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Dr. Mechano

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  1. Brooklyn is the Mario fandom's Mobius.

    1. SupahBerry

      SupahBerry

      At least Nintendo can still reference that canon by implying that NYC exists on the Mario World.

       

      Mario's not the one that lacks the brain cells to make everything exist in just one world, and not have it all be called "Mario's World." Sure the Mushroom World is hardly an improvement, but it's something. 

    2. Dr. Mechano

      Dr. Mechano

      Yeah, New Donk City was a nice compromise for us old fans. I'll take what I can get, for sure.

    3. Zaysho

      Zaysho

      With the whole "two worlds" thing you'd think they'd just slap the Mobius name on Sonic's world and Earth on the human world.

    4. Dr. Mechano

      Dr. Mechano

      Although Paper Jam did try to separate the Paper series to its own universe.

      ...which was immediately ignored again in Color Splash, which directly referenced SMB3 and Mario Kart, so I guess Paper Jam's retcon got un-retconned.

    5. Forte-Metallix

      Forte-Metallix

      I just imagine certain games happened in both worlds (Or all three, if you consider Mario & Luigi separate from main-series Mario), just like how Classic and Modern Sonic both had 1-3K and CD, albeit in different ways. (Character designs, Super Emeralds, etc.)

    6. Dr. Mechano

      Dr. Mechano

      I consider all Mario games (and their spinoff series, like Wario, Donkey Kong, and Yoshi) to take place in one unified world.

      Paper Jam's storybook version of Paper Mario being an anamoly that isn't the same as the "real" Paper Mario games, which themselves openly reference other games as actual events that happened. Each of the Paper games, sans Paper Jam, makes direct references to other, non-Paper games.

      Considering Partners in Time directly references Yoshi's Island, I think it's clear the M&L series are part of the "main" world (i.e. the only world) as well.

      If anything, we could take the "Paper" storybook as being a book version of events the "real" Mario went through. So stuff like Bowser stealing the Star Rod, the invasion of the X-Nauts, the fight with the Shadow Queen, Count Bleck, etc. all happened - just not in the stylized "paper" aesthetic that we saw in the games.

       

      Considering Paper Mario debut characters like the Goomba King and the Star Spirits have appeared in other games, as well.

    7. SupahBerry

      SupahBerry

      Remember when people said that Paper Mario's games took place in Rosalina's storybook?

    8. Dr. Mechano

      Dr. Mechano

      That'd be okay. I'm fine with the Paper games as a sort of dramatization, sure. 

      But I dislike the idea that those stories are somehow "less canon" than the other games.

    9. SupahBerry

      SupahBerry

      Super Mario 3 was confirmed as a stage show. Perhaps we should call SMB3 non canon as well.

    10. Dr. Mechano

      Dr. Mechano

      Yeah, but SMB3 itself gets referenced in later games.

      I think the "stage show" version of SMB3 is, again, a dramatization of the "real" SMB3.

      How the story is depicted is unimportant. Be it on a stage, in a pop-up book, or through 2D sprites or 3D models. To me, this is all mere flavoring, and not something that indicates something as canon or non-canon.

    11. Ferno

      Ferno

      I've never really been a fan of the Mobius name tbh. But if the Robotnik name transfered over to the Japanese canon, they may as well bring the Mobius name over too if they can't think of anything else, though imo I'd just call them both earth, or "the alternate earths"

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