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    Green Eyes got a reaction from FFWF in Does Shadow hold back when he fights Sonic?   
    I'm  kind of saying that Sonic's powers weren't intended to be like the Flashes' so they shouldn't be, I see no reason for him to act like he utilities speed force when he doesn't, and their different powers have different implications for how they interact with their world at large.
    Also "got legs" is a simplification, he also has nigh-infallible motorskills and split-second perception and decision skills,his balance is nothing to shake a stick at either. He also has chaos powers. Conversely, Sonic isn't just speedster doing speedster things, he had a defining role in the archetype itself and doesn't follow the conventions of masked-superhero-genre.
    I mean I guess I don't know for sure what the nature of Sonic's powers are, but Sonic Team never gave a supernatural explanation and I find it really rather unnecessary that they do. Tails can fly because he's got two Tails, Knuckles can punch because he's got strong arms, and Sonic can run because he's got fast legs. Even there you've got room for elaboration, like the implications for their required secondary superpowers, their metabolism and whatnot, I don't see why Marvel/DC-esque stuff is necessary.
    What's more, the Sonic series has already established a means of Sonic infiltrating solid objects; chaos control,or plain old breaking things, also SuperSonic would be pretty pointless if Sonic could run at the speed of light and phase through solid objects.
    I'm starting to find "got legs" funny I think I've spent too long on this post.
     
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    Green Eyes reacted to Indigo Rush in Sonic Gimmicks (Sonic Can Do More Than Just Running Fast!)   
    how about rolling and pinball physics
    can we get that gimmick back
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    Green Eyes reacted to Nepenthe in Shadow Vs Knuckles: Role of Rival   
    The small cast in Unleashed was actually derided as being dumb though considering the circumstances of its plot, and I agree with that criticism in regards to its casting. Like, just because it happened doesn't mean people were okay with it.
    No one knew of the events going on in SA1 to be able to conclude until it was too late that Chaos was going to destroy everything if he leveled up, thus there was no narrative incentive to call Knuckles for help. All Sonic and Tails were doing was engaging in a Chaos Emerald collectathon race with Eggman that they were handling decently well on their own, along with their own side quests and diversions. The same goes for everything going on in SA2 to a point; no one knew Eggman was gonna blow up the moon until he did it.
    Heroes, unlike the Adventures, has a different narrative set-up and overall plot progression where Eggman (or rather Metal) is blatantly saying that he will basically fuck over the planet in three days' time, meaning there is no point in focusing on anything else except getting to him and stopping him.
     
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    Green Eyes got a reaction from Monkey Destruction Switch in Does Shadow hold back when he fights Sonic?   
    I think technically Shadow is more powerful than Sonic, but his powers don't actually "work" all that well ...With the rings he wears, he can't use his full powers, but without his rings, he uses either all or nothing and it seems to be potentially damaging to himself.
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    Green Eyes got a reaction from Heckboy in Funny Sonic Stuff   
    Sonic no.

     
    I think they were going for "pisses all over the competition." but they kinda faffed it and got this instead.
    I can't tell what Sonic's sitting on?
     
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    Green Eyes got a reaction from Ayliffe in Funny Sonic Stuff   
    Sonic no.

     
    I think they were going for "pisses all over the competition." but they kinda faffed it and got this instead.
    I can't tell what Sonic's sitting on?
     
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    Green Eyes got a reaction from Adamabba in Funny Sonic Stuff   
    Sonic no.

     
    I think they were going for "pisses all over the competition." but they kinda faffed it and got this instead.
    I can't tell what Sonic's sitting on?
     
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    Green Eyes got a reaction from baba_944 in Funny Sonic Stuff   
    Sonic no.

     
    I think they were going for "pisses all over the competition." but they kinda faffed it and got this instead.
    I can't tell what Sonic's sitting on?
     
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    Green Eyes got a reaction from Klinsy in Things you do to cheer yourself up   
    Music,dancing,video games (duh), Art. Sometimes I enjoy cooking or preparing food.
    Unfortunately these same things I can really beat myself up about sometimes, well accept for video games.
    Honestly a lot of times it's just a simple thing like taking a shower, brushing my hair, having a cup of tea,eating,I guess you could kind a say it's just getting on with life. Sometimes I kind of feel like I can't go on and don't want to do anything and just stay in bed but that makes me feel worse, I don't feel better unless I actually do shit.
    My attitude to fictional characters has actually changed a lot since I was younger. I've kind of shied away from fictional role models for as long as I can remember, and feared developing an attitude of worship (which has some nasty baggage for me) and resented the accusation. Eventually, I kind of just supposed that I have heroes and role models too and that's ok . Perhaps more accurately, characters that I recognise as representing certain elements, themes and qualities that I admire or just relate to or can apply to my life. They make me happy.
     
     
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    Green Eyes got a reaction from Sonictrainer in Funny Sonic Stuff   
    Sonic no.

     
    I think they were going for "pisses all over the competition." but they kinda faffed it and got this instead.
    I can't tell what Sonic's sitting on?
     
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    Green Eyes reacted to Kiah in Things you do to cheer yourself up   
    There's things like talking to friends, listening to music, taking a walk or even taking a nap that help cheer me up when I am feeling down. Then there are other things that I do like look at a good bunch of the over 40,000 photos I have taken. They are reminders of wonderful memories and experiences I have had and the wonderful people I have come across in 32 years in regards to friends and family and that always makes me grateful as well as happy.
    Then there is this guy:

    It's no secret that I am a huge Sonic fan and my favorite character of all time definitely cheers me up. Whether it is me listening to many of the wonderful tracks from the games over the years, watching the characterization-building cutscenes, playing one of the video games, or enjoying variety among the cartoons, any one of those things is enough to cheer me up. I would do them all if I had the time
    Another thing I do is to take the focus off of myself and see what I can do for someone else as I love helping people. Unfortunately it seems like at least one of my friends either online or in real life is feeling down on stressed out about something all the time, so I make it a point to listen to them and allow them to vent, offer them some advice and/or encouragement and try to cheer them up. It helps cheer me up in the process.
    I love to bake, especially with my niece and nephews. Often we will bake something for me to take to my co-workers, for their classmates, my sister's daycare, or it simply being something for ourselves . If I'm not giving sweets to the kids, I like to make goodie bags for them too and seeing the huge smiles on their faces always brings a smile on my face as well.
    Doing something for someone else in effort to cheer them up never fails to cheer me up. It's definitely a win-win situation   
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    Green Eyes got a reaction from Kaotic Kanine in Fictional characters you hate/dislike?   
    SatAm, Robotnik, Lyric,Mephiles
    In general, any stereotypically "evil" character who's entire character is "evil" and nothing else, these particular suckers get my ire because they're what I'm familiar with.
    Why do they want to defeat the hero? Evil. Why do they get up in the morning? Evil. They eat evil, they sleep evil. It's boring.
    Sally Acorn and Boom! Amy, again they're an archetype I highly dislike...the StrongFemaleCharacter, hoo boy. Writers will never stop trying to remind you that these characters are female, and can "do things." actual characterisation be damned. Lola Bunny from space Jam can get lost too. (though thankfully she did.)
    That said. Sally Acorn was decent in the first season of SatAm but that's about it.
    With Sally this ended up with her being put on a higher and higher pedastal and this excelled to truly creepy levels when Archie's artists kept drawing her "sexy" and and writers  involved her in melodramatic bullshit involving Sonic's inherent wrongness. To this day I still find it disturbing. Sonic couldn't act without Sally, he was portrayed as stupid and wasn't allowed his own wants,his love of freedom was wrong, how is that not abusive? Maybe it's not neccisarily Sally that saw him as inherently wrong, but justifying Sally having total control over him is creepy either way.
    A part of the issue is relevancy. Tails in main canon occupies most of both Sally and Rotor's original roles, he's the smart guy, foil, tech guy and sane guy(when sometimes needed). Main! Sonic is independent and reasonably intelligent. Sally is pretty much toast.
    I think with the reboot things are being handled OK, I think there's a slight compromise to fit the characters around each other but it's more doable. I still don't find Sally an interesting character, but with Sally being more of an organiser while Tails and Sonic are moreso out in the field makes some sort of sense, what with Sonic and friends being much more of an organisation in this verse.
     
     
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    Green Eyes reacted to Vertekins in Defining moments of your favorite characters.   
    Come on! It has to be Sonic doesn't it?
     
    I consider SatBK extremely Sonic-defining. I mean damn, it's as if the writer saw what makes Sonic....y'know, SONIC and had the talent in bringing it out so well. You never see obnoxious flanderization here, these moments are never overplayed. They're believable and contribute to making Sonic such a funny, likable, morally-just and strong character.
     
    First establishing character moment in the game? The intro.
     
    The character's legendary self-assurance and cockiness is one full display here. He treats the situation the way only he can. This scene, everything about it was so, so characteristic of this guy. It's just pure awesomeness.
     
    Up goes the Chili Dog...
     

     
    Then comes his effortless taking-out of most of the opposition...
     

     
    And then he grabs the 'dog before it comes within even one meter of the ground...
     

     
    Second establishing character moment of the game?
     
    The predicament of the child and her kidnapped parents/fellow townsfolk.
     
    Here, Sonic has other priorities. He has a three day time limit to fulfill three requests made of him by Nimue; Defeat the Knights of the Underworld, free innocents from Arthur's dungeon and offer compassion to those in need. If Sonic does not fulfill these demands made of him, Nimue will not divulge to him the means to tackle Arthur head-on because he will not have proven himself worthy of the challenge in her view.
     
    We all know that for all of his shortcomings, ultimately Sonic is a guy who tries do the right thing because he's a hero that is depended-upon by many. But then it's also known that Sonic does his own thing as well regardless of what is expected of him and this was in full show when he stumbled across a distraught child and, knowing that Nimue's advice was imperative to his quest, decided to follow his own heart.
     

     
    Unbeknownst to him, this was all a part of Nimue's plan, a secret test of character designed to see if Sonic had the traits that constitute a true knight. By following his own heart and showing compassion, courage and strength as he did so, he passed with flying colours.
     
    Third establishing moment was his opposition to Merlina when she revealed her plans to place the Grand Kingdom in magical stasis.
     

     
    Merlina wanted to violate everyone's rights to escape from her own one-sided sadness and Sonic weren't down wit dat. What meaning would life have if it went on forever? Shouldn't everyone have the right to live their life the way they want to even if their time is limited? Why should one person decide everyone's fate?
     
    The fact that Sonic was the first of them to be motivated to violence both speaks of his impulsive, dead-set in his own views nature as well as how strongly he felt about Merlina's actions. And even when his onslaught against her was met with him being swatted-aside like he was a fly, he refused to give up even though Caliburn was bisected and he was being beaten to within an inch of his life.
     
    The Determinator indeed.
     
    Bonus points for how obvious it is that Sonic never expected to be transformed into Excalibur-Sonic given his expression here;
     

     
    It just confirms even more that he was willing to fight to the death if it meant that Merlina couldn't get what she wanted and never expected his own fortitude to effectively save him by inducing the transformation. It's akin to how Sonic never acknowledged that his own fortitude prevented him from succumbing to Dark Gaia's influence in Unleashed - He's literally clueless regarding his own good traits. And that is one of the things that establishes Sonic's character.
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    Green Eyes reacted to Dr. Crusher in Defining moments of your favorite characters.   
    Do not be alarmed. There are other characters who I would like to talk about in this topic. But like Mechano, I'm gonna start with the obvious choice for oneself: Dr. Robotnik. Be prepared however, because chances are, my post is probably going to sound like the exact opposite of what Mechano's post sounded like. Because I'm a prat like that. I'm sorry. I'll give you your money back, I promise.
     
    (Note: Moments like defeating Super Sonic and creating Eggmanland are definitely appreciated by oneself. I just wanted to talk about a few different moments in this topic, that's all.)
     
    "Saving" Sonic in the Underground Zone - Sonic the Hedgehog 2, Master System/Game Gear
    ...And it looks like I'm starting with the same moment that Mechano started with as well, albeit for very different reasons. Because the way I see it, Robotnik only wants to keep Sonic alive so that he can taunt him in regards to what's happening with Tails, especially in the case of the Bad Ending. Is Tails dead? Has something else happened to him? We don't know, but Sonic can't worry about the possibility if he's dead, can he? Robotnik knows better than that. One of the reasons for why I love Robotnik so much is because he looks like your typical Warner Bros. or Hanna-Barbera villain, yet he's much more of a bastard than you think he would be. This event is one of the earliest examples of highlighting this contrast, I feel.
     
    Putting Sonic (and Ray and Mighty) Through Hell - SEGA Sonic the Hedgehog
    He built a whole island for the sole purpose of torturing Sonic. He built a whole island for the sole purpose of torturing Sonic. He built a whole island for the sole purpose of torturing Sonic. No real plans. No powerful gems. Nothing. He just felt like making the hedgehog equivalent of Mouse Trap. And he's rather obviously enjoying himself from start to finish, if his enthusiastic "YAAARGH" screaming is anything to go by. Imagine how much hatred you must have for a person in order to construct an entire landmass dedicated to their perpetual suffering. That's how much Robotnik hates that hedgehog.
     
    Electrocuting Knuckles - Sonic 3 & Knuckles
    I could talk about anything from this game and call it a day, whether it be the forest fires and airship bombardment, or his absolute refusal to give up during the endgame boss fights. But if there's one moment that I really like, it's when the jig is up in regards to his echidna-related deception. Does he make a big speech? Does he taunt Knuckles? No. He casually electrocutes the poor guy and fucks off immediately afterwards. This gives me the impression that Robotnik doesn't really think too much about these sort of things. Or to put it in another way, it cements how Robotnik usually prefers to look at everyone else as objects more than individuals with real emotions and feelings. It's one thing to be all giddy and happy about someone's pain/death/etc. It's another thing entirely when you get no reaction at all. Precious lives have no value whatsoever to him. That's actually kind of frightening, now that I think about it.
     
    Firing the Missile - Sonic Adventure
    So Chaos has presumably been defeated for good. And the Egg Carrier has been destroyed. Most villains would give up at this point. Not Robotnik. Robotnik decides to summon a missile in the hopes of destroying Station Square, because if he can't have it, no one can. And unlike Eggman Nega in Sonic Rivals certain other villains who simply don't think about their own safety, Robotnik definitely knew that there was a high chance that his own life could potentially end should the missile successfully go boom... But he didn't care. All that mattered to him was that everyone paid the price. It's moments like this that make me wonder why Robotnik is usually characterised as a cowardly type in fanfiction, because you can't be that much of a coward when you actively choose to fire a missile at a piece of land that you're still on.
     
    Creating the Intersteller Amusement Park - Sonic Colours
    The Intersteller Amusement Park is one of my favourite settings in not only a Sonic game, but also video games in general. But I think the park's existence in itself is really impressive. As if Eggmanland and Circus Park weren't grand enough, Robotnik decided to make another theme park... in spaaaace. He could have easily just made Tropical Resort (and Terminal Velocity?) and left it at that. But that wasn't enough. He wanted to create more additions. So he did. He successfully conquered three whole planets - one of them being the picturesque home of the adorable Wisps - and remade them to fit his own sinister needs. He also stole a little asteroid belt for himself, because he can do that. And then, for good measure, he decided this would be a good time to whip out another one of his gigantic space fleets, only this one was going disco inferno. Robotnik always thinks big, and this theme park is wonderful proof of that... and this is all without mentioning his actual plan involving said park... A plan that is disturbingly reminiscent of what Black Doom tried to do...
     
    Being the Final Boss - Sonic Colours
    For a long time, Robotnik kept getting screwed over by other antagonists and monsters, and it was really, really, really annoying. Among the list of whippersnappers were Chaos, Dark Gaia, Black Doom, Eggman Nega, Mephiles the Dark, and even Metal Sonic. Metal Sonic. Bah, humbug.
     
    During this time, the man himself had only been the final obstacle in a few handhelds, and even then, the most recent examples were alongside Eggman Nega. So basically, the last time you fought Robotnik alone as the final boss (not counting Sonic 4 Episode 1 and one or two obscure titles) was Sonic Advance 2, a game that came out in 2003. That is far too big of a gap, if you ask me. When it becomes more of a legitimate surprise if your recurring arch-enemy character is the final boss, I think that's a sign that something has gone horribly wrong.
     
    But then, Sonic Colours came along and fixed that at long last. I don't even care about how simplistic the Nega-Wisp Armor fight is, because you know what? Not only did I still really enjoy it in spite of that, but I was just happy to see the doctor being the final enemy once again. And with games like Sonic Generations and Sonic Lost World, I hope the doctor continues to have a good life. He deserves it, after all the shit that happened to him up to this point.
     
    The Time Eater - Sonic Generations
    Speaking of which...
     
    Like Mechano, I was initially concerned about what this "Time Eater" dude was all about, assuming that it was going to be another giant bloody monster. Not out of any real sense of negativity or anything, it was just my eternal paranoia at work. But one day, I spoiled things for myself (don't worry, spoilers have never actually bothered me for some reason) when I stumbled upon an image of Classic Robotnik.
     
    "Ah, great, so Classic Robotnik is in the game after al-"
     
    ...Then I had a closer look at the image, and I noticed he was piloting something. Something that was black and purple.
     
    "No way... is he...?"
     
    Yes. Yes he was. He was piloting the Time Eater.
     
    "But... it's a shame that people will still speak badly about Modern Robotnik. They'll use this as an example of how he's decay-"
     
    ...Then I saw another image. An image that made it painfully clear that Modern Robotnik was also piloting the beast, and... well, I was very happy, to put it lightly. Not just because Robotnik finally got the upper hand against a giant monster, but also because... it's Sonic Generations. Call me a fanboy all you want, but I don't think it would feel right if someone else was the final boss, with or without Robotnik's past history of "No seriously when will I be the goddamn final boss in main console games again."
     
    (By the way, I am aware about the somewhat popular "Time Eater is the remains/a fragment of Mephiles" theory. I don't think about it too much since I know it's probably just a theory and nothing more than that, but either way, I do like the idea of Robotnik turning the tables on Mephileslie in some way...)
     
    Going From Zero to a Different Kind of Zero - Sonic Lost World
    Even before the Deadly Six fought back, Robotnik was already doing rather well for himself, what with having the Cacophonic Conch to ensure that they didn't get any ideas. Indeed, the Deadly Six's rebellion only went through because of something Sonic did, not because of anything Robotnik did. But anyways, the Deadly Six now have control over all of Robotnik's resources. He only has his intelligence to work with (and also Orbot and Cubot, I suppose). And you know what? That's more than enough for him to get by.
     
    So he "teams up" with Sonic and Tails, making it look like all those other times in which a similar setup happened. But it's not really a team up... well, I mean, it is, but it's not like those other ones. This team up is what I like to refer to as a Mega Man 3 team up. Or a Crash Bandicoot 2 team up. Or... something involving trickery, you get the idea. Robotnik isn't content with the good guys fixing things and then leaving it at that. No, this time, Robotnik has a plan. He gets Sonic to do the work for him, letting him defeat the Deadly Six... so that there won't be any Zeti around to take control of his latest (and caped) giant robot when he uses it to kill Sonic. It's a very simple plan, but I would say that it's one of the doctor's best plans, because sometimes, simplicity really is best.
     
    I also like how Robotnik goes out of his way to act as "friendly enemy"-like as possible, such as saving Tails from the Cubot Crabmeat, and even reassuring Sonic about Tails' sacrifice... because it feels like an even bigger punch in the gut when he shows up in his giant robot. With one simple action, it becomes clear that all of that was done purely out of pragmatism, and he doesn't actually care about those pesky animals... Well, that's how I like to see it anyway. (You can't tell me otherwise! Hahahaha!)
     
    Another touch that I enjoy a little too much is how he acts when he shows up at the end. He says the following line:
     
    "Pity about the damage done down there, but there's still enough for me to conquer."
     
    He says the first half of that sentence in the most indifferent tone imaginable. As long as the world still exists in some way, he couldn't care less about what it looks like. Then again, when you look at the likes of the Bad Futures in Sonic CD, perhaps it isn't too surprising, but it can still be a little jarring. While the Deadly Six's intentions with using Robotnik's machine to make Sonic's world disappear outright were grim to be sure, was Robotnik's original goal of slowly sucking the energy away from the Lost Hex that much better? I don't know about you, but while a quick armageddon (or giant monster attack) is horrible in itself, I'd argue that a slow death - and/or a cold, brutal dictatorship - is much worse in the long run.
     
    One last thing. While it's not the most prominent aspect about them, the Deadly Six do seem to genuinely care about each other, if Zavok's respect for Master Zik is anything to go by. I like to look at Robotnik's shameless betrayal - and the aforementioned acts done out of pragmatism and nothing more - as a way of contrasting with that.
     
    He spends the majority of the game in a seemingly helpless position, and yet he still ends up being the final boss. Not that the Deadly Six weren't fun villains in their own right (or at least they were fun to me, hut hut), but like Generations with the Time Eater, it really does feel satisfying to see my favourite antagonist continue his winning streak.
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    Green Eyes reacted to Dr. Mechano in Defining moments of your favorite characters.   
    I have several favorite characters, so I'll dedicate each post in this topic to a different one!
     
    First up, it's Dr. Eggman, the greatest scientific genius of the world!

    "That's what I am!"
     
    Some of Eggman's crowning moments include...
     
    Eggman saves Sonic's life in Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (8-bit)
    "S-Stupid hedgehog! I'm not rescuing you because I like you or anything!"
     
    Eggman has always been a villain with complexity and nuance, and this is demonstrated way back in the Master System/Game Gear version of Sonic 2, where Sonic - hurdling headlong into lava - is rescued by none other than his nemesis. Granted, he's immediately plunked into deathtrap to do battle with Eggman's Ant Lion Mecha, but this moment epitomized one of the doctor's traits: respectful rivalry with his arch-enemy. He wants Sonic to die, sure, but by his hand, not by some stupid accident. And for a game with no dialogue, that's a surprising (but welcome) bit of characterization.
     
    Pretty much every Eggman scene in Sonic Adventure 2
    "Yosh."
     
    Where do I begin? Sonic Adventure 2 could have its own sub-list of awesome moments for Eggman, including, but not limited to...
     
    - Being playable in his own adventure story!
    - Character development! Eggman now has a grandfather, cousin, and something of a backstory!
    - His own menu theme!
    - His own catchy vocal song!
    - Being adorable in the Chao Garden!
     
    To date, this is still my favorite Eggman appearance. It made me the Eggman fan I am today, and it still has a considerable influence on how I see both Eggman and the Sonic franchise at large.
     
    Eggman tells off the Metarax in Sonic X
     
    In this scene, Black Narcissus attempts to corrupt and anger Sonic into dueling with his robot duplicates. Surprisingly, it's Eggman of all people who calms Sonic down, putting his nemesis back in his place. This is made even more awesome when Decoe, Bocoe, and Bokkun - in a surprising bout of competence - completely wreck Black Narcissus when he tries to attack Eggman. Eggman just oozes confidence and smugness in this scene, and clearly - for once - has the moral high ground on everyone.
     
    Some people hate this scene, citing it as the ultimate example of villain decay. But I call it one of the best examples of Eggman's character development on the show.
    El Gran Gordo
    You all knew this was coming.
     
    In the Sonic X comic series, the bizarre saga of El Gran Gordo is one of the most unexpected yet enjoyable focus stories Dr. Eggman has ever starred in. To summarize: Eggman becomes a wrestler to earn money to fund his schemes, cheats to win matches, but then decides he loves being a hero so much that he nearly quits supervillainy altogether to pursue a career as a luchador. He's forced to reveal his identity as Dr. Eggman in order to stop his own rogue robots, and his career is over...
     
    ...or so it seems. Later, he assigns Bokkun to pilot an Eggman suit, while he re-assumes his role as El Gran Gordo, drawn back to the limelight of the ring. In this bout, he's challenged by Andes the Ginormous and - since he no longer uses cheating in his matches - he's forced to defeat him with his own raw strength. Andes knocks the crap out of him, but just as Eggman's about to tap out, he sees his heartbroken fans - including Chris who says "I believe in you..." - which snaps Eggman back into action, causing him to knock out a man twice his size with his bare hands. 
     
    But it's not even over! After this, Eggman and Sonic (El Rapido Azul!) have to team up to defeat the now-power mad Bokkun and reclaim Eggman's base. It's a nonstop adventure with this story, and ultimately ends with Eggman fondoly reminiscing about his role in life, ending with the line: "I do love being an evil genius, but sometimes... it's fun to escape."
     
    Scrambled
    The star of the show! Again!
     
    X comic's Eggman got his own focus story arc, but the main Archie universe's Eggman is no slouch when it comes to stardom either. In "Scrambled," Eggman, Orbot, and Cubot track down a rogue Snively, defeat him in a giant mecha battle, and get into all manner of zany hijinks (including Eggman singing his own theme song as he terrorizes a village). It's nonstop fun, and definitely my favorite arc of Sonic Universe.
     
    Eggman builds Eggman Land
    "Welcome to Eggman Land, the brainchild of my heart and soul!"
     
    Eggman has been talking about building Eggman Land since Sonic Adventure, released in 1998. He finally accomplishes this in Sonic Unleashed, released in 2008. Ten years later. It's quite gratifying seeing him finally achieve one of his lifelong dreams, and appropriately, Eggman Land is one of the hardest, most unforgiving levels in Sonic history. Top it off with the Egg Dragoon, one of Eggman's most memorable mechs, and you've got an amazing testament to Dr. Eggman... even if Dark Gaia did steal his thunder in the end. Of course, that doesn't matter, because...
     
    Eggman is finally the final boss of a 3D Sonic game in Sonic Colors
    "So I'd say it's been nice knowing you... but it hasn't."
     
    From Sonic Adventure all the way to Sonic Unleashed, Eggman was never - not even once - the main villain of a 3D Sonic game. He'd been the final boss of a few handheld 2D games during that time period, sure, but never a full 3D console adventure. From 1998 to 2010 (12 years!), this was the trend; this is what we expected of Eggman - the secondary villain of the game. Sonic Colors came along and changed all of this, which lasted on into Sonic Generations and Sonic Lost World. Eggman was back as a central antagonist in the series, and it was glorious.
     
    Eggmen
    "The only person that smart... was me!"
     
    When I heard that the main foe of Sonic Generations was going to be some "Time Eater," I was disappointed. My disappointment turned to elation when I realized that the man (or men) behind the monster turned out to be classic and modern Dr. Eggman, teaming up across time to destroy their blue nemeses. It was a great conclusion to a celebration of Sonic's history, and I can think of no more appropriate final foe for this monumental game.
     
    This scene from Sonic Lost World
     
    I don't think I need to add anything to this.
     
     
    Next time, I'll be talking about another of my favorite character's defining moments. See you then!
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    Green Eyes got a reaction from Monkey Destruction Switch in Fictional characters you hate/dislike?   
    SatAm, Robotnik, Lyric,Mephiles
    In general, any stereotypically "evil" character who's entire character is "evil" and nothing else, these particular suckers get my ire because they're what I'm familiar with.
    Why do they want to defeat the hero? Evil. Why do they get up in the morning? Evil. They eat evil, they sleep evil. It's boring.
    Sally Acorn and Boom! Amy, again they're an archetype I highly dislike...the StrongFemaleCharacter, hoo boy. Writers will never stop trying to remind you that these characters are female, and can "do things." actual characterisation be damned. Lola Bunny from space Jam can get lost too. (though thankfully she did.)
    That said. Sally Acorn was decent in the first season of SatAm but that's about it.
    With Sally this ended up with her being put on a higher and higher pedastal and this excelled to truly creepy levels when Archie's artists kept drawing her "sexy" and and writers  involved her in melodramatic bullshit involving Sonic's inherent wrongness. To this day I still find it disturbing. Sonic couldn't act without Sally, he was portrayed as stupid and wasn't allowed his own wants,his love of freedom was wrong, how is that not abusive? Maybe it's not neccisarily Sally that saw him as inherently wrong, but justifying Sally having total control over him is creepy either way.
    A part of the issue is relevancy. Tails in main canon occupies most of both Sally and Rotor's original roles, he's the smart guy, foil, tech guy and sane guy(when sometimes needed). Main! Sonic is independent and reasonably intelligent. Sally is pretty much toast.
    I think with the reboot things are being handled OK, I think there's a slight compromise to fit the characters around each other but it's more doable. I still don't find Sally an interesting character, but with Sally being more of an organiser while Tails and Sonic are moreso out in the field makes some sort of sense, what with Sonic and friends being much more of an organisation in this verse.
     
     
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    Green Eyes got a reaction from MightyRay in Season 1 | Sonic Boom: TV Series Discussion   
    I've kind of gone off of Boom. Veiwing the cartoon as a whole, I can't help but feel there's an "attitude" from the writers that makes the whole thing less funny, the jokes alone seem innocuous, but they form a pattern that I dislike. I feel like they're patting themselves on the back for being subversive and I just can't unsee it when I watch it anymore.
    At first I thought Sonic Boom was supposed to more closely resemble a domestic-setting comedy (Ie, centered around characters being at home or going to work or a "slice-of-life" setting) than a hero-villian show, but the show seems to continuously bring this up in jokes along the lines of "It's like our job or something." or other gags that highlight the fact that this is just day-in and day-out for the characters. Is this an established staple of the show or is supposed to be "subversive" when the writers pull something like this? As far as I can tell, this only works if you're aware of the original canon.
    There's also moral messages that feel like they try to be subversive, but miss the point, misunderstand the complicated nature of the issue or seem suspiciously one-sided. For example. Role Models seems suspiciously meta, and I get feeling it's a straw-manning reaction to some criticisms the writers experienced(possibly involving their writing) or at the very least delivering a "complainer is always wrong" message. Holding people to a perfect standard is wrong (and perfect characters can't tell a story), but so is a knee-jerk,fallacious reaction to criticism. If this isn't what they're trying to do then I don't think they delivered their message well.
    There's also Sonic's characterisation, I used to like it but now I don't really know, because I'm seeing an annoying trend.
    He's lazy, he hates "cool" lingo, he lacks enthusiam, he's grumpy, he's a "subversive" Sonic, all in the name of being cool, he's literally a hipster. That's not so bad in-universe, but it's meta. He's subversive to "other Sonic's" and Blue with Envy made it clear that he's better than other Sonic's. Even IF it's only a jab at  Aosth Sonic and nothing else, it still struck me as bad taste, it's hypocrisy. Having him be a lazy, edgy hipster for the sake of being cool (and "better") is no better then him being a hyperactive, extreme dude for the sake of being cool.
    Sonic Boom really needs to stand on it's own merits and stop trying to "subvert" main Sonic or Aosth/SatAM. Taking a good  look at their "social commentary" would help too.
     
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    Green Eyes reacted to E-122-Psi in Fictional characters you hate/dislike?   
    Lein Da is also a butt monkey villain however, so she's hardly glorified in her attitude either.
    The comics unfortunately REEKED of girl power attitude, even when the 90s had long passed. They like developing action girls in a very superficial way, having them super competent and make some loser out of some chauvinistic boy, while still keeping to stereotypes like them being an underdeveloped love interest and making overemphasis on them being a girl who kicks ass. Did I mention they're a girl? And they kick ass?  They rarely get round to putting many genuine foibles into them. Sally's spin off comic was dull since she couldn't hold a story without being Sonic's straight man, while Julie Su, yeah she sorta has flaws like a stroppy temper, but there mostly dumbed down variants of Knuckles'. STC Amy had the same problem, though at least she was mandated to be blandly competent.
    The sad thing is Sally ISN'T always right, Ian has tried to give her flawed moments, but the problem is he sucks at them. She's so empty a character at this point that he can't really latch onto a genuine foible out of it to make for good development. As I mentioned in WANT to love thread, there is some big potential for a good concept out of her initial character (meticulous, by the book foil to spontaneous, chaotic Sonic) but they never exploit that. They always just simplified that aspect to her just being a voice of reason, ie. smarter and more logical where Sonic is misguided and dumb, rather than just having a different, equally fallible direction. Not only is this a bland somewhat insufferable character, but it simplifies and ruins Sonic's in the process.
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    Green Eyes got a reaction from Heckboy in Archie Sonic Main Discussion   
    I kinda like the Archie Sonic series since the reboot, I like the portrayal of Sonic and I'm actually starting to take an interest in the satAM originated characters too. I think Sonic acts a lot like he did before he had a change in direction as Pontac and Graff came in. Ian really messed up a perfectly good chance to adapt Sonic Unleashed though, I was so hyped considering how much the comic had improved and man I'm disappointed.
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    Green Eyes got a reaction from The KKM in Archie Sonic Main Discussion   
    I kinda like the Archie Sonic series since the reboot, I like the portrayal of Sonic and I'm actually starting to take an interest in the satAM originated characters too. I think Sonic acts a lot like he did before he had a change in direction as Pontac and Graff came in. Ian really messed up a perfectly good chance to adapt Sonic Unleashed though, I was so hyped considering how much the comic had improved and man I'm disappointed.
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    Green Eyes reacted to KingScoopaKoopa in ...in which we nitpick and overanalyze every aspect of Sonic's universe.   
    Freaking rings, man. How do they work?
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    Green Eyes got a reaction from AdventChild in Season 1 | Sonic Boom: TV Series Discussion   
    I've kind of gone off of Boom. Veiwing the cartoon as a whole, I can't help but feel there's an "attitude" from the writers that makes the whole thing less funny, the jokes alone seem innocuous, but they form a pattern that I dislike. I feel like they're patting themselves on the back for being subversive and I just can't unsee it when I watch it anymore.
    At first I thought Sonic Boom was supposed to more closely resemble a domestic-setting comedy (Ie, centered around characters being at home or going to work or a "slice-of-life" setting) than a hero-villian show, but the show seems to continuously bring this up in jokes along the lines of "It's like our job or something." or other gags that highlight the fact that this is just day-in and day-out for the characters. Is this an established staple of the show or is supposed to be "subversive" when the writers pull something like this? As far as I can tell, this only works if you're aware of the original canon.
    There's also moral messages that feel like they try to be subversive, but miss the point, misunderstand the complicated nature of the issue or seem suspiciously one-sided. For example. Role Models seems suspiciously meta, and I get feeling it's a straw-manning reaction to some criticisms the writers experienced(possibly involving their writing) or at the very least delivering a "complainer is always wrong" message. Holding people to a perfect standard is wrong (and perfect characters can't tell a story), but so is a knee-jerk,fallacious reaction to criticism. If this isn't what they're trying to do then I don't think they delivered their message well.
    There's also Sonic's characterisation, I used to like it but now I don't really know, because I'm seeing an annoying trend.
    He's lazy, he hates "cool" lingo, he lacks enthusiam, he's grumpy, he's a "subversive" Sonic, all in the name of being cool, he's literally a hipster. That's not so bad in-universe, but it's meta. He's subversive to "other Sonic's" and Blue with Envy made it clear that he's better than other Sonic's. Even IF it's only a jab at  Aosth Sonic and nothing else, it still struck me as bad taste, it's hypocrisy. Having him be a lazy, edgy hipster for the sake of being cool (and "better") is no better then him being a hyperactive, extreme dude for the sake of being cool.
    Sonic Boom really needs to stand on it's own merits and stop trying to "subvert" main Sonic or Aosth/SatAM. Taking a good  look at their "social commentary" would help too.
     
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    Green Eyes got a reaction from Stardust in Season 1 | Sonic Boom: TV Series Discussion   
    I kind of need to watch the show again, but such oddities don't really seem to be limited to specific writers.
    For Amy and Knuckles, I'd argue both "extremes" of their characterization are kind of a part of the problem,the inconsistency exists because both characters are supposed to evoke a stereotype and not much else, Knuckles is dumb, Amy is a A Girl™. That's why Knuckles swings from the "sweet but mentally challenged" schtick to the  "dumbass jock" and Amy swings from being a "bleeding-heart" to the "naggy housewife."
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    Green Eyes got a reaction from UltraGizmo64 in Season 1 | Sonic Boom: TV Series Discussion   
    I've kind of gone off of Boom. Veiwing the cartoon as a whole, I can't help but feel there's an "attitude" from the writers that makes the whole thing less funny, the jokes alone seem innocuous, but they form a pattern that I dislike. I feel like they're patting themselves on the back for being subversive and I just can't unsee it when I watch it anymore.
    At first I thought Sonic Boom was supposed to more closely resemble a domestic-setting comedy (Ie, centered around characters being at home or going to work or a "slice-of-life" setting) than a hero-villian show, but the show seems to continuously bring this up in jokes along the lines of "It's like our job or something." or other gags that highlight the fact that this is just day-in and day-out for the characters. Is this an established staple of the show or is supposed to be "subversive" when the writers pull something like this? As far as I can tell, this only works if you're aware of the original canon.
    There's also moral messages that feel like they try to be subversive, but miss the point, misunderstand the complicated nature of the issue or seem suspiciously one-sided. For example. Role Models seems suspiciously meta, and I get feeling it's a straw-manning reaction to some criticisms the writers experienced(possibly involving their writing) or at the very least delivering a "complainer is always wrong" message. Holding people to a perfect standard is wrong (and perfect characters can't tell a story), but so is a knee-jerk,fallacious reaction to criticism. If this isn't what they're trying to do then I don't think they delivered their message well.
    There's also Sonic's characterisation, I used to like it but now I don't really know, because I'm seeing an annoying trend.
    He's lazy, he hates "cool" lingo, he lacks enthusiam, he's grumpy, he's a "subversive" Sonic, all in the name of being cool, he's literally a hipster. That's not so bad in-universe, but it's meta. He's subversive to "other Sonic's" and Blue with Envy made it clear that he's better than other Sonic's. Even IF it's only a jab at  Aosth Sonic and nothing else, it still struck me as bad taste, it's hypocrisy. Having him be a lazy, edgy hipster for the sake of being cool (and "better") is no better then him being a hyperactive, extreme dude for the sake of being cool.
    Sonic Boom really needs to stand on it's own merits and stop trying to "subvert" main Sonic or Aosth/SatAM. Taking a good  look at their "social commentary" would help too.
     
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    Green Eyes got a reaction from Stardust in Season 1 | Sonic Boom: TV Series Discussion   
    I've kind of gone off of Boom. Veiwing the cartoon as a whole, I can't help but feel there's an "attitude" from the writers that makes the whole thing less funny, the jokes alone seem innocuous, but they form a pattern that I dislike. I feel like they're patting themselves on the back for being subversive and I just can't unsee it when I watch it anymore.
    At first I thought Sonic Boom was supposed to more closely resemble a domestic-setting comedy (Ie, centered around characters being at home or going to work or a "slice-of-life" setting) than a hero-villian show, but the show seems to continuously bring this up in jokes along the lines of "It's like our job or something." or other gags that highlight the fact that this is just day-in and day-out for the characters. Is this an established staple of the show or is supposed to be "subversive" when the writers pull something like this? As far as I can tell, this only works if you're aware of the original canon.
    There's also moral messages that feel like they try to be subversive, but miss the point, misunderstand the complicated nature of the issue or seem suspiciously one-sided. For example. Role Models seems suspiciously meta, and I get feeling it's a straw-manning reaction to some criticisms the writers experienced(possibly involving their writing) or at the very least delivering a "complainer is always wrong" message. Holding people to a perfect standard is wrong (and perfect characters can't tell a story), but so is a knee-jerk,fallacious reaction to criticism. If this isn't what they're trying to do then I don't think they delivered their message well.
    There's also Sonic's characterisation, I used to like it but now I don't really know, because I'm seeing an annoying trend.
    He's lazy, he hates "cool" lingo, he lacks enthusiam, he's grumpy, he's a "subversive" Sonic, all in the name of being cool, he's literally a hipster. That's not so bad in-universe, but it's meta. He's subversive to "other Sonic's" and Blue with Envy made it clear that he's better than other Sonic's. Even IF it's only a jab at  Aosth Sonic and nothing else, it still struck me as bad taste, it's hypocrisy. Having him be a lazy, edgy hipster for the sake of being cool (and "better") is no better then him being a hyperactive, extreme dude for the sake of being cool.
    Sonic Boom really needs to stand on it's own merits and stop trying to "subvert" main Sonic or Aosth/SatAM. Taking a good  look at their "social commentary" would help too.
     
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