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  1. The way the title cuts off on the embed, it's just "Sonic Forces Sold Very Well… No…"
  2. update on self: my attempt to avoid sonic things resulted in drawing shadow the hedgehog and watching sonic boom

    in retrospect, that's exactly what avoiding actual sonic looks like

    1. DoubleXXCross

      DoubleXXCross

      also my friend made the cutest ocs on forces and another friend sang highly enough of it for me to forgive them so there's my anti-sonic agenda right there

       

  3. I mean, the more I think about it, the more it hits me.

    This is an actual abuse cycle.

    Constantly returning and trying to see the best in it all despite not having a reason why is the trait of an abuse victim.

    If we started tweeting in the #WhyIStayed hashtag we wouldn't even be very far off-base.

    1. Clewis

      Clewis

      It's just a videogame.

    2. Super Mechanio

      Super Mechanio

      Just do what I did and stop buying bad games.

      Shadow the Hedgehog broke my consistent buying streak over a decade ago. Since then, I've only bought occasional Sonic games that actually looked good to me (such as Mania) rather than throwing my money away for every single bad-to-mediocre piece of trash that Sega releases.

      The first time is the hardest. Once you skip one bad game, it'll be easier to skip the next.

    3. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      Not that I don't see where you may be coming from... but this is a video game about a blue hedgehog.

      The cause that hashtag is meant for is incredibly night and day in actual importance. Even comparing the two is overly dramatic to flat out insulting at best.

    4. DoubleXXCross

      DoubleXXCross

      I don't even buy them anymore. It's more.

      How do I make myself stop drawing?

      How do I make myself stop playing?

      How do I make myself stop liking?

    5. Super Mechanio

      Super Mechanio

      I mean, that doesn't hurt anything.

      I'm not invested in the franchise as it stands anymore, but I don't think it's unhealthy to still like the good parts.

      Just treat Sonic as a fun hobby and not as an obligation and you'll be fine. When Sonic does release a stinker, have fun with it. Watch from the sidelines and enjoy the trainwreck like I do, or just ignore it and focus on the games you like if you'd rather not fixate on the series' bad parts.

      Either way, there's nothing wrong with continuing to like the series even if you've largely abandoned it from a commercial support standpoint.

    6. DoubleXXCross

      DoubleXXCross

      There is if the stuff I like in it is specifically the stuff that has no actual merit whatsoever.

    7. Monkey Destruction Switch

      Monkey Destruction Switch

      This is extremely overdramatic and rather demeaning to those in...you know, actual abuse situations. Bad video games are not abuse and the idea of thinking that comparison is the teeniest bit accurate in any way, shape or form is ridiculous and offensive. If you just made a quick off-hand comment making this analogy, it's possible it might not be easier to overlook depending on the circumstances, but calling it an "actual abuse cycle" and referencing the #WhyIStayed hashtag?? If you're trying to be funny, it's not working. You really need to adjust your perspective if you think this makes sense.

    8. Kiah

      Kiah

      @Monkey Destruction Switch hit the nail on the head but learn some tact and don’t be so insensitive and inconsiderate for goodness sake.

    9. King Koopone

      King Koopone

      Unless you was involved in the game whether it was PR or development and got abused by staff/people or playing an online multiplayer game with text/voice chat, it isn't an abuse situation at all. It is a gaming series, a fictional product that depending on how you obtained it could have a physical form. Nearly every series whether it is a game, a cartoon, a TV show, movie or anime all have their ups and downs, just some show it more than others. All you have to do is ask people who are fans of mismanaged series such as Mega Man and chances are that they still like the series despite what Capcom have done. Most of the time, Sonic doesn't have parts to get offensive about and he is safe enough for anyone to enjoy from kids to parents. Besides that hashtag are for real life situations, Sonic is not a real life situation.

      You can still be a fan of the series despite not playing the recent games, reading the comics or watching the newer cartoons. You don't have to be involved too much with the blue hedgehog to be a fan. I mean after Sonic Heroes and the disappointment that caused me, I was very careful with my purchases of the games. Buying ones that I'll know that I'll like and skipping those that I don't, it worked very well. I can choose what parts to like for Sonic and considering so many variations of the character, both design and media there is plenty of choice.

    10. Depression Kong

      Depression Kong

      I'm going to assume from your radio-silence and lack of a reply that you got all that "i can't stop paying attention to this series" stuff sorted out.

      Farewell.

  4. I mentioned it actual months ago. He's not done anything since. Presumably busy still plotting background information for a comic he hasn't written past Issue 0 (that being, of course, a comic whose last page he's simply replaced).
  5. So..its no longer "classic" sonic. Smart??

    They're not erasing "Classic" Sonic by making him a different character to "Modern" Sonic; they're really more creating it. Without marking a distinction, both were just Sonic. From Generations onwards they're now officially addressed and treated as characters with different looks, gameplay and value. Also… Congrats for picking the only shot in that entire animation where they look remotely the same height…which they don't! It's purely because they're leaning forward and their feet are cut off by the bottom of the frame, thus their heads are actually aligned, but even then you can tell Classic is smaller than Modern. In any case I think it's pretty obvious that Classic was supposed to 'grow' into Modern simply because the game is about time-travelling through the history of the Sonic franchise. It was never meant to be visually literal, and Classic Sonic is not meant to be a child version of Modern (any more than Modern Sonic is himself a child); but Classic being Modern's actual past self in Generations is not just logical but the only conclusion one can draw from: Sonic: Is it me, or is that place we were just in awfully familiar? Tails: This Chemical Plant feels familiar. I'd never forget a smell like this! And that pink water makes me really nervous for some reason. Sonic: You're right Tails, this place is giving me deja vu all over again! Amy: Thank you, Sonic. Wow, you look younger every day! What's your secret? Modern Tails: Places and enemies from our past... Both Tails: We're travelling through time and space! Classic Tails: When that thing goes through time— Modern Tails: When the Sonics accelerate through time— Classic Eggman: If you would be so kind as to explain, gentleman genius Dr. Eggman From The Future. Classic Eggman: Oh, you are too kind, my dear future self! Modern Sonic: Hey Sonic! Enjoy your future. It's gonna be great! Oh, right, and the enemy is called the Time Eater and appears during an event (Sonic's birthday/Sonic's anniversary) that explicitly marks the passage of time. Let's not forget that.
  6. Sonic Forces Avatar Sharing/Discussion Thread

    Well, considering the purpose of the character customiser (immediately child-accessible, needs to fit the rig used for all animations in both gameplay and cutscenes to avoid even just the worst bits of clipping, needs to fit all accessories and skin textures without significant blurring if any at all, features as gameplay reward) and how long it would take to implement a 'proper' designer to any satisfying effect… Like, I'm not sure what an 'actual character designer' function would look like, or what its parametres would be. But I have a feeling its output, for all the good faith implied, wouldn't look nearly as good in practice as what you're thinking it would.
  7. Was Sonic Forces False Advertising?

    But as you say, it "gave the implication". If they actually said anything specific to that effect, it's false advertising (though probably not illegally so), but if they didn't, it's entirely on you. (Besides, I imagine the purpose of improving it was to make the background events run smoother. That's a lot of extra polygons, animation and lighting calculation on screen for what amounts to no practical reason beyond being interesting.)
  8. Was Sonic Forces False Advertising?

    Maybe consider this. The developers of No Man's Sky made several promotional statements prior to initial launch about features in their game. Not about something plot-related and nebulous like characters having a bigger role (which compared to the Sonic Team games made from Colours onwards, they definitely do) or whether Shadow is an actual bad guy or not (that, sweetheart, is called a bait and switch and was itself part of the game's story) but about actual gameplay features. When these features didn't surface at launch, they were actually investigated for false advertising by the Advertising Standards Authority. And cleared. Because said features were not the concern of the final advertising, and what differences the ASA could see between advertising and their best bet at recreation was so minor that it did not fall out of what could be expected for pre-release vs final. As for the engine concern, they never said it was running on the same engine as Unleashed, neither did they ever contradict that they were referring to a graphics engine. And even if the Hedgehog Engine and Hedgehog Engine 2 were successive game engines, nothing about the engine's name containing a 2 legally guarantees better quality. Otherwise Disney would've been straight out of business in the 90s.
  9. There's literally an image for this that I'm not allowed to bring up due to an actual rule that will get me banned if I post it, apparently. But it's also perfectly true. We don't just have 'false hope' every time a 3D Sonic game is announced, we have so much 'false hope' it's a fucking meme. Even our breaking out of it is the meme. We get hyped, we get let down, we blow up, we swear never to be suckered in again, we are suckered in again. There's a reason it's called a cycle. It's a harsh criticism that obviously annoys a lot of people in the fanbase, but it's also a hard truth that hits the nail on the head and has been hitting the nail on the head for nearly a decade. That's how predictable this is. That nobody brought it up in the first 6 months after the game's announcement had me almost speechless. We could not possibly have developed enough good will in just two years after RoL to let this slide.
  10. Reaction to Forces: Public Discourse

    Interesting that Modern 3D Sonic is not actually a choice against Classic 2D in this selection. Is it because you've subconsciously recognised that it's provably not? Or are you rendering Modern as a default, somehow? Because a choice between Modern 3D, Modern 3D with friends, and Classic 2D comes out to a line-up of 2/3rds games nobody wants to buy. Because that's the thing we all need to get back into our heads: if we're fans of Modern Sonic, it has only ever been because of potential. It hasn't been because of the actual games. Outside the Sonic fandom there is no equal basis between liking Classic and liking Modern. They are not equally valid opinions. One of them is based in objective evidence. One of them isn't. People who aren't this fandom and don't have a stake in an imaginary good Modern 3D Sonic title actively recognise that.
  11. Sonic Forces: Instruction Manual

    And I'm still standing by basically all the other evidence that the Avatar was the core concept of the project from the get-go, Classic was the editor's push, and if Sonic Boom ever came into it it was only to steal the Enerbeam concept and nothing else, but whaddaya gonna do?
  12. I think the problem with saying that is Sonic Mania being an earth-shattering success is literally what just happened. For fifteen minutes Sonic was actually mainstream again. People not only liked it, they were actually allowed to like it. And it could've been kept up if only Mania hadn't been immediately succeeded by Forces.
  13. Sonic Forces SPOILER Thread

    I think I've become mean now.
  14. Sonic Forces SPOILER Thread

    Kevin's gonna be re-ticked then. Oi, @AAUK. Honey.
  15. Sonic Forces SPOILER Thread

    Oh man, Kevin's gonna be ticked.
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