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  1. Just now, DCFCSonic20 said:

    For some people, bad trailers used reverse psychology to make people go see it. 

    I've seen plenty of people in the YouTube comments section saying they'll "go see the film to see how bad it is." Then maybe they'll be shocked when it actually turns out to be semi-decent or actually good.

    Imagine how many people people they could get to want to see it if they actually made a good trailer that made the movie look good.

  2. Just now, DCFCSonic20 said:

    A bad reaction to a trailer is better than no reaction at all. For all we know, that may be the marketing strategy to make people go see said film. 

    Heck for all we know, that might be what Paramount is trying to do with the Sonic movie. 

    Making your film look like garbage is a really bad way to make people want to see it.

    Then again, plenty of people gave the Emoji Movie irony money so maybe bad movies are the way of the future.

  3. 1 minute ago, DCFCSonic20 said:

    Maybe not, if said film is given praise by critics after what seems to be of an abomination of a trailer. It does seem to overrule the trailer as a marketing strategy. What if said trailer was bad because the marketing team had no idea how to put together an exciting trailer that made people want to go see it?

    Bad marketing can easily make a product look bad, but that doesn't mean that said trailer can't be overturned by positive reviews from critics and the public alike.

    Then they should get a new marketing team and give us a trailer that doesn't make the movie look like shlock.

  4. 1 minute ago, DCFCSonic20 said:

    That is a terrible reason for not wanting to watch it. Whatever happened to don't judge a book by its cover? Has that phrase literally been thrown out the window?

    What are trailers for if not to sell people on your product? If you make your product look bad, then can you really blame people for not liking it?

  5. 1 minute ago, Ming Ming Hatsune said:

    You are really underestimating that, especially to the ones who are on Reddit and communities who post about the dislikes and they follow the leader. Let me remind you that Bieber has 10M dislikes to his name.

    I think you vastly overestimate that, especially when those usually net a couple dozen, maybe if we're talking Bieber, maybe a few hundred tops. But certainly not enough to get the kinds of numbers the Sonic movie is seeing.

  6. 2 minutes ago, Ming Ming Hatsune said:

    I did not say EVERYONE that hit the dislike button did it for lulz. But there are thousands of them.

    Most people really don't care that much. Sonic as a franchise is still popular, but there are very few people really truly petty enough to go out of their way to dislike a movie trailer for a franchise that, again, while still popular, has long since past it's heyday.

    Most people viewing it are pretty casual compared to you or I.

  7. 2 minutes ago, Ming Ming Hatsune said:

    I’ll ignore this. There are thousands that go and hit dislike because they were told to or for lulz.

    Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare Reveal Trailer and Justin Bieber’s Baby are two of the top four most disliked videos on YT. But look at their successes. So dislikes really mean nothing.

    Or maybe people really just don't like what they see? Like, again, with Ghostbusters 2016?

    Not everything is a troll or ploy.

  8. 5 minutes ago, Sonic Fan J said:

    Arguably that's a majority of l dislikes that is far below the view count and is barely around 50% greater than the likes. If anything it more goes to show that it is not universal as you are arguing. Now that isn't to say that the dislike is not widespread, but your sample works against probing a universal standard.

    If this were the only place that the movie were being discussed, I'd agree. But it isn't.

    There's also the backlash on places like Twitter, other videos (Hi, guy who uploaded that Sonic Armageddon video. A good few of the comments I've gotten are regarding this movie.)

    So universal? Probably a poor choice of words, sure. But the majority is definitely expecting this to be a dud.


    Wrong as some whose made videos since 07, a YouTube like bar equates to noting but random people clicking a button. That does not speak on a films success. Venom was panned by critics but people actually enjoyed the film. 

    Ghostbuster 2016 says hello.

  9. 4 minutes ago, Operationgamer17 said:

    The typical "They tried their best" defense.

    I wonder if I could call up my old teachers who gave me homework/tests/projects I failed and get my permanent record fixed up if I tell them I did my best.

  10. With this franchise I've learned to have not have any sort of expectations at all because Sega, and particularly Sonic Team move in eradict, unpredictable ways.

    But you don't really have to have any sort of expectations to know when something sucks. I can go into any resturant, not any one in particular, and know when I'm being served shit on a plate.

  11. 3 minutes ago, PeterPancake said:

     Also, at the time when Sonic 06 was revealed at E3, nobody knew the game would turn out to be such a huge disaster.

    Things are different now. We've seen a lot of shit in the what, 13 years since '06?

    It doesn't take a detective to see from a mile away that something just isn't right.

  12. Just now, Splash the Otter said:

    So is there any chance of us getting a better movie later, or is Sonic's film career ruined forever?

    If history has taught us one thing, it's that Sega does not care about how spectacularly something fails and doesn't learn from their mistakes.

    They'll keep bumbling around with Sonic movies and we can hope they give us something half decent eventually.

  13. Just now, Marco9966 said:

    Marvel has comic fans as directors!

    Not that I think this movie will be good in any capacity, mind you, but being a fan doesn't necessarily mean what you make will be good. MCU movies are good because they have incredibly talented people who know what they're doing on board. Even if you're the most passionate fan in the world, your direction can still be misguided.

    The problem with the Sonic movie isn't that the people making it aren't fans, it's that they have no idea what they're doing.

  14. Just now, Ming Ming Hatsune said:

    DP certainly had better reception, but that doesn't translate to the film being good.

    TR had a better reception than Sonic.

    Generally speaking, bad movies don't get good scores. There's a reason the highest rated films of all time on something like say, IMDb are movies that re usually considered good. Bad movies also don't get the kind of good press that Detective Pikachu has been getting.

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