Ferno

I still remember the days when CN just showed Naruto during the regular block lol.

I honestly don't have a problem with the series going ultra cartoony sometimes. Lost World's problem was exclusively using flat colours and   flat lighting. Forces went a weird middle ground with great lighting, but seemed to be terrified of putting any detail at all into its textures.

they could have leaned harder into the zany stuff and redesigned the main characters and it would have been fine but they decided on this weird half step from the grounded modern style that's never really expressive or interesting to look at

I somewhat appreciated being able to see 3d revisions on many of the classic Badniks, and find their simpler, round and more accurate look more appealing than their Colors-Generations look. Though not without it's flaws, it went too far with giving them all detailed eyes and eyelids, and some just swing towards the opposite extreme with it's cartoon exaggeration, Crabmeat and Spinner for instance.

I guess that's how it goes when donning the Mario way of taking old enemies and put them in stages over and over again versus unique enemies for just one act.

Oh yeah, the Badniks in Lost World were gorgeous. They had that weird glittery texture on them and it looked pretty lush. They were more cartoony than ever before and it worked.
 

I wish so hard that SEGA would move away from the round and featureless modern character models. They're so boring! Even the models used in the Olympics and Racing games are better, with the characters looking sharper and having their Adventure-era eyebrows. SA2 still has the best character model by a very wide margin.

Only thing I don't like about the sports game sonic models are how the mouth is always locked to the center. Other than that they're pretty solid

I loved the Badnik designs from Lost World even if they could had used bit more detail IMO. They gave a nice cartoony seemingly harmless look I imagine Eggman aiming for when building his grunt bots. I felt the Generations bot designs were kinda to obvious evil looking.

Far as the world art style itself? Lost World was alright... but it really lacked extra detail which a real Sonic art style should have I say. It especially needed far more of a roller-coaster feel to the landscape and less of a blocky look to everything. I would prefer something between Lost World & Unleashed myself for world art style.

@Ferno Yeah, I can agree with that. I think that the characters mouths should generally be centre but need to move around depending on the characters behaviour and what they're saying. Side mouths only look good if they're used right. The speech bubbles in Forces all look absolutely fine with side mouths (except Rouge because her entire model sucks). But Sonic's mouth in this cutscene just looks bad in everything but his first line:

EDIT: As it happens, the thumbnail is the perfect case in point!

Tbh, I don't know how technically possible it is but imo they really should have 3 mouth positions for Sonic minimum in the main games, the two side options, and a middle one for shots like the one posted above to avoid awkward scenes like that

They already use 2  mouth positions so a third shouldn't be that hard.

Sonic looks like nightmare fuel when you render all his mouths at once. HAhaa~

Well, the two mouths work really simply. Sonic has two meshes for his muzzle area, one with his mouth on the left and the other with his mouth on the right. The game just switches between meshes depending on which side is closer to the camera. It's easiest to see in Unleashed, cause that's the last game to have free camera control.

@Lord-Dreamerz Allow me to introduce you to Super Sonic in Lost World.

those dual-mouth sonic images cursed me because its what I tend to think about now whenever I see anime girls with mouths drawn like this

@Blue Blood

I remember that! Hohoo still amuses me how the devs goofed up on it.

They should do a gag like the Mickey Mouse episode where they lampshade how his ears stay facing the camera and make Sonic move his mouth around, grow twos mouths and then make his mouth appear on his belly. He eventually reveal his mouth takes up his entire muzzle, but his lips cover it like a zipper:

but in a positive sense that feeling can also be described as old flawed foundations being broken down and prepped to be rebuilt more solidly too

I'm more perplexed at how the small eye is straight while his right eye is slanted towards the edge

Actually Sonic has three noses

Three noses and two butt cracks.

Still I should get lightweight software like Krita and FireAlpaca going on it later to try out.

*its currently downloading a buttload of backlogged windows 10 updates since its been off for a long time*

alriiiighty then

I never liked AMVs and just thought they were pretty dumb personally, but to each their own and all that. I just couldn't see the appeal in the slightest.

And Sonic AMVs set to Sonic songs aren't what I remember either. The ones that I saw were random clips from Riders and Secret Rings set to death metal.

I keep reading it as Blyth.

blyat

I’m honestly surprised that we haven’t gotten one already now that I’m thinking about it tbh.

Listening to that song and the other Tomoya Ohtani compositions on that soundtrack compared to the stuff he does now, I can't help but think "Man...his stuff got weak and soft.."

my music tastes were very limited back then so at the time the mix of orchestral, rap and rock all in one song blew my mind tbh

If nothing else, I thank Sonic 2006 for introducing me to Zebrahead.

"The degradation in video quality due to repeated viewings is what adds to the charm of VHS. It's a harrowing reminder of our fleeting mortality and a metaphor for the human condition" -VHS fans, probably

Fun Is Infiant

my choices be like

I'm on Team Arle and now I'm sad :C

I want Geno still, mostly to make everyone in the "SMRPG is obscure/isn't relevant" camp really mad

i'm on team "arle or dante both sound like rad choices"

ARLE OR NOTHING BABYYYYY

Arle should come out, but Nintendo reveal that Smash Ult is being updated into Puyo Puyo Ultimate, and when you install the patch, it can never be reverted

That sounds amazing, no regrets

Meanwhile I'm here waiting for Suda51 to break hopes of people here and announce Travis Touchdown. 

Sakurai's hand pose is just too coincidental with Suda doing the same sign on the photo he made with Sakurai. 

Or it's just a random pose

Arle is in Smash

as a mii fighter costume 

#believe

I'm here just waiting on Claude von Riegan as post-pass DLC.

Yep and he got a fuck-ton of love in Mania with "& Knuckles" mode.

The worst part is that so long as the Game Awards set such an abysmally low bar for E3 to step over with reveals, it still has a just reason to even be existing at this point when all other signs point to discontinuing it.