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  1. Zulon Eredas

    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog - Megathread

    More IDW related rather then Sonic, but going forward IDW will be distributing via Random House rather then Diamond. https://www.gamesradar.com/idw-moves-comic-book-store-distribution-to-penguin-random-house/
    3 points
  2. CrownSlayer’s Shadow

    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog - Megathread

    Funny enough, that’s where I first found Archie Sonic when I was little—at a grocery store. Although now with things also going digital, that might help double as advertising. Miss your chance to buy it physically? We have it it online!
    2 points
  3. Endy

    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog - Megathread

    diamond publishing is or was a monopoly on comic book distribution has a really fucked up way of distributing comics that puts far more risk on the part of stores than needed and encourage mostly buying pre established guaranteed sellers. They also just straight up won't let shops order certain comics unless they're buying above a certain threshold which just makes new comics entering the market incredibly difficult. They are a large contributing factor as to why American comics are dominated by few specific genres and characters. and all of this is compounded by poor service that makes a company that is bad for shops, consumers and creatives and for whatever reason they only like to distribute comics to specialty comic book stores, which, while shipping to comic book specialty stores comes with many advantages compared to book stores, grocery stores and news stands and whatever, most of the audience that will go there are sweaty nerds so thats who comics will cater to. I can only see IDW switching to Penguin benefitting Sonic because as a child I sure as hell did not go in to comic book stores, the only reason I ever got my hands on the Archie comic was because they were available in places I would regularly be.
    2 points
  4. AWild No.1 washed up gamer

    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog - Megathread

    Belle has a metal arm. Interesting. How many issues will it take to rescue her from Dr. Wechinda?
    2 points
  5. Curse of Franken Frog CC14

    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog - Megathread

    December solicitations, including #47 and that compilation that was leaked a while ago: Sonic the Hedgehog #47—Cover A: Adam Bryce Thomas Evan Stanley (w & a) • Adam Bryce Thomas (c) The ROAD TO #50 continues here! Enjoy a TEN-ISSUE-long adventure leading up to the EPIC SHOWDOWN in milestone issue #50. Amy, Tangle, Jewel, and Belle's peaceful camping trip is still up in flames… literally. The fire is blazing but all the tension from before has melted away and the heroines are ready to save the day! Plus, being confronted with such danger has some reevaluating their futures… Find out more in the final part of "Trial by Fire"! FC • 32 pages • $3.99 Sonic The Hedgehog: Sonic & Tails: Best Buds Forever Ian Flynn; Evan Stanley (w) • Tracy Yardley, Adam Bryce Thomas, Evan Stanley (a) • Evan Stanley (c) Can't wait to see the best friends ever meet on the big screen? Get ready by reading their greatest adventures in this must-have comic collection! Sonic the Hedgehog and Miles "Tails" Prower. Best friends through thick and thin, they've always got each other's backs. Celebrate the terrific twosome with these three high-speed, high-flying tales full of action and adrenaline. First, Dr. Eggman is missing, but his rogue robots are still running amok, and only Sonic can stop them. But he can't do it without Tails! Then, the best buds are trying to take a break, but something stinks. Looks like baddies can have best friends too! And finally, Tails and Sonic explore an abandoned Dr. Eggman base, but they're not alone! Can they trust the intruder? No worries. If thirty years of friendship has proven anything, it's that they'll be fine as long as they've got each other! Collects Sonic the Hedgehog issues #1, 13, 34, and 35. TPB • FC • $7.99 • 96 pages • 5.6" x 8.5" • ISBN: 978-1-68405-894-5 Bullet points: Available in February 2022. Second cover is SUPER cute. Love the attention to detail with the snacks.
    2 points
  6. Milo

    [ARTWORK] Milo's Museum

    As of late I try not to update so soon with little art, but I'm making an exception. My birthday was yesterday and I made some art to commemorate it. Birthday Host Excuse the fire, that’s just how things usually turn out when you have R.T.J. (Ronda “Teleganza” Jackson for long, T. J. Ronda for mid) as your host. (If you're curious, yes, she is a new OC of mine.) “Chaotic calm” seems to be the usual atmosphere that follows her, wherever she goes and whatever gigs she presents. (It doesn’t help that she acts as her gigs as a host or saleswoman, both on-and-off camera...and it seems reality even acts that way too, with the bizarre, sometimes lethal incidents that follow her around.
    2 points
  7. Blue Blood

    The Jade Ghost theme is pretty cool.

    The Jade Ghost theme is pretty cool.
    1 point
  8. PC the Hedgehog

    80s/90s kids, was there a time you feel that media (TV, games, movies, etc.) just qui

    80s/90s kids, was there a time you feel that media (TV, games, movies, etc.) just quit being magical? For me, that was probably around 2003/2004 or so.
    1 point
  9. SBR2

    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog - Megathread

    Same. I bought Sonic #140 at a Walgreens when I was like 14 and that was my first Sonic comic. Hell even beyond Sonic I started reading comics thanks to the double issue flip books they had at Walmart. I had several issues of New Avengers, Ghost Rider and Ultimate Spider-Man through those. Man I miss those.
    1 point
  10. Jovahexeon Jax Joranvexeon

    I'm honestly surprised it took us this long to get a Kingdom Hearts sketch in Robot C

    I'm honestly surprised it took us this long to get a Kingdom Hearts sketch in Robot Chicken.
    1 point
  11. SenEDDtor Missile

    As indifferent as I am to Lost World, I find myself really like Dr. Eggman's final bo

    As indifferent as I am to Lost World, I find myself really like Dr. Eggman's final boss music a bit more than a lot of his other ones for some reason. Maybe it's because of the solo violin aspect is very distinct compared to his usual bombastic trumpets and horns.
    1 point
  12. Ferno

    ~~satisfaction~~

    ~~satisfaction~~
    1 point
  13. Yuji Naka working on a new game solo: Not much info besides that. Lots of people QRT'ing him getting angry/poking fun about how he is "incompetent" for needing to do this. Programming takes time, and you can always improve at it, so I don't see why people would say this unless they're ignorant. It's probably a good thing to do to touch-base with game design, I'd say.
    1 point
  14. Zoomzeta

    Yuji Naka working on a new game right now

    So a bit unrelated to Sonic games right now, but apparently Mr.Naka had not retired yet. He's apparently working on a phone game on his own all by himself.
    1 point
  15. Mauro Fonseca

    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog - Megathread

    Wechnia (wek-nia), not wechidna
    1 point
  16. The Sonic Symphony soundtrack is now available in iTunes! I think I died and gone to heaven!
    1 point
  17. SBR2

    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog - Megathread

    Good. More companies need to.
    1 point
  18. StaticMania

    Knuckles was never Sonic's friend... Just a side piece.

    Knuckles was never Sonic's friend... Just a side piece.
    1 point
  19. Milo

    For those who missed it, art update.

    For those who missed it, art update.
    1 point
  20. PaddyFancy

    Sonic Symphony album up on iTunes and Apple Music now, expected on other services soo

    Sonic Symphony album up on iTunes and Apple Music now, expected on other services soon.
    1 point
  21. CaptainRobo

    Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Movie - General Discussion

    Probably. Also, they might be in the movie, however, they didn't do an tie-in promotion for the movie. Instead, Jack in the Box did it.: Also, they could get a much bigger fast food chain. Jack in the Box is not an nationwide fast food chain. They only have restaurants in certain states. They don't have locations in states like New York. Here are the full list of the locations. The numbers means the numbers of locations that each state have. Also, I made this little concept for fun. I could see this happening.
    1 point
  22. MetalSkulkBane

    What would your ideal Sonic Comic look like?

    1) Full respect to Fleetway Online, but I don't think it's a good written comic 2) From what I recall she had very limited screen time. 2 back up stories and several cameos. 3) That's kinda my point? She needs to be grey, not full good or bad.
    1 point
  23. Rabbitearsblog

    Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Movie - General Discussion

    To be fair, nobody at time was certain that the first movie would be successful, so doing any kind of merchandising for the first movie might have been a disaster if the first movie bombed since they would have put in so much money into the merchandising for the first movie. Now that the first movie proved to be a massive success, there's a lot more effort to do the merchandising for the second movie. Also, IDW probably didn't do any merchandising for the first movie at the time because the Sonic comic book series was still relatively new at the time, so it probably didn't make any sense to promote the movie at the time, when the comic book series was still new.
    1 point
  24. Snowragnarok

    What would your ideal Sonic Comic look like?

    She IS a complete villain in STC-O, however… and I didn’t like that characterization one bit. She felt generic there as a full villain, basically Fang because the real Fang had become a slimy politician and lost interest in just thievery.
    1 point
  25. SBR2

    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog - Megathread

    True but you'll take Bi Eggman from my cold dead hands. XD
    1 point
  26. Sonictrainer

    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog - Megathread

    Yet Another alternate Cover Reveal for 45
    1 point
  27. TheOcelot

    Tumblr/Twitter Sonic's latest exploits

    All the answers to the questions in the latest twitter takeover:
    1 point
  28. Ryannumber1Scarer

    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog - Megathread

    It wouldn’t matter, Eggman already remembers and knows about everything he did as Mr. Tinkerer, he even finds himself fondly thinking about it when Sonic calls him out on it back on the Metal Virus arc, and Eggman quickly denies he enjoyed it, stating his work in instilling a new world order was more important. It’s not like with Metal Sonic where Eggman had his memories gone and his personality essentially suppressed, and seeing Metal was the right stimuli to trigger his memories to return, Eggman knows about his time as Tinkerer and recognises Belle as one of his robots, he just doesn’t care.
    1 point
  29. Wraith

    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog - Megathread

    I really enjoy this issue but I've basically enjoyed every time they've given us another piece of the Belle puzzle. Really like how the Belle/Starline stuff is progressing personally.
    1 point
  30. Diogenes

    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog - Megathread

    I think it's worth noting that they're framing Lost Hex as essentially a prison for the D6, somewhere they can't leave and thus can't go around hurting anyone. I feel like that's a pretty satisfying resolution for the issue; it gets them out of the picture without compromising on Sonic's morals, and it's a plausible enough barrier that I can buy them being stuck there until the writers decide they want them back and contrive a way out for them. On the subject of jailing villains in general, though, it's not something that sits entirely well with me. As much as you can make a practical argument for it, as Wraith said, that's just not how Sonic operates, it contradicts his morals almost as much as killing does. Having him participate in a deliberate, organized system of imprisoning people, even bad guys, just fundamentally does not feel like Sonic. And it's hard to imagine coming from most of the other heroes as well, even if they're not on quite the same extreme pro-freedom wavelength that Sonic is. I wouldn't say that it can't come up at all, necessarily, but I can only really see it existing on the periphery, a matter for the few characters who would believably resort to it, not something routinely used and accepted by the main cast. And on solving the whole "what to do with villains" question within this series, I can only think of one way to resolve it that even has a chance at feeling satisfying. If they can't prove Sonic wrong, the only thing left is to prove him right. And not simply by having him maintain the status quo, not simply by having him always stop the villain before anything too bad happens, but they need to show that his beliefs actually have a positive effect, that people can change, and that that's valueable enough to outweigh the risk of villains continuing to do evil. The problem, though, is in how to do it. First off becuse I don't see any currently existing villains switching sides any time soon, secondly because the series already had a bit of a habit of its villains turning good before this whole issue was raised. If pointing out Shadow's redemption back in issue 6 or whatever it was didn't solve the problem, then they'd need to find a way to take that worn-out trope and outdo themselves strong enough to make it work. And maybe that can be pulled off, but maybe it's more trouble than it'd be worth and it'd be better if they just dropped the whole thing and moved on.
    1 point
  31. Mauro Fonseca

    IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog - Megathread

    Not to say you have to like Starline or anything, moreso just something that confuses me about a lot of the discourse against him I see. Starline was very clearly always intended to turn against Eggman, you guys know this, right? Pretty much as soon as his second appearance he's going "huh why's Eggman doing this? Oh must be because he truly is a genius", it was clear from the start the direction was going to go in "he sours on Eggman"- the fresh twist was that he does it in more of a spurned lover way of "Eggman's brilliant but held back by himself, I'll prove by example how good he could be even if that means I'm fighting him for now". Again, you're free to dislike that direction, I'm just confused by how so much of the discourse I see treats it like "Starline was great in the first year, then Ian decided to change him and he's bad now" like the direction wasn't obvious early on
    1 point
  32. Dreadknux

    Sonic Colors Ultimate Review Scores Thread

    I think this is a good point worth bringing up, because the chat online lately has become "why didn't any reviewers see the terribleness of these glitches"? For my part, regarding my TSS review, there's a simple explanation for that. I just didn't experience anything major. I might have been exceptionally lucky, but honestly, 99% of my time with Sonic Colours Ultimate was perfectly fine. That's not to say there weren't glitches and weirdness going on (as I mention in my review) but it wasn't anything game-breaking. And, as many reviewers were also playing on the PS4 version of the game, I expect this is true of many others who reviewed the game. There's audio glitches, a few scaffolding disappearances (I only experienced one major instance of this), and the rare instance of Sonic hilariously darting OOB, but these amount to only a couple of 'WTF' moments that don't really impact your play (unless you were going for that S Rank in which case, you'll curse a bit). But mostly, you'll just laugh and move on. I've played SCU for a solid week since my review and have encountered nothing like what people are seeing on the Nintendo Switch version, I promise you. Now, of course there are people who are getting weird game save corruption on PS4/5 too, I've personally never experienced that and I'm not taking anything away from that issue (that is a critical issue and it really sucks) but it seems to be happening to an extremely small number of people. Definitely doesn't seem to have happened to any reviewers anyway. And I think the default conclusion to take here when reviews don't mention things like this is simply, "They didn't experience it" rather than "they were clearly lying/hiding/shilling for SEGA." What benefit would a reviewer have to do any of that, lol? Can't speak for anyone who reviewed the Switch version though. Seems like there were some issues there beyond that epilepsy-inducing one.
    1 point
  33. shdowhunt60

    Should SEGA take a break from making Sonic Games?

    I was saying this last year, that I find it really fascinating that the Sonic fanbase seems to be in the mentality that SEGA is just pumping out Sonic games year after year when that hasn't been the case for the entirety of the decade. And then they throw out that Miyamoto quote like we aren't waiting 4 years between mainline Sonic games (I really hate that quote btw, people misuse it countless times). I mean this is the crux of the issue at the end of the day. The issue isn't whether or not its a time investment, because Lost World and Forces have some of the longest development cycles of any Sonic game. The issue is that SEGA doesn't seem to want to invest in the actual quality of the game, and that's why we are where we are now. We were legit better off when this franchise was pumping out Sonic games nonstop in the 2000's, because at least every once in awhile we got a decent or pretty good game out of it. And now that no longer is the case.
    1 point
  34. Razule

    Should SEGA take a break from making Sonic Games?

    It's been almost 5 years, and there were 4 years between the second-to-last and last. Enough breaks. There's not going to be some magical point where they sit down and meditate for 10 years and come back with the perfect Sonic game, like some kind of anime time-skip. They don't need a "break" (I'm pretty sure they never really stop working anyway), they need to decide Sonic is worth having a higher standard of quality, or we'll never stop getting mediocre games.
    1 point
  35. Polkadi~☆

    Should SEGA take a break from making Sonic Games?

    They've taken so many breaks over the 2010s, that the output of Sonic games is minimal compared to the 2000s. It doesn't matter how long you spend away from the franchise, it's about what you do when you actually start work on it.
    1 point
  36. Ming Ming Hatsune

    Should SEGA take a break from making Sonic Games?

    They took a break for 4 years. Five years if you don't count the poor port released yesterday and a racing game developed by Sumo. Are you saying they should have a longer break? What difference would that make? They need a better development and story team. That's all. Sonic Rangers will tell us though if the break was worth it.
    1 point
  37. NoKaine

    Should SEGA take a break from making Sonic Games?

    "SEGA" doesn't make the Sonic games, they only publish and manage them. And they already took a break. It's been four years since the last Sonic platformer and three years since the last Sonic game in general. They made Colors Ultimate precisely to have something for release. Taking a break is not a solution, unfortunately.
    1 point
  38. Ivo-goji

    A Sonic Timeline

    Certain adaptations of the Sonic universe, like the Archie continuity and Sonic X have provided dates for events in their storylines, usually setting the stories in the far future. However the video game continuity has not done this, and constructing a timeline of events in that universe requires looking for clues to pinpoint the relevant dates. There are a number of details that tell us what the chronology of the SEGA Sonic world is like. It is broadly similar to the contemporary real world; there are analogues of real world locations like the United Federation paralleling the USA; there are real world cultures and religions like Islam and Christianity, which have existed long enough and in similar enough circumstances to produce counterparts to real world works of literature like The 1001 Nights and the Legend of King Arthur. We would conclude therefore that the inhabitants of the United Federation use the same twelve month calendar and AD/Common Era dating system as we use, they observe the same holidays (Tails celebrates Christmas), etc. This means we can reasonably use the same kinds of assumptions for dating events in the Sonic universe as we would use for dating real world events. Sonic's world also possesses numerous technologies that resemble real world developments- however, in many cases technology on Sonic's world is far more advanced and futuristic than it is in the real world. This last point makes relating events in Sonic's history to our own history difficult. However, there are two technologies in the Sonic-verse that appear to have developed at the same pace as their real life counterparts- we would not suppose that a world more scientifically advanced than ours' would produce these inventions later than we did- which makes it possible to precisely date a pivotal event in that world's history. The first one is sepia photography. Despite the incredible scientific breakthroughs made aboard the Space Colony ARK, Gerald Robotnik was still making sepia and monochrome photos of himself and his granddaughter. The photo of the Biolizard in the Project: Shadow report was also in black and white. In the real world, color photo cameras first began to be marketed by Polaroid in 1963, which would indicate that Project: Shadow began no later than that time. Too much later, and one would assume they would have switched to color film, as Prison Island was evidently using when they executed the Professor. Which takes us to the second real world technology, sattelite television broadcasting. Throughout SA2 Eggman transmits his doomsday ultimatums from the Space Colony ARK, as is his grandfather's final message in the Last Story. Eggman and Tails also watch an ordinary sattelite tv broadcast from DreamNEWS reporting on Shadow's acts of terrorism, confirming these are the same kinds of communication they use in everyday life. The first real world television transmission sattelite was put in orbit in 1963. This would mean that GUN's raid on the Space Colony happened after that point; any earlier Gerald would not have been able to plan transmitting his final message to the Earth from the sattelite. This information allows us to comfortably place the beginning of Project: Shadow and the creation of the Biolizard in 1963. Project Shadow gave its 23rd report on the progress of the Biolizard on January 27th; if these reports were made daily that would mean Project Shadow began on January 4th. We know the raid on the ARK happened 50 years before SA2, and from Rouge's report that Gerald was approached by the president to research immortality 52 years before SA2: It was a letter addressed to Professor Gerald from the President of its time, 13 Presidents ago, confidentially requesting him some new research. The subject of the letter is as follows: "Mankind's ultimate eternal dream, researching for immortality." Assuming a four year term of office, 13 presidents is 52 years. This gives Project: Shadow a duration of two years, and would place the creation of Shadow the Hedgehog and the raid on the Space Colony ARK in 1965. Sonic Adventure 2 therefore must occur 50 years after 1965, in 2015. Unusual timing given it's release date, but consistent with the evidence. We know enough time passed between SA and SA2 for newspapers to report on the events of the first game, and these papers were still considered recent. This would imply less than a month passed between SA and SA2. According to NPC dialogue ("I feel great! There's nothing like swimming pools and the ocean in the summer!" ), Sonic Adventure takes place in the summer. Sonic's trip to Station Square for a beach vacation would imply the events take place fairly early in the summer, which is supported by dialogue from other NPCs indicating vacationers are just beginning to arrive in the city. The first day of summer in 2015 was June 21st, meaning Sonic Adventure must take place in late June, while Sonic Adventure 2 would be set in July. Interestingly, since Sonic Adventure was when the characters' ages were definitively established, this would support the conventional wisdom that Sonic celebrates his birthday on June 23rd. On that note, in Sonic Adventure Amy was 12 years old, while her age was given as eight in Sonic CD, which would mean that CD takes place four years before Sonic Adventure. Now, some would argue that Amy's age was simply retconned, and there's no other indication that a significant amount of time passed between CD and SA. However, they have forgotten that the Little Planet only appears for one month each year, which means games like Sonic 4 Episode Metal and Sonic Mania that are set between CD and SA must occur at least a year apart; this argues in favor of the time gap we would surmise based on Amy's age. Is it possible to determine what month of the year the Little Planet appears in? In Sonic 4 Episode II the White Park Zone is decorated with Christmas lights, indicating the Little Planet appears in December. This would mean Sonic CD takes place in December of 2011. Now Sonic CD was released after Sonic 2, but it must occur before Sonic 2, because otherwise it would mean Tails was 4 years old in his first appearance. Such a young age seems improbable for a number of reasons. Since Sonic Adventure occurs in June 2015, the latest point Sonic Mania can take place is December 2014, and the latest Sonic 4 Episode Metal can take place is December 2013. Since Sonic 4 is supposed to occur just after the events of S3&K (and thus Sonic 2), that would place the Death Egg saga in 2013. That would make Tails six years old in his earliest appearances, the same age as Cream and Charmy in Sonic Heroes. Since Sega Sonic Arcade was also released in the gap between Sonic 2 and Sonic 3, and like Sonic CD it doesn't feature Tails, we can reasonably assume it also takes place before Sonic 2. Likewise if Sonic CD takes place in 2011, that would push both versions of Sonic 1 to 2011 as well. Even though I've acknowledged Amy and Tails aging prior to Sonic Adventure, as in these two cases it's corroborated by the nature of the Little Planet's annual appearance, the same logic doesn't quite work in other cases. For example, no one seems to have aged after Sonic Adventure; despite Sonic celebrating his birthday in Sonic Generations, his official age stayed 15. Indeed, Sonic seems to have "always" been 15. All other dates can be easily extrapolated from the above fixed points in time using character ages and official statements about the passage of time in-universe. Some, such as the huge time spans between events in the ancient past, are necessarily speculative and only listed to give a general idea of what order they occurred in. ~8000 BC- Dark Gaia awakening. Construction of Gaia Temples.[1] ~3000 BC- Astral Babylon arrives on Earth. Gigan Device constructed.[2] ~2675 BC- Stolen becomes leader of the Babylon Rogues. He invents the Magic Carpet.[3] ~2600s BC- Babylon Garden falls into the desert of Monopole and the Babylon Rogues are scattered. ~2000s BC- Echidna empires expand and build a variety of structures throughout the world. A strained peace between the Echidna clans is established.[4] 2036 BC- Birth of Pachacamac.[5] 1998 BC- Birth of Tikal.[6] ~1980s BC- Knuckles Clan/Nocturnus war. 1984 BC- Destruction of the Knuckles Clan by Perfect Chaos and formation of Angel Island.[7] 1981 BC- Creation of Emerl. Argus Event.[8] 15- Glyphic Canyon transported to Earth by the Black Arms.[9] 980- Birth of Master Zik, founder of the Deadly Six. [10] ~1811- Eggman arrives from the future to seed the Little Planet with badnik generators; Sonic arrives as well to cleanse the past of his influence.[11] 1868- Birth of Zavok, Master Zik's eventual successor as leader of the Deadly Six.[12] 1883- Birth of Zomom.[13] 1889- Birth of Zazz.[14] 1896- Birth of Zeena.[15] 1904- Birth of Zor.[16] 1953- Birth of Maria Robotnik.[17] January 4, 1963- Project Shadow begins. January 27, 1963- Biolizard is created on the Space Colony ARK. October 1965- Shadow the Hedgehog is created. The ARK raid takes place. 1995- Birth of Vector the Crocodile. 1996- Birth of Storm the Albatross. 1997- Birth of Rouge the Bat. Birth of Big the Cat. Birth of Wave the Swallow. 1998- Birth of Mighty the Armadillo.[18] Feburary 2, 1999- Birth of Knuckles the Echidna on Angel Island. 1999- Birth of Espio the Chameleon. Birth of Princess Elise III to the Duke of Soleanna.[19] June 23, 2000- Sonic is born on Christmas Island (perhaps).[20] 2001- Birth of Blaze the Cat. Birth of Jet the Hawk. 2003- Birth of Amy Rose. 2006- Project Solaris fails. "Past" portions of Sonic 06 take place before being erased from history.[21] 2007- Birth of Miles Prower on Cocoa Island. 2009- Birth of Charmy Bee. Birth of Cream the Rabbit. 2011- Events of Sonic 1 and Sonic 1 (Game Gear). December 2011- Events of Sonic CD. 2012- Events of SegaSonic Arcade. 2013- Events of Tails Adventure[22], Sonic 2, Sonic 3 & Knuckles, Sonic 4 Episode I, Tails Sky Patrol and Sonic 2 (Game Gear). December 2013- Events of Sonic 4 Episode Metal and Sonic 4 Episode II[23] 2014- Events of Knuckles' Chaotix[24], Sonic Chaos, Sonic Triple Trouble and Sonic the Fighters. December 2014- Events of Sonic Mania[25] January 2015- Events of Sonic 3D Blast: Flicky's Island and Sonic R[26]. June 2015- Events of Sonic Adventure and Sonic Shuffle July 1st to July 3rd 2015- Sonic Adventure 2 takes place July 31st to August 2nd 2015- Sonic Advance takes place [27] August 2015- Sonic Advance 2 takes place September 27th to September 30th 2015- Events of Sonic Heroes[28] October 2015- Sonic Pinball Party[29] takes place October 27th to October 30th 2015- Shadow the Hedgehog takes place[30] November 2015- Sonic Battle takes place[31] December 2015- Sonic Advance 3[32] and Sonic Rush take place Early 2016- Events of Sonic Riders, Sonic 06, Sonic Rivals, Sonic Rush Adventure, Sonic Rivals 2, Sonic and the Secret Rings, Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity, Sonic Unleashed/Night of the Werehog, Sonic and the Black Knight, Sonic Free Riders, and Sonic Colors/Sonic Colors DS.[33] June 23, 2016- Events of Sonic Generations.[34] June 24 to June 30, 2016- Events of Sonic: Lost World. Events of Sonic Forces: Rise of Infinite. Shadow defeats the Jackal Squad while infiltrating one of Eggman's bases.[35] July 2016- Events of Sonic Forces: Moment of Truth, Sonic Forces: Stress Test, and Sonic Forces: Looming Shadow. Events of Sonic Forces: Episode Shadow. [36] December 2016- Events of Sonic Forces.[37] 2018- Events of Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood.[38] 2202- Birth of Silver the Hedgehog.[39] ~2211- Sonic and Eggman fight in the Little Planet's Bad Future. 2216- Silver and Eggman Nega begin traveling to the past for various reasons as their histories change. "Future" portions of Sonic 06 take place before being erased from history. 1-"These ancient documents are known as the Gaia Manuscripts. They tell the legend of a disaster that befell our planet some tens of thousands of years ago." 2- For my reasoning on the dating of the Babylonians' arrival see "Some thoughts on the Four Great Civilizations". 3- Stolen was the thirteenth leader of the Babylon Rogues, meaning there were twelve preceeding generations before they invented Extreme Gear. Assuming each generation was an average of 25 years long that would give us around 325 years from the Babylonians arrival to the creation of the Magic Carpet. These numbers are only loose approximations. 4- Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood (Nintendo DS) United States instruction booklet, pg. 4. "4,000 years ago, the two rival clans of the planet's dominant Echidnas race had been blessed with centuries of peace, albeit strained, but such days were to be short-lived. The expanding borders of the Knuckles' Clan empire and the Nocturnus Clan empire were pushing against each other, and neither side was intent on yielding." Those centuries of peace came before war broke out between them 4000 years ago. 5- Pachacamac's age is given as 52 in Sonic Adventure Navigation Guide 6- ティカル; other character ages also taken from Sonic Channel. 7- Sonic Adventure - A Heavenly Island - 2 - Sonic Jam, Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood Codex Transcript for DS by Platinum Sonic 10 - GameFAQs. Sources from when Sonic Adventure came out give approximate timespans like "more than 3000 years ago", "about 3000 years ago", which doesn't contradict later games like Sonic Battle giving longer approximate timespans, since neither are trying to be precise. As it currently stands, Emerl's profile on Sonic Channel still says 4000 years, while the profiles for Tikal and Chaos don't give a figure for their time period, so my assumption is that SEGA considers 4000 years to be the most correct timescale. 8- Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood Codex, "The Nocturnus historian Nestor the Wise claims that Emerl was "our finest creation". According to Nestor, Emerl didn't destroy the Nocturnus Clan directly, but his creation led to the Clan's disappearance. Emerl and the Gizoids made the Nocturnus Clan unstoppable, and at the peak of their power, they were whisked away to the Twilight Cage. The "Argus Event" is the name given to the mysterious disappearance of the Nocturnus Clan and their appearance in the Twilight Cage. It was coined by a Nocturnus historian named Nestor the Wise soon after the Nocturnus arrived in the Twilight Cage. The term refers to a strange phenomenon that all Nocturnus echidnas experienced when they first arrived. At the moment the Nocturnus disappeared, all members of the Nocturnus Clan heard a voice in their minds say something that like "Argus." No one has yet been able to explain what this meant." 9-https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dr1O1kPUcAEkzkN?format=jpg 10- https://info.sonicretro.org/images/3/39/SonicLostWorld_Zik_Profile.jpg 11- I've argued elsewhere that the past and future eras of the Little Planet are separated from the present by about 200 years, based on the deterioration of Eggman's robots over time in Sonic CD when compared to Omega being able to remain operational for 200 years in Sonic 06. 12- https://info.sonicretro.org/images/6/61/SonicLostWorld_Zavok_Profile.jpg 13- https://info.sonicretro.org/images/c/cc/SonicLostWorld_Zomom_profile.jpg 14- https://info.sonicretro.org/images/6/67/SonicLostWorld_Zazz_Profile.jpg 15- https://info.sonicretro.org/images/b/b1/SonicLostWorld_Zeena_Profile.jpg 16- https://info.sonicretro.org/images/1/19/SonicLostWorld_Zor_Profile.jpg 17- https://i.pinimg.com/originals/44/0c/85/440c856924540a869a8cda660066db37.jpg 18- Chaotix Character Profiles - Sonic Jam 19- Sonic Next Gen Production Script. 20- Early materials give Sonic's birthplace as Christmas Island; Sonic the Hedgehog - STI Technical Files - Sonic Jam. Of course, this is the time and place Sonic *thinks* he was born; other theories have been proposed. 21- "It seems we must see what took place 10 years ago." 22- "This is a story from before Tails met Sonic..." 23- Since Sonic 4 depicts Metal Sonic leaving the Little Planet for the first time, those episodes must take place before his appearance in other classic era games like Chaotix and Triple Trouble. 24- "A few months have passed since the events that have caused the island to be skimming on the ocean's surface." 25- Since Sonic Mania features the Little Planet, it must occur one full year after the Little Planet's last appearance in Sonic 4 Episode II; additionally, since Mania features cameos of characters from Sonic the Fighters it presumably takes place after that game. 26- In Sonic Jam Knuckles' age is given as 15 while Tails' is given as 8. This is plausible if Tails turned 8 just before Knuckles turned 16, and the Saturn era games take place early in the year Sonic Adventure happens. If we followed the logic that Knuckles' birthday is February 2nd, this would place the Saturn titles in January. Note that how the characters react to seeing each other in Sonic Adventure seems to support the idea that a long time has passed since their last encounter. 27- The full moon in the final cutscene of Sonic Advance places this game a month after SA2, which also featured a full moon. They cannot share the same full moon as two nights passed over the course of SA2 (the night of Sonic's arrest and the night of the Eclipse Cannon test shot) and two to three nights passed over the course of Sonic Advance (Secret Base, Casino Paradise, and the final cutscene), and a single full moon is only visible for around three days. In July 2015 the moon was full on July 1st and again on July 31st. I will not address here how the Moon continued to appear full in subsequent games after Eggman exploded half of it... 28- Sonic Heroes manual page 10, "Amy, crazily in love with Sonic as always, is concerned that she hasn't had any contact for over a month." The full moon seen in Hang Castle (if it is a real moon and not some ghost thing) would place this game around September 27th to September 30th. 29- Shadow and Metal Sonic's names on the pinball tournament list indicate this game takes place after Sonic Heroes. Since Heroes occurs at the very end of September Pinball Party must occur in October. 30- Yet another full moon in the cutscenes, suggesting Shadow the Hedgehog occurs a month after Heroes. They can't share the same full moon as Heroes takes place over the course of three days. 31- Sonic Battle was released before Heroes but obviously takes place after Shadow has regained his memories. Since Shadow the Hedgehog occurs in the last days of October Sonic Battle must occur in November. 32- A large moon like object looms in the background of the Chaos Angel Zone, which given it's close proximity to the Earth and the presence of a normal sized moon next to it, might well be the Little Planet. If so Sonic Advance 3 would take place in December. 33- At this point following the lunar phases becomes less useful, as there were six full moons between January 23rd and June 20th 2016, and only four games that featured full moons (plus a rare gibbous moon in Sonic Colors). Thus Sonic Riders could occur at the earliest in January, but it could just as easily take place in February and there would still be chances for further full moons. Additionally, the events of Sonic 06 being erased from history mean that the usual caveat about games not sharing full moons wouldn't apply, as the events of one of the other games could conceivably occur before the full moon seen during the Festival of the Sun waned. Further complicating things in this period is that Secret Rings, Rush Adventures, and Black Knight have Sonic traveling to parallel universes, where we're left without any information about the passage of time in Sonic's world between these adventures. Other than release order there isn't as much to go for this part of the timeline. 34- Since Sonic celebrates his birthday in Generations, we would assume it takes place at least a full year after SA where the characters' modern ages were introduced. 35- "A couple of months ago..." 36- "It was one month before the Doctor took over the world." 37- "We've been waiting for a miracle these past six months" 38- Chronicles takes place two years after Eggman's previous defeat. 39-"Approximately 200 years"
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    A Sonic Timeline

    Modern Sonic went through similar events.
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