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  1. 18 points
    Diogenes

    Cancel Culture Needs to Stop

    Oh no, how can society possibly survive when Sexual Harassment Skunk is under attack? There are some actual problems with bad faith "cancelling", harassment, digging up of old issues, what it takes for someone to make things right after they've done something shit, that are worth discussing, but "rapey cartoon skunk is being retired" and "bunny girl has less tiddy" are not serious issues to be concerned with. I mean you want to talk about people looking for reasons to get offended and outraged, just look at the guys who are real mad about the cartoon rabbit in a children's movie not being sexy enough.
  2. 17 points
    Yo I'm getting married TOMORROW 😱
  3. 13 points
    (Tweet Receipt) Had a pretty great day Love you guys and thanks for all the congrats! Will look into Mrs Indigo getting an account
  4. 12 points
    Piko

    Cancel Culture Needs to Stop

    They weren’t “cancelled”; Warner Bros made those decisions themselves. In fact, the only people I see talking about this aren’t the ones supposedly “cancelling” these characters, but rather the ones whining about the changes that have been made. There are many important issues in the world that are worth discussing. A cartoon skunk being retired isn’t one of them.
  5. 9 points
    Have great news today. My tendonitis case seems to have finally cleared up and my wrist is out of brace at last!
  6. 8 points
    Archie Sonic the Hedgehog - Issue #159: System Reboot This cover, when I first saw it out of context, both excited and confused me. I know the context now and it just makes me roll my eyes but at the time I did wonder if there were a bunch of mass produced Neo Metal Sonics in a Sonic story out there somewhere and I was missing something good. These covers are also extremely deceptive with how well drawn they are. Looking at them, you wouldn’t know that they look like ass inside. Good thing we’re one issue away where the cover art will no longer be this blatant in its deceptive advertising. That’s a cute little “Go Team” logo there. Anyway, the big thing to talk about here is the fact that this is the last issue that Ken Penders is going to lead for us. After this, Ian Flynn’s extremely lucky big break will have gone through thanks to the editor looking for a chance to spice things up and being willing (and crazy enough) to take chances. It paid off in ways I wouldn’t even know how grateful I would be at the time but that’s another thing to go into. Right now, we’ve got a swan ugly duckling song for Ken Penders to get to. With that story over, it’s time to look into the “What could have been” concerning Ken Penders and his weird, gross, awful shit. Oh boy! Ken Penders’ Unused Story Ideas So, surprising no one, Ken had some things that “sadly” had to be left on the cutting room floor when someone who wasn’t insane and obsessed with Nazis came in to take his place. I’m going to cover almost all of the ones I could find due to how much they interest me personally because of how much they speak to the inner workings of this weird alien man. I’m also going to touch upon things that he wanted to do before he left as well, so prepare to take a trip down memory lane of stories that we’ve already covered too. That truly is it. I gave my thoughts on Ken Penders’ last issue as well as my thoughts on all the stupid shit he was going to do if he continued from 160 onward. Thus, I have closed the book on not only all the Archie Sonic comics I have never read before but the ones I DID previously read from #142 to #159 and never had the full context for. I can officially say that I’ve read all the stuff from before #160 now, including all the mini-series’ and the Super Specials. I will never do this again and I would not recommend it to anyone else either. I’m immensely proud of myself for having done it, sure, but when all's said and done, if I hadn’t been doing this retrospective for you all to see my thoughts there would have been almost no point to it other than recontextualizing what my thoughts and feelings on future stories were going to be. Granted, an argument can be made for the merit behind that as well. In fact, I feel excellent knowing that I’m going into the Ian run with new information regarding these characters so that I can fully understand where they came from and how much better they’re going to be. So, I guess it WAS worth it but it still feels weird to say considering all the intense amount of bullshit I had to put up with. If it wasn’t offensive, it was boring. If it wasn’t boring, it was lazy. If it wasn’t lazy, it was busy being ugly and hard to look at on top of being really horrendously, badly written from top to bottom. Every once in a while I’d find a good story to latch onto but it was way fewer and far between then I should have been for a book that had lasted #159 issues and some change up to that point. It wasn’t just Ken Penders of course. Our boy, Karl Bollers was a bit of a godsend in the sense that he did offer a comfortable amount of normalcy from time to time. He definitely was not perfect. There were a lot of his stories that were garbage as well and I doubt creating a fake name to gauge whether or not his criticism was warranted garnered any meaningful results. Still, I have to thank the man for being there to keep my sanity in check regardless. I don’t know the extent to which his stories were meddled with on Ken Penders end but I can’t imagine it was a comfortable relationship seeing as how we’re all well aware of Penders and his need to be in control of everything he “creates” for a book he doesn’t own. Then there’s the other assorted writers like the hard to get a handle on, Romy Chacon. Or the old as dust and painfully unfunny Mike Gallagher. Gallagher still has something to contribute later but it's Gallagher so odds are it’ll be something that feels like it belongs in the funnies section of an old newspaper. I don’t know about Romy but we’ll see. Oh shit. This is also Ron Lim’s last book as penciler too. Thank Christ. Blue skies ahead from here on in, give or take a few rainy days, but we’ll get there when we get there. Right now, I’m just unbelievably happy and relieved. Now and then. My head starts to spin. But I’ll never turn back. Again. Archie Sonic the Hedgehog - Issue #160: Birthday Bash! - Part 1, Giving and Receiving CELEBRATE GOOD TIMES! COME ON! It's been a long, rough road but I’m finally here. I moved an inch forward; felt like a year… although it was literally, actually, more than a year at this point. Either way, we’ve made it. I’ve cleaned the raw, disgusting, sludge off of my body and I’m ready to dive into my original starting point involving these comics with Issue #160. Hello old friend. It’s been a long time. I can’t possibly explain in words how excited I am to re-read this stuff WITH the knowledge and context of what came before fully in mind. Enough blab. Let’s do this! I’ve typed entirely too much about this so I’ll wrap up by saying that I’m really happy. There’s still going to be loads of things to critique and pick a part but I’m happy I get to finally read something with a standard of quality now. There are still some things left to take care of in the transitioning phase of course. There are people still on the book that will slowly be fazed out as well as concepts and ideas that are going to be given a more graceful death then they probably deserve (and some an ungraceful death that they totally deserve) but as of right now, I’m just glad to finally be here. The first story was a lot of fun and did it’s job as a celebration of the new area well. The second story didn’t make me want to jump in a lake like most of the second stories used to, which is good. I’m really not a fan of the way it’s drawn but I don’t recall seeing too much that looks quite like it in the future so I’m not going to harp on it too much. All in all, a fun time was had by all. Sonic X - Issue #29: Green-Eyed Monster, Part 2 This is a really funky looking cover. If you were to show this to any random Sonic fan unfamiliar with these comics they’d probably do a double and then a triple take at it before tilting their head. I really love the way that city looks. The red sky in the back with the city reflecting off the water and the blearing red line acting as the intersection looks really awesome. I hope it lives up to the hype. That issue was actually a ton of fun. I do think it’s a little less good than I remember it, most likely because back when I originally read these, I was going from one issue to another in quick succession. This story works way better as something you read through all the way rather than a week or a month a part. It helps sell the chaos of the situation better when your mind is on a train going from point A to B where everything’s going haywire and getting worse and worse before the big finale. The issues tend to suffer a bit on their own but together they work really well.
  7. 7 points
  8. 7 points
    Chris aside, I think Sonic X is otherwise a perfect model for Sonic in terms of tone and world. It's exciting and always with a wonderful sense of humor; the show is aware of how absurd the premise is, but is mature enough to run with it instead of constantly breaking the fourth wall and begging us to laugh. It's also not afraid to get real; it's pretty upfront about how anti-authoritarian it is. There are war crimes, homeless people, people with disabilities, etc. It's a relatable world and it's interesting and fun to see the interplay between Sonic & co. with humanity. Makes me wish characters like Topaz or even Sam Speed made their way into the games. I have a blast watching this show. And no, not the 4Kids version.
  9. 6 points
    Ian Flynn isn't perfect. He makes mistakes and he knows it, some stuff he made were controversial and so on. And I say it as a fan of Ian. Dillin seems to be very nitpicky, judgemental and somewhat sympathetic to the "Anti-Flynn" guys and girls who think that Flynn Just wants to destroy Sally Acorn and the legacy of the old american Western Sonic canon. In the end it's just badly disguised shipping wars.
  10. 6 points
    I for one will always prefer "Shonen Sonic" to the "Saturday Morning Sonic" we've had for the past decade. I do wonder what new direction we may get now that we're in a new decade of Sonic, though...
  11. 6 points
    1. If you want to discuss someone's opinion , it would be nice if you gave a link to that opinion. 2. I don't like format this guy picked, it's similar to "Cinema Sins", picking out every little thing, no matter how trivial or forced. It's not meaningful discussion, it's nitpicking. 3. But overall: yes, Flynn isn't perfect. Some decisions he made are controversial, especially during his early days. Sometimes he was just following orders from editors, we'll never know for sure which ones. Most broad criticism is that Flynn torched old Archie in order to mold it into his image. I do agree it wasn't the most tasteful way, but ultimately it was quickest way to get comics into better direction. I mean quality jump between 159 and 160 is so high, it's worth all the nitpick this guy has.
  12. 6 points
    the entire balan wonderworld budget went into the tim plush, i love it so much
  13. 6 points
    I really wouldn't mind at all if the humans in Sonic games looked like those characters in Balan Wonderworld. I have never quite understood why some people are so against the idea of humans in Sonic games. Sana for one example: Or Leo for another: They would just fit in so well. And that's really no surprise considering who designed all of these characters in the first place. I always liked the Pixar-esque humans of Unleashed and certainly wouldn't mind seeing those designs again. This style blends in with the design is Sonic and the other anthro characters even better though. It leans more into a Japanese, anime look. SA1 had verrrry 90s anime human designs. Anything other than the hyper realistic humans of 06, basically. And SA2 and Shadow didn't do a particularly good job of it either. If they look too realistic like in those games, then off course is going to feel weird to a lot of the audience. But if the humans are designed to match the anthros, everything would blend together seamlessly. And the humans can be designed as creatively and stylised as the Sonic and the rest. The Balan human characters would be pretty perfect, I think. The only problem with the Balan characters is poor animation in 3D, where they all have the 'mascot suit' and 'grapefruit hands' problem from half-arsed mo-cap.
  14. 6 points
    I still don't understand what makes him think this is legal but I'm going to laugh if it turns out the "remastering" process was blacking out Sega characters or something.
  15. 6 points
  16. 5 points
    So, with the impending closure of the PlayStation Store on PS3, and PS Vita in a few months, it also means that while most of these games will still be available in some form on different platforms (mostly Xbox/Steam), there's actually a few that will be much more difficult to get, especially now with game prices skyrocketing for both PS3 and Vita. The PS3 store will be going offline on the 2nd July 2021, and with it - every Sonic game digitally available for the PlayStation 3 will be delisted permanently, including DLC. The Vita store will be going offline on the 27th August 2021, and again - with it every Sonic game available digitally, including PSP titles. While both stores will be closing, it is confirmed you'll still be able to access and redownload your bought games from your download list, so it may be worth picking up anything Sonic wise on these platforms that you didn't already do so. With that said, I thought it would be a good idea to give a comprehensive list of what games (and additional downloadable content) are available where and how, for those still looking to pick up Sonic stuff before the storefronts are gone for good. Some of the US prices shown here may be slightly off, due to being estimations mainly for the DLC, as prices differ between PS3 and Xbox 360, so it's a little bit give or take with those. There are also regional differences to consider, so some games listed here as unavailable may be available in your region, so it might be worth checking the PS Store anyways. PS3: Game - Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) - Unavailable Digitally DLC - Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) - Very Hard Mode (Sonic, Silver, Shadow) - As the name implies, these are altered stages for the three playable characters with additional enemies and hazards included - $2.49/£2.49 each DLC - Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) - Boss Attack Mode (Sonic, Silver, Shadow) - A mission pack where Sonic, Shadow and Silver fight each boss from their retrospective campaign one after another - $2.49/£2.49 each DLC - Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) - Team Attack Amigo - A mission pack with redesigned levels focusing on the amigo characters from each character's campaign (IE - Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Rouge, Omega, Blaze) - $2.49/£2.49. Game - Sonic Unleashed (2008) - $14.99/£12.99 DLC - Sonic Unleashed - Mazuri Adventure Pack - A level pack that gives four daytime stages and two night stages set in Mazuri - $2.49/£2.49 DLC - Sonic Unleashed - Spagonia Adventure Pack - A level pack that adds four daytime stages, along with two night stages to Spagonia - $4.99/£3.99 DLC - Sonic Unleashed - Empire City + Adabat Adventure Pack - A level pack that adds five day stages and four night stages spread between both Empire City, and Adabat - $2.49/£2.49 DLC - Sonic Unleashed - Apotos + Shamar Adventure Pack - A level pack that adds five day stages and four night stages, spread between Apotos and Shamar - $2.49/£2.49 DLC - Sonic Unleashed - Chun-Nan Adventure Pack - A level pack that adds four day stages and two night stages to Chun-Nan - $3.99/£3.29 DLC - Sonic Unleashed - Holoska Adventure Pack - A level pack that adds four day stages and two night stages to Holoska - $2.49/£2.49 Game - Sonic Adventure (HD Remaster) - DIGITAL ONLY - $3.99/£3.69 DLC - Sonic Adventure - DX Upgrade - It adds the additional content from the Gamecube version of Sonic Adventure DX to the remaster, adding the game's mission mode, among other features - $2.49/£1.69 Game - Sonic and SEGA All-Stars Racing - Unavailable Digitally DLC - Sonic and SEGA All-Stars Racing - Ryo Hazuki/Forklift Truck - It adds Ryo from the Shenmue series, along with his forklift truck as a selectable racer into the game - £3.99/$4.99 DLC - Sonic and SEGA All-Stars Racing - Metal Sonic & Death Egg Zone - It adds Metal Sonic as a racer to the game, along with the Death Egg Zone as a racetrack - £4.99/$5.99 Game - Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 1 - DIGITAL ONLY - $6.99/£6.49 Game - Sonic the Hedgehog (Vintage Collection) - DIGITAL ONLY - $3.99/£3.69 Game - Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (Vintage Collection) - DIGITAL ONLY - $3.99/£3.69 Game - Sonic Generations - $19.99/£12.99 DLC - Sonic Generations - Casino Night Zone - Hardly worth bringing up as it's essentially impossible to get on consoles now, as the codes will have long since expired - Casino Night Zone was a recreation of the pinball mini-game found in Sonic 2 and beyond in Generations' style, and it was available for buying the collector's edition of the game, or pre-ordering it at certain retailers in the US. Game - Sonic CD (Whitehead Remaster) - DIGITAL ONLY - $4.99/£3.69 Game - Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 2 - DIGITAL ONLY - $9.99/£9.99 DLC - Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 2 - Episode Metal - A unique DLC, instead of simply buying it, it's instead a 'bonus' for buying both Sonic 4 Episode 1 and Episode 2. That said, if you don't get them both before the store closure date, it'll be gone forever. You play as Metal Sonic going through the four zones from Episode 1. Game - Sonic Adventure 2 HD Remaster - DIGITAL ONLY - $7.49/£6.49 DLC: Sonic Adventure 2 - Battle DLC - A DLC pack that adds the additional content from Sonic Adventure 2 Battle to the game, including the additional multiplayer features - $2.99/£1.99 Game: Sonic and All-Stars Racing Transformed - $19.99/£11.99 DLC - Sonic and All-Stars Racing Transformed - Metal Sonic + Outrun Pack - A DLC pack that adds both Metal Sonic as a playable character, along with an Outrun race track - $2.99/£1.99 Game: Sonic the Fighters - DIGITAL ONLY - $4.99/£3.69 PS3 Games Available Only in Certain Regions: Game: Sonic Heroes (PS2 Classic) - Europe/Japan - £7.99/1,200 Yen Game: Shadow the Hedgehog (PS2 Classic) - 1,200 Yen PS Vita: Game: Sonic and All-Stars Racing Transformed - $19.99/£11.99 - Notable for being the full console version ported to a handheld console, and plays well at that. DLC: Metal Sonic + Outrun Pack - Same deal as the PS3 edition, although it also came bundled with limited editions of the game on Vita - $2.99/£1.99 PSP Games (Playable on both PSP and PS Vita): Game: Sonic Rivals - $6.99/£6.49 (Possibly already delisted on UK Store) Game: Sonic Rivals 2 - $6.99/£6.49 (Possibly already delisted on UK Store) With that, that's all of the Sonic related content that's currently available on the PlayStation 3 and Vita stores, apart from minor stuff (Sonic's Little Big Planet DLC costume packs, SEGA Mega Drive Collection (PSP), which can't be confirmed to be currently available). Once the stores go, all of these games and DLC go along with it, with games like Heroes, Shadow, and both Rivals games especially notable among these as these versions of the games aren't available readily elsewhere, so be sure if there's anything here you're interested in getting, you get them before the stores go. Edit: Forgot to add Sonic the Fighters to the PS3 list.
  17. 5 points
    You managed to get through the worst era of the comics in one piece, congrats! It's been a long, long time coming, but Penders is finally out of the picture! Let's celebrate with a final rounding out of thoughts on his bullshit. I've a lot to say so I'll leave my thoughts on #160 for another post, lets make this one a final outing for Ken. I actually didn't know that Ian had to spruce up this script before leaving, and I'm just imagining him knocking his head against a table, trying his damnest to at least imply Sonic isn't this gigantic asshat. I could see him adding things like the "You know me better than that" to try to say - "Of course Sonic wouldn't just leave an injured Hope there!", but like, there's only so much you can do when Penders has stacked the deck so far in the direction of jerkass Sonic. What frustrates me is - in my opinion at least - this is severely out of character for Eggman. If the Neo Metal Sonic legion was directly targeting him at the moment, I could absolutely see him panicking, or at least being nervous (Think how Eggman and Wily were ridiculously panicked in Worlds Collide when Sonic and Mega Man began turning the tide on the Roboticised Masters, and the two doctors had to literally begin denying a potential failure on the horizon, because they know how these things usually turned out). Eggman IMO would not be sitting here trying to bolster up the GREATEST THREAT THEY'VE YET FACED!!! - and complaining about how he had nothing to do with it, he'd be using it to bolster his own ego. He'd be talking about how - of course the Metal Sonic Squadron is out of control, those Knothole hacks attempted to steal his genius designs, his ingenuity! While Eggman is so clever, and so smart as to have protocols in place to ensure Metal Sonic remains loyal to him, those idiot inventors over at Knothole couldn't even keep a few tin-cans in line! Hell, Eggman would probably be laughing about how Knothole deserves this fate for stealing an Eggman concept (despite the pathetically lame excuse that Eggman doesn't have a claim to the concept). Just...imagine if this was written by a competent writer. Like imagine Ian writing this story arc, knowing full well he was going to portray Max as the absolute scumbag he actually is later down the line. Imagine the actual potential here. Given that Rotor and Max were forced to make these robots by Max, you could've easily used this to show that in some ways, King Max and Eggman aren't so different, especially as warring factions. The Kingdom of Acorn is always portrayed as the morally upright group fighting against the evil Eggman, but imagine the potential if Max had forced the Knothole inventors to build this squadron of Sonics as his new secret weapon, a literal army of obedient robots, as strong, as fast, and as capable as Sonic himself, all under King Acorn's beck and call. Imagine the irony of the "morally upright" side being the one to betray the image of their greatest hero, betray the mourning and trust of their princess, and betray quite a few of the values they're supposed to uphold. Imagine the fallout of this under a more competent writer. Imagine Sally finding out that during a time of severe heartbreak and pain for her, her father had secretly commissioned war machines in her dead boyfriend's image to go out and wage war on whoever Max damn well pleased. Imagine Sally finding that out and saying enough was enough and cutting ties with Max once and for all. Imagine Eggman getting a fucking kick out of the "morally heroic Freedom Fighters" taking a page out of his book and creating loyal robotic killing machines, capable of forcing anyone into line if they disagreed with Max. Imagine Sonic realising that the king he fought so long to save and protect had officially lost his fucking mind and did something like this. Like we all joke about this being the GREATEST THREAT THEY'VE YET FACED!!!! - but under a competent writer - yeah - it legit could have been. Imagine the Neo Metal Sonics being as strong, as fast, and as capable of the regular Sonic due to being designed by Charles and Rotor knowing Sonic a lot more than Eggman. Imagine a Iron NICOLE scenario where A.D.A.M discovers and takes control of them all, using them to utterly destroy Knothole, and then reveal that Max was the one who commissioned them with the intent of winning the war with them, and using them to ensure no one else would fuck with the Kingdom of Acorn, forcing a mourning Charles to do it as well. Imagine Sonic and Shadow having to fight tooth and nail together in order to put them down, but still not being able to save a large chunk of Knothole. Imagine Eggman using this to further convince Shadow that the Kingdom of Acorn is corrupt, and Shadow made the right decision to work with Eggman! There's so much that could've been done here!! This could've legitimately been a massive game-changing arc, a huge turning point in the war where Eggman gets a massive win on the Kingdom of Acorn without trying, simply because a power-hungry Max had decided he was going to step his game up. Imagine seeing this legitimately paid off with Sonic, Sally, and the Freedom Fighters realising that the Kingdom of Acorn isn't as different from Eggman as they were lead to believe, and becoming completely and totally disillusioned with it. Imagine that whole metal ceremony again where Elias and Max and everyone has set up this whole song and dance to "award" Sonic (apologise for screwing with his image), only instead - Sonic doesn't show up. Charles and his family could be at the ceremony, wondering where he is, but Charles has a look of total guilt, knowing he hurt his nephew by taking part in this affair. The final pages of the issue could be something like Sonic inside the abandoned Freedom HQ, looking around and realising that this is what he and his friends spent so long fighting for, a corrupt kingdom that's doing shady bullshit that's just as bad, if not even worse than Eggman. If you want to be more optimistic, perhaps have the other Freedom Fighters show up, realising the same thing, but also showing that despite their utter disgust with what Max did, they'll still continue to fight for what they believe is right, not what the Kingdom of Acorn believes is right. Like, this whole deal with the Neo Metal Sonics, and their true creators should be a really big deal, and yet it's practically all shrugged off. It's amazing how much of a waste it is. God, I hate this story arc. This honestly remains as one of the most infamous moments of bullshit for me with Penders. Like the most blatant attempt to turn Shadow into Knuckles 2.0 after the fact. It's time for Shadow to begin discovering his random magical mystical chaos bullshit! First off, let's not ignore the fact that this is not Chaos Control, Ken. Chaos Control is an ability in which the user uses a Chaos Emerald to warp time and space in different ways, let it be via teleportation, freezing time, or ripping open portals in time/space itself. Chaos Control is just not a catch-all term for "doing whatever you damn well please". This is on the level of the DBZ Big Green dub being convinced that literally every. single. attack. is a Kamehameha somehow. Kaioken? Kamehameha. Going Super Saiyan? Kamehameha! Final Flash? Kamehameha! This is only slightly better than the 4Kids X dub being convinced that Chaos Control is the name of Eggman's base in the first 10-15 episodes or so. Secondly, I hate the usage here. It's literally just a Deus Ex Machina button. Shadow gets to stop big threats. Why? Uh, uh, Chaos Control! Sonic is getting his ass utterly beaten by these robots and yet Shadow just magics them away. What an utterly wasteful, lame, and lazy excuse. Just like Chaos Knuckles and the rest of that bullshit. God, I am so thankful Ken just fucked off after this. We dodged multiple bullets here. Again, just imagine if this was written by someone better. This whole ceremony could've been a sham, an attempt by Elias (Actually Max - who convinced Elias) to make a big showing of Sonic as their greatest hero in order to both try to get Sonic back on their side, and to appease the public who now know that their king isn't a particularly good person. It would actually fit then. This isn't a ceremony to promote Sonic and give him this big hero's celebration, it's a sham. A senseless, pathetic attempt to save face. They do it, and invite Sonic, assuming he'd attend, but Sonic doesn't. I hate this, there's so much potential here to have Sonic finally go closer to his game counterpart by calling into question how good this "authority" is, and they just don't. The perfect set-up for this scenario and Penders plays it straight because god forbid he actually say "No, Max was wrong, completely and entirely". No, no. Sonic goes along with it because "GoOd iNtEnTiOnS!!!!!!. I'm so sick of this, how many times do we have to do this song and dance? No, good intentions doesn't excuse you from being an absolute shit. Especially when your "good intentions" are very likely not good. Literally so much of Penders' absolute bullshit can be summed up with: I love how Ian just got rid of the whole Gentlemen at Arms thing like...three issues later? It's just great how Penders' last big "hoorah" that would've made Sonic an official part of the Acorn Kingdom's authority was just no-sold. I said it once, but I'll say it again - this is just absolutely awful, on all fronts. I sincerely hate everything about it. Ignore the obvious fact that Charles is being a massive creep and pulling a Locke by spying on Shadow (sounds familiar, doesn't it?) - but let's look at this from another angle. Sir Charles - on the orders of Max - made a legion of robotic killing machines, using his supposedly dead nephew's image. The same man who expressed deep guilt and sorrow for his role in creating the Roboticiser and enabling Eggman's takeover. The man who was one of the few good parental figures in the series, who always cared for Sonic, and the Freedom Fighters, and here he is, having been ordered to shit on his dead nephew's image. Does Charles show remorse for this betrayal? Guilt? Nope! "YoU hAvE yOuR sEcReTs, aNd wE hAvE oUrS, bEtTeR iT sHoUlD sTaY tHaT wAy!!!!!!". He acts like this is a good thing, that this horrible thing he did to his nephew, and then kept a secret from him, and said secret then biting them ALL on the ass and attacking them all was somehow a good thing! It cannot be said just how much damage Penders did to Charles as a character before he finally pissed off. So much so that I think this should be imagined as non-canon because even in a single issue, it portrays Charles as a selfish prick who abused his dead nephew's standing and image to create an army of killer robots, and when it all backfired on them, he couldn't even show any remote remorse for it and acts as if it's somehow a good thing. BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN: I don't even have anything to say on the backup story because it's just generic set-up for shit that doesn't happen. Can essentially sum it up with "I'm sure he wouldn't pay off the set-up anyway, so bleh". Right, now let's get into the plans he had. I've already spoken at length about a few of them so I'll just go over ones I don't think I spoke about. First things first, I want to point out - Sally was actually fairly popular in the 90s. SEGA was more loose with continuities back then so they had no problem marketing the hell out of SatAM. Sally herself got a fair amount of merchandise and even a mascot outfit at a SEGA park, so yeah - it kind of makes sense why SEGA didn't want her killed off. They were still using her quite a bit back then. Secondly - imagine the horrid timeline where Sally was killed off and replaced with King Acorn entirely. It really goes to show how much Penders didn't care about Sally whatsoever, despite his claims to the contrary. He tried to kill her off and when it didn't work, he used her as a simple mouthpiece to either try to show her as a whiny spoilt brat who King Acorn would have to put into line, or a mouthpiece to defend King Acorn's increasingly awful actions. Bollers and editorial didn't do her many favours, but I will always take their take over what Penders gave us. How would this story even play out exactly? Like, Rotor sends Nicole back in time to prevent the destruction of the world, somehow...but Nicole allows the actions that Rotor and Cobar pins on Sonic to still happen? Did Penders just forget that Nicole was around for things he tried to blame Sonic for? Did he not realise it would mean jack shit? Also, I disagree with this being an issue where stuff happens because...it just wouldn't. Sonic goes back to the past and can't change anything, he returns and they send Nicole back...who still does nothing to change the past. It's the exact same as literally every other M25YL story, nothing happens, no one has agency, no one does shit, and we're expected to pretend it's somehow progress. I never thought I'd say it - but I think even this would be too petty for Eggman. When Eggman tries to personally screw with someone's life, it's typically because he perceives someone to have wronged him in some way, even utterly tiny and miniscule. For example - back when he had Nack attempt to kill Mina because he got her songs stuck in his head and took it as a personal attack. Was it petty and pathetic? Yes. Would it totally fit for Eggman to be that petty? Absolutely. Here, he'd just straight up be a cartoon villain, sending his robots to screw around with Charles' date for the kicks of it essentially. I could maybe see him do it if it meant somehow messing with Sonic in the process, but idk - it feels really silly for Eggman to concentrate his efforts into commanding his most powerful robot commanders to do something as silly as ruin a date. It feels a bit contrived. Oh hey look, it's Ken Penders' attempts to ruin my favourite Archie Sonic character, again! Hooray! Let's ignore the blatant hypocrisy at play that Penders has temper tantrums whenever someone else wanted to use his characters in their stories, but yet here he is blatantly misunderstanding Mina and Ash's characterisation (Ash wants nothing more than Mina's safety, why would he tease her about not charging head-long into danger? Mina on the other hand knows she's not good as a Freedom Fighter, but is exceptionally good at building morale and provide levity for those who can fight). There's so much wrong with the bare concept of the plotline that I don't even know what else to say. I don't believe these characters would do these things. He's blatantly ignoring their development (Amy especially, given she is an official Freedom Fighter at this point). Where the fuck would Ash even have a leg to stand in this debate? He isn't a Freedom Fighter, he doesn't risk his life, he's a manager. It's not only blatantly out of character, it doesn't make sense. Also, Amy too. Not only because she's already completed her arc, proven her worth, and became a official Freedom Fighter, but Amy could probably still handle Nic and Rouge easily lol. She's practically as good a fighter with her Piko Hammer as Knuckles. The idea that she still feels the need to prove herself to a fucking band manager of all people, plus would need Sonic and Sally's help in dealing with Nic the freaking Weasel is beyond ridiculous. Pretty much the only idea I think could've worked here, although definitely not under Penders. That said though, I'm kind of glad it didn't. Jules' robot design is really neat and unique IMO, especially when all of the Mobians were deroboticised. I really liked it when Jon Grey gave Jules that hat and scarf. Idk, there's just something neat about Sonic's dad being a robot, but still continuing on and doing his best for his son that's both unique, and fun IMO. This one just makes me laugh for two reasons. 1. His ideas for Antoine and Bunnie were just awful. Imagine after all of the frustrating, bullshit drama we had to deal with between Sonic's return and Patch's reveal. We finally get them back together, and he wants to stretch the whole thing out for nearly 40 issues. Imagine the landmark issue of a Sonic the Hedgehog comic being a wedding of all things. God, imagine the awful things Penders would've done for drama too. I absolutely bet that he was gonna have Evil Sonic and Bunnie's relationship revealed to Antoine and we'd be shown first hand about the horrendous bullshit about Antoine needing to "forgive" Bunnie for it, despite the fact that Bunnie was manipulated into it. The very thought of Antoine having to "forgive" her for what happened to Bunnie being actual drama material disgusts me to my very core. 2. The idea of Snively doing this is absolutely laughable. Unless I'm mistaken, the last time we even saw him was when he originally joined the Freedom Fighters, and there, he had a very devious "Does this mean you trust me?" line. So now we expect that the self-serving guy who's only ever been self-serving is suddenly so good, and so selfless that he'd allow himself to die to pull this off? Really?? I'm just also going to save myself some time and say the following issue plan was dumb too. Sonic is broken up over Snively's death? Really? He's blaming the other Freedom Fighters because Snively died? Give me a fucking break. Oh yes, wonderful. Let's add someone else to the list of characters who get to pull rank on Sally and overwrite her authority. Sonic. Sonic. The guy who doesn't like coming up with plans and likes just working in the heat of the moment, he is the guy who now gets to overwrite Sally's authority. Yeah, here's how this should go. Sally issues a command to the Freedom Fighters in the midst of battle, Sonic attempts to overwrite her command, and yet can't actually come up with a plan of attack, and the others would laugh off the idea of taking commands from Sonic. That's not a knock on Sonic, but come. on. Sonic is not the tactician, he has never been the tactician, he goes in and works in the heat of the moment, and that's because he's fast enough to do that. The whole point of Sonic and Sally's dynamic is that Sonic is hasty, while Sally is a tactician. Both approaches have their merits, but the dynamic breaks when you remove Sally from the equation and suddenly decide Sonic should be some commander issuing out orders to the FF as if they were his personal battle squadron. At best, if this came up - I'd imagine a quick joke between Sonic and Sally where Sonic says something like "Heh, guess this means I don't have to listen to your orders anymore!" and Sally replies with a half-joking "When have you ever listened to my orders?". Just a quick mention of it where Sonic teases that while he'd technically hold rank over her, he doesn't actually care, because he never cared for authority anyways. I'm so happy that Ian got rid of the Gentleman at Arms shit three issues into his run. So, let me get this straight. Evil Sonic is going around, doing bad things and blaming Sonic for it. And instead of Sonic just stopping him, he needs to provoke a fight? What?? Why does Evil Sonic need to initiate the fight!? When has that ever stopped Sonic?! THE DUDE IS LITERALLY IMPERSONATING YOU AGAIN!! JUST STOP HIM!! WHAT IS THIS?! So, yet again - our heroic Sonic decides to be just as awful as Evil Sonic. He treats women as objects, people to be manipulated in order to get what he wants, with zero regard to their feelings, thoughts, or how it might effect them. Sure, Rouge would probably not care and go along with it, but that isn't the point. The point is Sonic is doing a horrible fucking thing. He would not only be manipulating Rouge to provoke someone, he'd also be cheating on Fiona while he's at it. It's funny for how much Ken likes to claim he's a feminist and how he tried to push for strong female representation, he has zero fucking issues having the heroes of the book use and manipulate them as simple objects without thoughts and feelings of their own in order to achieve their own random goals. This is disgusting. Utterly disgusting on all fucking fronts. And if this issue happened, I would be done. Archie Sonic would be an absolute scumbag of a character. This isn't a thing heroic characters do, this is villainous. Downright villainous, and it's no better than what Evil Sonic did. What a absolute trash-pit of an idea. Oh look at that. Yet another contrived reason to get Sonic and Knuckles into a fight, who would've thought. I guess with Shadow taking temporary leave, we had to find someone else to pick up the slack with pointless random fights. Let's ignore the fact Knuckles and the Chaotix have been working with the Freedom Fighters for ages. What is there even to say? You summed it up perfectly, I don't think Knuckles would care. If Station Square had actively invaded then and there and got away with the Master Emerald - then sure. But if that was the case, there is zero way a properly written Sonic would side with Station Square, he'd be helping Knuckles get it back. It's just contrived. Contrived garbage for the sake of making up contrived conflicts. It's amazing just how many bullets we actually dodged with Penders' leaving. Like seriously, it's downright amazing. Instead of the amazing revival and reinvention of this series Ian Flynn gave us, we could've had more and more of this absolute garbage. Out of all of these ideas, the only one I say is even feasibly alright is the one involving Jules, and even then, I sure as hell wouldn't trust Penders to do it any kind of justice. All of these ideas are just terrible, absolutely terrible. Filled with all of the awful tropes Penders' was infamous for during his tenure, and even some of those tropes are brought to their absolute extreme of horrendous here. But, that's all the more reason to be thankful these are scrapped plans, because Penders would never get the chance to use them. He left over SEGA not sharing the plans for Shadow the Hedgehog, and they took a chance on Ian Flynn, and that gamble paid off big-time. A new era has opened up for the Archie Sonic series, a new era that is consistently good all the way up to the end. The dark age was absolutely horrendous, but now it's time for a new dawn...
  18. 5 points
    Wraith

    Cancel Culture Needs to Stop

    Brands are soulless by design and make changes based on the slightest bit of pressure. Some IP have gotten worse about this over the years, but Looney Tunes was basically always like this to me and Lola in particular got heavily altered a long time ago, so I didn't see the big deal at the time and I still don't really see it now. The thing about it being Lola that was the center of the controversy in particular is that she was always a corporate grasp at girl-power. The idea of what that looked like just changed. I wonder if she was controversial 20 years ago for the same reasons as she is now. In general I think this topic is actually about a lot of different issues and it needs to be dived up. Not every response to vaguely left leaning critique should fall under the umbrella of "cancel culture" imo. Serious sexual misconduct allegations probably shouldn't be paired with cartoon boobs.
  19. 5 points
    Dr. Mechano

    Cancel Culture Needs to Stop

    None of your examples are "cancel culture," is the thing. A company choosing to change its own products of its own volition - even if it is for the purpose of adapting to changing worldviews - isn't being "cancelled." It's just redesigning or - in Pepe's case - retiring a character. I do think "cancelling" can be a serious issue when it applies to real people, but I also want to be clear that I don't think rightly criticizing someone for their words and actions is "cancel culture" in and of itself. I'm referring more to digging up decade-old posts that espouse views that these people may not even hold anymore for the purpose of tearing them down. That's not good, and it certainly doesn't help anyone. I'd happily agree that this sort of "cancel culture" is bad. So yes. I think something you could call "cancel culture" exists and is a problem. But I also think the term is ridiculously overused to deflect criticism in general, and is even applied to things that are so far removed from the very concept of "cancelling" - like this example of a private company changing aspects of its own brand - that the term is quickly losing all meaning.
  20. 5 points
    I cannot stand Dillin. He's deluded and insufferable. Anyways, there's plenty of things to criticize Flynn for. Right off the bat, Dillin is very nitpicky, whining about the comics being more like the games, which is something a lot of fans actually wanted. He also criticizes Tracey's artstyle, which has nothing to do with Flynn's writing, and Scourge's jacket getting flames of all things. His "proof" that Ian has no respect for the series is... Sonic laughing at Crocbot. He's also mad about Crocbot, Mecha, and Sir Connery getting killed off. Y'know, characters that nobody cared about. I stopped listening after this. I'm no writer myself, so it's hard for me to really criticize someone's writing, but like I said, Ian Flynn did make some choices that I know I didn't like, and I've seen plenty of others with similar complaints. But this really isn't it. Dillin has a history of being mad for the sake of being mad, so I'd take all his "criticisms" with a grain of salt.
  21. 5 points
    I myself have been banking on him hastily editing the SEGA characters into just-altered-enough expies in order to justify what he's doing. Given what we've seen of Penders coloring/inking/shading in general, I get the feeling that THIS is good idea of what we're in for if this ever does see the light of day-
  22. 5 points
    "It's kind of like what they did to classic Star Trek episodes" oh you mean that thing everybody hates? Ok.
  23. 4 points
    Got my first shot of the COVID-19 vaccine a few hours ago. Thankfully no major symptoms, besides my arm being a bit sore.
  24. 4 points
    New photos.: Also, here is a reply from one of the people who had something to talk about the guy in the air.:
  25. 4 points
    Slashy

    Sonic the Hedgehog 2: Movie Megathread

    So GUN exists in the film universe. https://mobile.twitter.com/yvrshoots/status/1384022707377893380?s=21
  26. 4 points
    Ian's run is full of deep cuts. Harvey Who, Shard, hell even turning St. John into an out and out villain stems from the fact he shows up in Naugus' inaugural issue wearing a dusty travelers cloak. I have my criticisms which are Kind of the standard Josh Wheaton hang ups, action fatigue rushing to each shake up too quick without fully exploring the new status quo, but I never got the impression that Ian was anything but a fan of what came before him.
  27. 4 points
    So he defends characters no one else cares about, and how many consider it a jump in quality? Yeah crockbot was ridiculous in the Tails mini, only looking badass on the covers, but him and octobot fused was kinda ridiculous and again both were comedy villains in the Tails mini. Sir Connery at least got a heroic sacrifice and saved everyone when he went out. I suppose people were tired of Mogoul as he was turned into a joke for a bit, before his reinvention as a patient Kingpin like character. Loved how he made Nagus more compelling later on too. Fiona works as a villain, though her turn was a tad rushed, though I like how the story pointed out she seemed to be attracted to Evil Sonic before moving to the regular one.
  28. 4 points
    I really hope with the renewed interest in lost content and finding old betas and all that, we'll eventually get some of the more famous cut stuff from Twinsanity. It'd be so cool to finally see proper gameplay of Gone a Bit Coco.
  29. 4 points
    You like crossovers?
  30. 4 points
    My favorite fake Sonic leak was back in 2008, when someone claimed Unleashed's final boss was going to be a "Were-Eggman" where Eggman turned into a walrus.
  31. 4 points
    Man, this little guy was tricky to build! You guys should give these guys a look, thanks @Badnik Mechanic for showing these off, bought him cause of you!
  32. 4 points
    There's almost a lot of Sonic news right now. Like, we're expecting to hear about so many different things and nothing has amounted to anything yet. SEGA have been waiting on news of some kind since SXSW was cancelled last year, but have gone dead silent on the matter. There's likely a 2021 major new game (/one to be announced for a release next year) for the 30th anniversary celebrations, but SEGA haven't said a peep. Several voice actors have left, but we haven't got a clue who the replacements might be. Sonic Colours Ultimate's existence has been leaked, but there's no saying when SEGA will actually show it off. Sonic Prime exists, but we know nothing about it apart of the most basic premise.
  33. 4 points
    I know every generation will say "man, cartoons back in such-and-such date were unreal" but man... thinking about 2002-06 cartoons just hits differently for me. Every channel just seemed to be firing on all cylinders with hits coming out left and right. Of course a lot of legendary shit came out before and after but... there's something about a time when Codename: KND, Code Lyoko, Fosters, My Life as a Teenage Robot, Kim Possible, Danny Phantom, and the mf og Teen Titans (to name a few) were all airing at once and I just get dizzy with glee
  34. 4 points
    A fair point, but consider how much higher a profile (and budget!) Balan must have versus your average shovelware. Squandering those arguably makes it a far bigger flop than your average bad game; or at the very least, it makes it natural that it should receive so much more negative attention.
  35. 4 points
    I don't think they would unless it cost too much. But we do know Paramount is at least giving Pat and Casey a lot of freedom so hopefully they're prioritizing plot over bloat. Just a simple action movie plot with minimal exposition please.
  36. 4 points
    Getting my second COVID shot tomorrow. I can't wait. I should celebrate with a smoothie.
  37. 4 points
    so pontaff may not have the best reputation, but "let's make like eggman's hairline and recede" is legendary
  38. 4 points
    They’re removing Balan’s demo lol
  39. 4 points
    I love YouTubers who have absolutely no technical knowledge of videos games, their development process and the years of work by dedicated community members to datamine them, but rake in millions of views just lifting articles almost verbatim from places like TCRF, Hidden Palace and Sonic Retro. They basically just steal the work of orders, and when there are citations made they're typically so poor that people don't know where to look to learn more themselves. Bonus points for when they inevitably include ludicrous theories that are demonstrably false, again because they don't actually have a fucking clue what they're talking about.
  40. 4 points
    2nd dose get!
  41. 4 points
    Milo

    cursed [tweet]

    cursed [tweet]
  42. 4 points
    Wraith

    Sonic 30th predictions

    Personally it's pretty obvious to me he doesn't actually have a clue. He's just seeding the right "hot topic issues" like Classic Sonic and SA1 remake into his posts to get attention. The rest is guesswork.
  43. 4 points
    I can't think of any better expression of love for the medium that he could make.
  44. 3 points
    Legitimately shocked.
  45. 3 points
    Natie

    Sonic the Hedgehog 2: Movie Megathread

    Seems like, whatever the plot, this film's gonna be even more chock full of fanservice references than the last film.
  46. 3 points
    I doubt there was a rule against films specifically before. The only limiting factor for Smash music seems to be how much legal red tape is involved, and film soundtracks are their own can of worms in that regard.
  47. 3 points
    My parents got their first dose of the vaccine. It's both a great feeling and a huge relief to know that they're safe now.
  48. 3 points
    SBR2

    Archie Sonic Main Discussion

    I'm a little kinder on that then most people are because it came at a particularly hard time for me. My mom was having heart problems and fell into a coma and died all over the course of that storyline (in fact the issue Metal Sonic blows up in Antoine's face was the exact time she passed away) so seeing Sonic and his friends going through heavy hardships and most importantly overcoming them was something that was very helpful to me in that time. I know that's a very specific thing and not everyone will feel what I feel and yeah there's some issues but that period is important to me.
  49. 3 points
    Considering that the game was being charged for a full on $60.00, it definitely earned some ire. You come at us with a AAA price, then you better deliver something good. The higher you charge versus how bad a game turns out to be, can be quite influential of its rating. Balan Wonderworld got exactly what it deserved.
  50. 3 points
    Blue Wisp

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