and my biggest hobbies are anime, video games, cosplay, and writing. Here's a link to my cardd if you want to learn more about me: https://ladymarie.carrd.co I also wrote a fanfic recently based on Resident Evil: Village if you would like to read it! https://archiveofourown.org/works/34242202/chapters/85195291 Anyway, it's nice to meet you! ☺️
    9 points
  10. Enesephus

    Mystery Sonic 2022 Game - Teaser Trailer

    I'm not really concerned about the lack of information just because as far as I can tell, SEGA have pretty much always waited until a Sonic game was within a year of release, and usually only about 6 months away, to even reveal it, let alone start dishing out real information or game footage regarding it. At least, that's been the case since around Unleashed (I know '06 was revealed earlier, but I doubt there was much information on that until the following year, either). I'm pretty sure the only reason they've started revealing their games sooner is because now production's taking so long they're missing anniversary years, and they feel the need to show us at least something regarding the upcoming game, even if that something's not really anything at all, just so we're not going too many years on end without even an update on the main series. I'm just gonna wait to see the game and SEGA's marketing for it after its proper reveal before deciding whether I should be super worried about its quality. I definitely wish they'd give us more information sooner, but that's just not how SEGA rolls, apparently.
    8 points
  11. Smult's roster is absolutely unprecedented and should be considered a gift to its fans, not a promise to carry over to the future indefinitely. This isn't Dragon Ball FighterZ where there's a clear line who owns what and where things come from to make it work. Companies like Square are rumored to have been difficult to work with just finishing the base roster with Cloud, and the fact that the real representation for FF7 didn't come around until after Sephiroth was added to the game two years later--including Cloud's PS1 artwork--does lend to that. Sora must have been a nightmare to figure out, let alone to be added in much better than expected circumstances no less, but we can't just expect agreements to roll over in perpetuity for every Smash game. There's multiple cooks in the kitchen with just that character, with Disney asserting ownership of him but still requiring Square and Nomura to sign off on usage. Could they do it again? Maybe. Should we expect it? Absolutely not. My personal ideal is somehow holding things together long enough to release Smult again on the Switch's eventual successor for an encore run and then being done with it, but I would not at all begrudge Nintendo, Bamco, Sora Ltd., et al. if they couldn't make it happen. There are so many caveats involved that I don't think it's fair to expect this to continue even if they managed it this time.
    8 points
  12. Okay, when I first heard people talking about "Squid Game" I just thought it was a quirky online way of saying Splatoon.
    8 points
  13. Gonna say it, pass 2 has not missed once. I know there's bias because I got what I wanted, but I genuinely liked everything that was added, even stuff I didn't actively care about like Sephiroth or Sora. This pass just feels like it's for everybody, and I liked Hero and Banjo in pass 1, and appreciate Terry but Joker and Byleth didn't do anything for me. We got one of ARMS's fan favorites, we got something as fucking weird as Steve, we got Cloud's stalker, we got the Aegis girls, we got Kazuya with his ridiculous moveset, we got the impossible boy. Glad it ended on a bang. $30 well spent.
    8 points
  14. Jovahexeon Jax Joranvexeon

    Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - DADDY SAKURAI'S WILD RIDE HAS CONCLUDED

    Why is this so goddamn heartwarming?
    8 points
  15. Zaysho

    Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - DADDY SAKURAI'S WILD RIDE HAS CONCLUDED

    It's there.
    8 points
  16. Kuzu

    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog - Megathread

    Tails has literally been front and center with Sonic for over ten years across all media. The idea that he's "neglected" in any shape or form is laughable when he's by far the most prominent character in the series besides Sonic and Eggman.
    7 points
  17. Roger_van_der_weide

    Mystery Sonic 2022 Game - Teaser Trailer

    The thing that makes a returning Infinite interesting to me is that I always got the impression that the infinite we "know and love" was a very last minute change and he was never really intended to be a proper character. Reading the early dtory drafts of Forces, or heck, just playing the main game ignoring Shadow's episode, and they treat him like he's just an unremarkable machine Eggman made that happens to be powered by an important power source. It's the Phantom Ruby/ Voltron stone that gets all the focus while Infinite is usually dismissed as an Eggman machine, with Infinite clones being created in a lab (Still happens in the finished game, in the final level you pass trough a room with science tubes, with Amy lamenting Infinite was created here and never had friends as a result or something. A story element that doesn't really match with the backstory Infinite gets in Episode Shadow) I really get the impression Infinite was never meant to be a proper character but merely a Metal Sonic esque Robot, to be cloned and destroyed and dismissed with no thought. This is all headcanon, but I'm willing to bet that the art designers made infinite look "too cool" and the popular theme song made Sonic Team reconsider Infinite's position as throwaway Egg robot and awkwardly added Shadow's episode at the last moment to suddenly give him a more proper "character" context in the story rather then him just being a dismisable generic robot. So in that regard, I'd be curious what they'll do if Inifnite comes back. Since his part in Forces was not written with the later added backstory in mind, we'd get a proper story written for him as a character. Not that I have much hope with that. With exception of Shadow, whenever a deeper story element returns in a later game, it's usually dumbed down or completely broken. Heck, Shadow's both an exception AND a victim of this, depending on the game.
    7 points
  18. Shade Vortex

    Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - DADDY SAKURAI'S WILD RIDE HAS CONCLUDED

    Difference is that they can't do this "bigger and better" thing forever- eventually, the amount of time, money and work put into it would not be worth the return on such a massive investment. Development bloat is a problem every big franchise eventually faces and it's already reared its ugly head for Smash Ultimate: Spirits replacing trophies, no text info on the characters for the spirits, and all sorts of other concessions had to be made for "Everyone is here" to be possible. Fact is that it just isn't logistically feasible. Even Sakurai himself warned that they probably wouldn't be able to do something like this again. They have to nip the problem in the bud before "always bigger and better" becomes the expectation, because people ARE going to be faced with a smaller roster at SOME point again (but it will likely see major gameplay changes to justify its existence).
    7 points
  19. Zaysho

    (tweet) she's right

    (tweet) she's right
    7 points
  20. VisionaryofSUPER

    Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Movie - General Discussion

    It was the way the redditor specifically played off "Golden Sonic" and "Black Sonic" in vague terms talking about how they don't know a lot about the Sonic franchise. He said he didn't know the signifigance of these things, but he just assumed they were important. The thing that tips me off is that it's just trying too hard to feign ignorance. Someone who doesn't care enough about NDA to break it, but not saavy enough to do a simple google search of "golden Sonic" and "black Sonic" to tell they are easily two of the biggest concepts in this series. It comes across less as pure ignorance as it does just acting. Not to mention, the whole mention of "Golden Sonic" is suspiciously contradictory to how we saw the final battle play out in the early leaks. (With the gang clearly rolling up into balls for a clear group attack.)
    7 points
  21. AWild No.1 washed up gamer

    ....i feel like I'm the last one to notice this:

    ....i feel like I'm the last one to notice this:
    7 points
  22. phobs

    Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Movie - General Discussion

    The first look at the movie was shown to Exhibitors of CineEurope. This is likely indicator that the first trailer is coming very soon, probably this or next month https://twitter.com/3CFilm/status/1445769521835307011?s=20
    7 points
  23. Ryannumber1Scarer

    Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - DADDY SAKURAI'S WILD RIDE HAS CONCLUDED

    The vocal songs have a reason - they're licensed tracks created by a popular Japanese pop star, so getting them in would've made them jump through more hoops.
    7 points
  24. Zulon Eredas

    Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Movie - General Discussion

    Lee Majdoub confirmed to be returning as Agent Stone. https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-2-sequel-agent-stone-lee-majdoub/
    7 points
  25. Jovahexeon Jax Joranvexeon

    Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - DADDY SAKURAI'S WILD RIDE HAS CONCLUDED

    I think both sides need to really stop looking for a pattern. It could literally be anything from a giant crowd pleaser to a niche character. Neither outcome has been the consistent factor throughout all Smash games. And everytime somebody tries to predict a Smash character based off of "past rules", they often end up with egg on their face.
    7 points
  26. View-count-wise, the new Kirby game was far and away the most viewed official YouTube video from the Nintendo Direct. It makes my heart happy.
    7 points
  27. tailsBOOM!

    Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - DADDY SAKURAI'S WILD RIDE HAS CONCLUDED

    He isn't a Nick All-Star's person... he's a Melee pro who's petty about Ultimate. Despite being a 35 year-old leader of the community, he has such mature takes as unironically using the sword argument to say people should be spamming Nintendo instead of being happy about Sephiroth: He doesn't even play Ultimate, and much like what the competitive Melee community did back after the Brawl community helped them get into EVO, he's trying to bury the Ultimate community (It isn't even a big secret that this happened back then). He's what I call a "Melee elitist," and the fact this 35 year-old manchild is able to act like he's a hormonal teenager in a Twitch chat just because he's good at Smash is beyond frustrating.
    7 points
  28. VisionaryofSUPER

    Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Movie - General Discussion

    Mario. Quality be damned, illumination know how to market their movies. The majority of their film budgets are dedicated to marketing before everything else. Combine that with the powerhouse of Nintendo who are definitely going to do their part promoting the movie. The weak link of the second Sonic movie will be the marketing. While Paramount are definitely going to push harder than the first movie, we've seen them struggling with balancing out their streaming and theatrical features. We kind of have to wait and see if they really want to give Sonic that push, or if they hold back because they've been burned a lot this year. And then there's SEGA who are kind of useless when it comes to reaching younger fans with proper promotion. Their best promos have been with their older fans who I think are already into checking out the next movie. Then there's Sonic 2's international reach. The international run of the first movie was stunted by the pandemic, so we have to see the impact streaming did to encourage people/kids to want to go watch the 2nd film. A lot is gonna matter on Paramount's desire to reach. Sonic is bound to be their biggest hit of the first part of the year, but how big it will be will be on their confidence to pull out all the stops.
    7 points
  29. BRAND NEW THEME ALERT. This one is absolutely brand new - Mighty the Armadillo finally gets a character theme. Check out the 'Armachillo' option in the Theme Select!
    7 points
  30. Mega

    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog - Megathread

    Cringe culture is stupid and immature, and people have a right to care about representation. :u It matters to a lot of people, and I think especially for a book targeted at kids, it's good to have more cool female characters. The Sonic cast has always had more dudes in it, and I think it's neat that IDW balances things out more while having a good range of characters. Anyway, I also think "only male hedgehogs can go super" is stupid. Especially when Knuckles, of all people, should at least be able to transform given his ties to the emerald. ...Plus, a super Amy would be awesome.
    7 points
  31. VisionaryofSUPER

    Sonic Prime coming to Netflix in 2022

    Being a consultant basically means he's there for fact checking and referencing. He wouldn't be directly involved in influencing the writing of future episodes, but writers can go to him if they have questions or want some advice.
    6 points
  32. Mobotropolis

    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog - Megathread

    Bunnie's character arc was about her accepting who/what she was. Belle's is more about getting others to accept who/what she is. They have completely different personalities and abilities, too. Not really a believer that we have/are getting copies of the old characters in the current book. Figure the staff doesn't want what was happened with NU 252; people doing more time comparing the two books and their characters than getting a feel for who the new characters are. They've worked almost four years to make this book distinguishable from Archie. Even with the most obvious one about the come into play, I'd wager she's going to be somewhat different.
    6 points
  33. Well, after having been delayed for over a year by reality, opening night for the play I'm is here! It's Young Frankenstein the Musical, and I'll be playing the one and only monster! I'm glad to finally be here!
    6 points
  34. The creator of God of War and Twisted Metal got stuck in the first 20 mins of Metriod Dread and has been going through cope mode
    6 points
  35. Honestly the fact that the was a real blurb at an official panel pisses me off everytime I see it. Like it just feels like cheap pandering to the anti Sonic critics and damn disrespectful to all the work various people put in to games prior, yeah a lot of those games weren't great but I would think a company should put on a veneer of dignity when regarding their flagship franchise instead of patting yourselves on the back for making a "3D" game where Sonic "finds his footing" 12 years and 6 games after you started trying.
    6 points
  36. Diogenes

    Mystery Sonic 2022 Game - Teaser Trailer

    Which doesn't matter since the last story undoes the whole thing. She "dies" to clean up Silver's mess, gets removed from the story entirely despite timespace fuckery bringing every other relevant character together, and it doesn't even matter. And nobody even knows why she was there in the first place. It's a complete mess.
    6 points
  37. VisionaryofSUPER

    Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Movie - General Discussion

    This is that old "leak" post from a month back. I know after my own research I concluded it was fake so I'm not giving it the time of day.
    6 points
  38. Kazhnuz

    Mystery Sonic 2022 Game - Teaser Trailer

    I'm quite mitigated on this. Well, in a way, I wouldn't be surprised if the Sonic Team wanted to do that, and its true that the different elements can make us think about him (virtual themes, for instance). And Toyoda seems to have now an important role in handling Sonic storytelling (even if we can't be sure that he conceptualised Forces story as there is another japanese writer), so maybe he is writing Rangers too (and tbh, I wouldn't be unhappy to see his work without Pontaff interference, I love his story on the Sonic Channel) But they also seems to go in a new direction for this game, so I would tend to think that they'll certainly go in a quite different way about story too. And the few other "story elements" that we have in the same leak that talk about the music seems to go in another direction than "Infinite is back", imo. So maybe that the "virtual" theme are for some kind of "ancient vs/+ technology" aesthetic (which is quite the vibe that the trailer got). So, I don't think he'll be there, but I wouldn't be surprised to be wrong. About the story, if I had to make a wild, certainly wrong guess:
    6 points
  39. nobukitsu88

    Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Movie - General Discussion

    In a way, the coming days and weeks are already around the parade in terms of marketing before it happens. Usually you don't drop a trailer the day of, so even one month before is enough time for talk to circulate and get the buzz started, then in November you get another reminder when the parade happens and the announcers share that it is Sonic's 30th, and has a new movie coming. I feel like this month and next month are both candidates in their own ways.
    6 points
  40. PC the Hedgehog

    Got a response back from the publishing company who asked to read my novel manuscript

    Got a response back from the publishing company who asked to read my novel manuscript. They said if I can make the plot more cohesive, they might consider publishing it! Holy crap holy crap holy crap I gots work to do
    6 points
  41. Zaysho

    WHAT IS THIS 7-D CHESS BULLSHIT SAKURAI HAS BEEN PLAYING THE WHOLE TIME (tweet)

    WHAT IS THIS 7-D CHESS BULLSHIT SAKURAI HAS BEEN PLAYING THE WHOLE TIME (tweet)
    6 points
  42. knuckles20

    Mystery Sonic 2022 Game - Teaser Trailer

    And we've been hearing the "get Sonic right first" excuse since 2010. Honestly if we do get more playable characters (not counting DIY avatar) then I want them available from the start, because the Shadow DLC in Forces was so brief and underwhelming. Also with Rangers being an open world game, we could finally get a honest to god 3D game in years; one that isn't reliant on 2D sections taking up more than half the game.
    6 points
  43. Wraith

    Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - DADDY SAKURAI'S WILD RIDE HAS CONCLUDED

    I don't remember who the other characters in the pass are anymroe I paid 30 dollars for Sora. I wish they asked for more
    6 points
  44. CrownSlayer’s Shadow

    Archie Sonic Main Discussion

    You know, as much as it sucks we’ll never see Finitivus again, I gotta say that his last appearance feels…”complete” in a vague way. We obviously never get to see the full extent of his plans, but it still feels good to see that he actually gets to complete the stories that he does show up in instead of getting abruptly ended due to outside circumstances. Is that just me?
    6 points
  45. Jango

    Mystery Sonic 2022 Game - Teaser Trailer

    Hundred games got cameos in that ad. But Sonic of all of them is getting a deal with Sony. Classic Zippo bullshit. He even has the audacity to end his post with: "iF yOu SeE ZiS gUy's ViDeO rEporT iT cuZ its fAKe". Ah, bite me.
    6 points
  46. I'm not sure if that statement is meant to be a hint or not, but if so it could still be a Japanese character if it's an indie or something. Look, I just think it'd be cool if Quote made it in, okay?
    6 points
  47. Mauro Fonseca

    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog - Megathread

    Man people just love any excuse they can get to go "man fuck those japanese", right? You're really going from "the best Shadow content lately is the Japanese exclusive story written online" to "those Japanese don't know what they're doing" at the drop of a dime because SoJ got mentioned? Boy, can't let go that Tom Kalinske got told to take a hike 30 years ago because he was the genius and the techniques used by SoA were the perfect ones and truly there was nothing wrong that wouldn't crash after a few years because they were toy-selling, immediate-result-at-cost-of-duration techniques seen in a dozen other fad toys in America!
    6 points
  48. AWild No.1 washed up gamer

    First look at Mario and yoshi in the 2022 Mario movie:

    First look at Mario and yoshi in the 2022 Mario movie:
    6 points
  49. Zaysho

    What do you think of Dillian Thomas rant against Ian Flynn

    I honestly forgot about this thread, but I don't think dumb YouTuber whose entire personality is hating a comic book writer needs more attention than they've already gotten. Locking. Removing the videos as well since they don't need the views lol
    6 points
  50. SBR2

    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog - Megathread

    Yeah why would anyone want more female characters in a franchise? Women existing is so cringe. *eyeroll*
    6 points


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