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    Scar got a reaction from UltraGizmo64 in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    I pretty much agree with you 100%
    Them going live-action is less MCU, and more Garfield or Smurfs. The film, before its even released will be put in the latter category. Nobody who watches this movie, or takes their kids to see it are ever going to be taking it seriously as a film. They're most likely either going to see it for the memes, or to placate their children for a few hours.
    Maybe the Pixar approach would be a bit too out of date, or indeed force it into the children's movie category, but this live-action movie is going to be seen in the exact same way, except people will be laughing at it. At least with the Pixar approach they can cater to kids, but also attempt to tell a heartfelt or engaging story for the adults present and not instantly mentally check out. The story could even be decent, but people won't be able to take it seriously cause of how ridiculous and alien Sonic looks.
    And ultimately, I would rather a Sonic movie be compared (favourably or otherwise) to a Pixar or Dreamworks movie than the fucking Smurfs. 
    I mean Night of the Werehog being a pretty amazing example of what a Sonic Movie could have been. I also still think Unleashed's approach to human design was and is the best the franchise has ever had. With a little refinement, it would be the style I would choose to go forward with for the forseeable future. I'd have loved to have seen them attempt something like NotW, but with a larger scope/story. 
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    Scar got a reaction from Dr. Detective Mike in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    None of this makes it immune to criticism. You're free to like the design and you're free to want more of this kind of stuff. I am not. Plenty of other people are not. The memes are already circulating the web. People are already laughing at this. But hey, if you like it all the power to you.
    I don't. And I'm not going to stop voicing my tremendous dissatisfaction at this film and the approach. Maybe this movie will be successful like the Fast and Furious or Bayformers. Maybe it will. Success doesn't mean its good though. Plenty of media has been wildly successful, but is still (rightfully) critically panned and even laughed at.
    And you don't need to have made a multi million dollar film franchise to criticise things. I mean what have you achieved in the film industry to give your perspective any greater credence than the rest of us? Simply because you're siding with a studio? Come on man.
    We're not obligated to like this.
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    Scar got a reaction from UltraGizmo64 in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Maybe not more popular than Mickey Mouse. But he sure as hell was more recognisable at some stages in the mid-late 90's. His design was, and remains to this day, one of the most iconic designs in recent history. As Iconic as Mario, or Mickey Mouse or anyone really. If you see the three spiked silhouette, you know what that is. Even people who don't follow gaming these days will see the design and they'll know what it is.
    Ah yes, just how any number of Pixar, or Disney, or Dreamworks movies were laughed out of the theatres. Classics such as, Toy Story, Toy Story 2, Toy Story 3, The Incredibles, The Incredibles 2, Finding Nemo, Moana, Frozen, Tangled or Wreck-it-Ralph (a movie in which Sonic appeared). Yep, those were definitely laughed out of theatres and were commercial disasters. Even if this Sonic movie is a PG-13 action movie, it will be no more serious or dark than the Incredibles when it comes to overall tone. And yet, the Incredibles worked just fine as a fully animated feature length production. In fact, it is probably my favourite Pixar movie to date. The Toy Story movies weren't overly serious, but they were fun enough to keep kids entertained, yet contained enough thematic depth to bring grown fucking adults to tears by the third iteration.

    A Sonic movie does not need to be a Marvel Cinematic Universe competitor. It doesn't need to be a grim, dark and edgy live-action blockbuster to be enjoyable. The story can be serious, but that doesn't mean it has to be live-action with some eldritch abomination character design to try and get it work along side realistic human beings. It can have thematic depth, it can have fun action. All of these things can be done through a feature length animation.

    So no, a cartoon Sonic Movie, would not have been "laughed out of theatres". Such an idea is ludicrous.
    Sonic =/= MCU. That much should be obvious. People are losing their minds because its fucking ugly. Having an "anatomically accurate" body shape doesn't make it a good design. Yes, yes design is subjective, but I'm willing to bet most people who see this, won't think its a good design. 

    In fact, I'm willing to bet that this design will be an internet (maybe even a pop culture) laughing stock. Moreso than any cartoon, or animated Sonic movie would have ever been.
     
    I can't speak for everyone here, but Idon't hate it cause its different. Or because its a change. I hate it because its fucking hideous. I hate it because it will probably become a fucking meme with endless reaction videos on YouTube, when the final design is properly revealed. It will be a joke. 
     
     
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    Scar got a reaction from Mr Silvia in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    SEGA was always the problem. Short-sighted as fuck. The insane production schedule of the PS2/GCN/XB era that culminated in a development environment so toxic that the Franchise's founding fathers all saw fit to leave to regain their spark and love for video game development. Now its the bizarre and pointless attempt at segmenting the franchise; chopping it up into exceedingly disparate pieces while simultaneously clinging to nostalgia of past greatness. And of course, allowing a Live-action movie to be made? Live-Action? 
    That too after we got Night of the Werehog; a lovingly crafted animation which I'm sure left a few people clamouring for a Pixar style animated adventure. But instead of using their own Animation studio to pursue this, they ship it off to fucking Hollywood and allow a goddamn Live-action movie to be made?
    I just don't understand the thought process. Is it just money? Is there nobody thinking about what would happen when the Cash Cow has been milked to death?
     
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    Scar got a reaction from UltraGizmo64 in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    I'll add to this by saying, that editing what is already one of the most iconic Character designs of the late 20th and early 21st centuries with some aggressively hideous homunculus in order to pointlessly shoehorn it into a "realistic setting" is not actually "marketable to a wider audience". We saw that with Sonic Boom already. Sonic's design - even considering the shift from classic to Dreamcast designs -  is about as widely marketable as its ever going to get.
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    Scar got a reaction from UltraGizmo64 in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    That doesn't mean we have to accept it. The design is garbage. It being "its own thing" is nigh-on a meaningless statement or observation. The Sonic the Hedgehog brand despite its major failings in years gone by, is fucking huge. This movie's existence in the form that its currently in, will only harm the already perilously positioned brand. Even if this movie is its own thing. Even if the game's continue to have nothing to do with it.

    Why? Because its easy to take the piss out of the dumbest form of something. And this movie. This character design. This horrific visage of Sonic, will be the new focal point of that derision. In the same way that despite the excellence of the Nolan Batman Movies, Garbage like Batman and Robin are still remembered and laughed at.
    But I guess SEGA is okay with letting this franchise continue to become a greater and greater laughing stock.
    For starters, there was very little chance this movie was ever going to be good. It would have been acceptable frankly, if it was simply forgettable actually. This will now become a meme. A legend to remind people to never take cartoon mascots and try and bring them into the real world. A reminder I thought wasn't necessary after the catastrophic error of judgement the Smurfs movie was. 

    As for the design. Its straight up laughable. A design being cartoony or "Mickey Mouse's Brother in law" has no correlation to whether or not it can "take a punch". Sonic has been able to take hits in media for years just fine. And as for it being "marketable to a wider audience".... Well I'mma need to see some receipts. As I've said, Sonic's design is already iconic. The brand is already one of the most recognisable and marketable in the world. I mean its the reason the franchise hasn't died, despite all the calamitous disasters in its not too distant past. 
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    Scar got a reaction from lbyrd2 in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    No, I cannot. It looks frankly ridiculous.
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    Scar got a reaction from A_W in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    I pretty much agree with you 100%
    Them going live-action is less MCU, and more Garfield or Smurfs. The film, before its even released will be put in the latter category. Nobody who watches this movie, or takes their kids to see it are ever going to be taking it seriously as a film. They're most likely either going to see it for the memes, or to placate their children for a few hours.
    Maybe the Pixar approach would be a bit too out of date, or indeed force it into the children's movie category, but this live-action movie is going to be seen in the exact same way, except people will be laughing at it. At least with the Pixar approach they can cater to kids, but also attempt to tell a heartfelt or engaging story for the adults present and not instantly mentally check out. The story could even be decent, but people won't be able to take it seriously cause of how ridiculous and alien Sonic looks.
    And ultimately, I would rather a Sonic movie be compared (favourably or otherwise) to a Pixar or Dreamworks movie than the fucking Smurfs. 
    I mean Night of the Werehog being a pretty amazing example of what a Sonic Movie could have been. I also still think Unleashed's approach to human design was and is the best the franchise has ever had. With a little refinement, it would be the style I would choose to go forward with for the forseeable future. I'd have loved to have seen them attempt something like NotW, but with a larger scope/story. 
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    Scar got a reaction from UltraGizmo64 in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    None of this makes it immune to criticism. You're free to like the design and you're free to want more of this kind of stuff. I am not. Plenty of other people are not. The memes are already circulating the web. People are already laughing at this. But hey, if you like it all the power to you.
    I don't. And I'm not going to stop voicing my tremendous dissatisfaction at this film and the approach. Maybe this movie will be successful like the Fast and Furious or Bayformers. Maybe it will. Success doesn't mean its good though. Plenty of media has been wildly successful, but is still (rightfully) critically panned and even laughed at.
    And you don't need to have made a multi million dollar film franchise to criticise things. I mean what have you achieved in the film industry to give your perspective any greater credence than the rest of us? Simply because you're siding with a studio? Come on man.
    We're not obligated to like this.
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    Scar got a reaction from A_W in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Maybe not more popular than Mickey Mouse. But he sure as hell was more recognisable at some stages in the mid-late 90's. His design was, and remains to this day, one of the most iconic designs in recent history. As Iconic as Mario, or Mickey Mouse or anyone really. If you see the three spiked silhouette, you know what that is. Even people who don't follow gaming these days will see the design and they'll know what it is.
    Ah yes, just how any number of Pixar, or Disney, or Dreamworks movies were laughed out of the theatres. Classics such as, Toy Story, Toy Story 2, Toy Story 3, The Incredibles, The Incredibles 2, Finding Nemo, Moana, Frozen, Tangled or Wreck-it-Ralph (a movie in which Sonic appeared). Yep, those were definitely laughed out of theatres and were commercial disasters. Even if this Sonic movie is a PG-13 action movie, it will be no more serious or dark than the Incredibles when it comes to overall tone. And yet, the Incredibles worked just fine as a fully animated feature length production. In fact, it is probably my favourite Pixar movie to date. The Toy Story movies weren't overly serious, but they were fun enough to keep kids entertained, yet contained enough thematic depth to bring grown fucking adults to tears by the third iteration.

    A Sonic movie does not need to be a Marvel Cinematic Universe competitor. It doesn't need to be a grim, dark and edgy live-action blockbuster to be enjoyable. The story can be serious, but that doesn't mean it has to be live-action with some eldritch abomination character design to try and get it work along side realistic human beings. It can have thematic depth, it can have fun action. All of these things can be done through a feature length animation.

    So no, a cartoon Sonic Movie, would not have been "laughed out of theatres". Such an idea is ludicrous.
    Sonic =/= MCU. That much should be obvious. People are losing their minds because its fucking ugly. Having an "anatomically accurate" body shape doesn't make it a good design. Yes, yes design is subjective, but I'm willing to bet most people who see this, won't think its a good design. 

    In fact, I'm willing to bet that this design will be an internet (maybe even a pop culture) laughing stock. Moreso than any cartoon, or animated Sonic movie would have ever been.
     
    I can't speak for everyone here, but Idon't hate it cause its different. Or because its a change. I hate it because its fucking hideous. I hate it because it will probably become a fucking meme with endless reaction videos on YouTube, when the final design is properly revealed. It will be a joke. 
     
     
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    Scar got a reaction from A_W in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    That doesn't mean we have to accept it. The design is garbage. It being "its own thing" is nigh-on a meaningless statement or observation. The Sonic the Hedgehog brand despite its major failings in years gone by, is fucking huge. This movie's existence in the form that its currently in, will only harm the already perilously positioned brand. Even if this movie is its own thing. Even if the game's continue to have nothing to do with it.

    Why? Because its easy to take the piss out of the dumbest form of something. And this movie. This character design. This horrific visage of Sonic, will be the new focal point of that derision. In the same way that despite the excellence of the Nolan Batman Movies, Garbage like Batman and Robin are still remembered and laughed at.
    But I guess SEGA is okay with letting this franchise continue to become a greater and greater laughing stock.
    For starters, there was very little chance this movie was ever going to be good. It would have been acceptable frankly, if it was simply forgettable actually. This will now become a meme. A legend to remind people to never take cartoon mascots and try and bring them into the real world. A reminder I thought wasn't necessary after the catastrophic error of judgement the Smurfs movie was. 

    As for the design. Its straight up laughable. A design being cartoony or "Mickey Mouse's Brother in law" has no correlation to whether or not it can "take a punch". Sonic has been able to take hits in media for years just fine. And as for it being "marketable to a wider audience".... Well I'mma need to see some receipts. As I've said, Sonic's design is already iconic. The brand is already one of the most recognisable and marketable in the world. I mean its the reason the franchise hasn't died, despite all the calamitous disasters in its not too distant past. 
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    Scar got a reaction from lbyrd2 in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    I pretty much agree with you 100%
    Them going live-action is less MCU, and more Garfield or Smurfs. The film, before its even released will be put in the latter category. Nobody who watches this movie, or takes their kids to see it are ever going to be taking it seriously as a film. They're most likely either going to see it for the memes, or to placate their children for a few hours.
    Maybe the Pixar approach would be a bit too out of date, or indeed force it into the children's movie category, but this live-action movie is going to be seen in the exact same way, except people will be laughing at it. At least with the Pixar approach they can cater to kids, but also attempt to tell a heartfelt or engaging story for the adults present and not instantly mentally check out. The story could even be decent, but people won't be able to take it seriously cause of how ridiculous and alien Sonic looks.
    And ultimately, I would rather a Sonic movie be compared (favourably or otherwise) to a Pixar or Dreamworks movie than the fucking Smurfs. 
    I mean Night of the Werehog being a pretty amazing example of what a Sonic Movie could have been. I also still think Unleashed's approach to human design was and is the best the franchise has ever had. With a little refinement, it would be the style I would choose to go forward with for the forseeable future. I'd have loved to have seen them attempt something like NotW, but with a larger scope/story. 
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    Scar got a reaction from lbyrd2 in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Maybe not more popular than Mickey Mouse. But he sure as hell was more recognisable at some stages in the mid-late 90's. His design was, and remains to this day, one of the most iconic designs in recent history. As Iconic as Mario, or Mickey Mouse or anyone really. If you see the three spiked silhouette, you know what that is. Even people who don't follow gaming these days will see the design and they'll know what it is.
    Ah yes, just how any number of Pixar, or Disney, or Dreamworks movies were laughed out of the theatres. Classics such as, Toy Story, Toy Story 2, Toy Story 3, The Incredibles, The Incredibles 2, Finding Nemo, Moana, Frozen, Tangled or Wreck-it-Ralph (a movie in which Sonic appeared). Yep, those were definitely laughed out of theatres and were commercial disasters. Even if this Sonic movie is a PG-13 action movie, it will be no more serious or dark than the Incredibles when it comes to overall tone. And yet, the Incredibles worked just fine as a fully animated feature length production. In fact, it is probably my favourite Pixar movie to date. The Toy Story movies weren't overly serious, but they were fun enough to keep kids entertained, yet contained enough thematic depth to bring grown fucking adults to tears by the third iteration.

    A Sonic movie does not need to be a Marvel Cinematic Universe competitor. It doesn't need to be a grim, dark and edgy live-action blockbuster to be enjoyable. The story can be serious, but that doesn't mean it has to be live-action with some eldritch abomination character design to try and get it work along side realistic human beings. It can have thematic depth, it can have fun action. All of these things can be done through a feature length animation.

    So no, a cartoon Sonic Movie, would not have been "laughed out of theatres". Such an idea is ludicrous.
    Sonic =/= MCU. That much should be obvious. People are losing their minds because its fucking ugly. Having an "anatomically accurate" body shape doesn't make it a good design. Yes, yes design is subjective, but I'm willing to bet most people who see this, won't think its a good design. 

    In fact, I'm willing to bet that this design will be an internet (maybe even a pop culture) laughing stock. Moreso than any cartoon, or animated Sonic movie would have ever been.
     
    I can't speak for everyone here, but Idon't hate it cause its different. Or because its a change. I hate it because its fucking hideous. I hate it because it will probably become a fucking meme with endless reaction videos on YouTube, when the final design is properly revealed. It will be a joke. 
     
     
  14. My Emmerdoods
    Scar reacted to Tornado in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Shit doesn't look that bad now, does it?
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    Scar reacted to KHCast in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Also can we stop with this mentality that “cartoon” = “for kids”? Like seriously, most Disney cartoons are pretty relatable for even adults and can contain some very real grounded stories. Being a cartoon shouldn’t diminish your chances at being taken seriously.
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    Scar got a reaction from lbyrd2 in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    That doesn't mean we have to accept it. The design is garbage. It being "its own thing" is nigh-on a meaningless statement or observation. The Sonic the Hedgehog brand despite its major failings in years gone by, is fucking huge. This movie's existence in the form that its currently in, will only harm the already perilously positioned brand. Even if this movie is its own thing. Even if the game's continue to have nothing to do with it.

    Why? Because its easy to take the piss out of the dumbest form of something. And this movie. This character design. This horrific visage of Sonic, will be the new focal point of that derision. In the same way that despite the excellence of the Nolan Batman Movies, Garbage like Batman and Robin are still remembered and laughed at.
    But I guess SEGA is okay with letting this franchise continue to become a greater and greater laughing stock.
    For starters, there was very little chance this movie was ever going to be good. It would have been acceptable frankly, if it was simply forgettable actually. This will now become a meme. A legend to remind people to never take cartoon mascots and try and bring them into the real world. A reminder I thought wasn't necessary after the catastrophic error of judgement the Smurfs movie was. 

    As for the design. Its straight up laughable. A design being cartoony or "Mickey Mouse's Brother in law" has no correlation to whether or not it can "take a punch". Sonic has been able to take hits in media for years just fine. And as for it being "marketable to a wider audience".... Well I'mma need to see some receipts. As I've said, Sonic's design is already iconic. The brand is already one of the most recognisable and marketable in the world. I mean its the reason the franchise hasn't died, despite all the calamitous disasters in its not too distant past. 
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    Scar got a reaction from FFWF in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    I pretty much agree with you 100%
    Them going live-action is less MCU, and more Garfield or Smurfs. The film, before its even released will be put in the latter category. Nobody who watches this movie, or takes their kids to see it are ever going to be taking it seriously as a film. They're most likely either going to see it for the memes, or to placate their children for a few hours.
    Maybe the Pixar approach would be a bit too out of date, or indeed force it into the children's movie category, but this live-action movie is going to be seen in the exact same way, except people will be laughing at it. At least with the Pixar approach they can cater to kids, but also attempt to tell a heartfelt or engaging story for the adults present and not instantly mentally check out. The story could even be decent, but people won't be able to take it seriously cause of how ridiculous and alien Sonic looks.
    And ultimately, I would rather a Sonic movie be compared (favourably or otherwise) to a Pixar or Dreamworks movie than the fucking Smurfs. 
    I mean Night of the Werehog being a pretty amazing example of what a Sonic Movie could have been. I also still think Unleashed's approach to human design was and is the best the franchise has ever had. With a little refinement, it would be the style I would choose to go forward with for the forseeable future. I'd have loved to have seen them attempt something like NotW, but with a larger scope/story. 
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    Scar got a reaction from Blue Blood in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    I pretty much agree with you 100%
    Them going live-action is less MCU, and more Garfield or Smurfs. The film, before its even released will be put in the latter category. Nobody who watches this movie, or takes their kids to see it are ever going to be taking it seriously as a film. They're most likely either going to see it for the memes, or to placate their children for a few hours.
    Maybe the Pixar approach would be a bit too out of date, or indeed force it into the children's movie category, but this live-action movie is going to be seen in the exact same way, except people will be laughing at it. At least with the Pixar approach they can cater to kids, but also attempt to tell a heartfelt or engaging story for the adults present and not instantly mentally check out. The story could even be decent, but people won't be able to take it seriously cause of how ridiculous and alien Sonic looks.
    And ultimately, I would rather a Sonic movie be compared (favourably or otherwise) to a Pixar or Dreamworks movie than the fucking Smurfs. 
    I mean Night of the Werehog being a pretty amazing example of what a Sonic Movie could have been. I also still think Unleashed's approach to human design was and is the best the franchise has ever had. With a little refinement, it would be the style I would choose to go forward with for the forseeable future. I'd have loved to have seen them attempt something like NotW, but with a larger scope/story. 
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    Scar got a reaction from Lord-Dreamerz in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    I pretty much agree with you 100%
    Them going live-action is less MCU, and more Garfield or Smurfs. The film, before its even released will be put in the latter category. Nobody who watches this movie, or takes their kids to see it are ever going to be taking it seriously as a film. They're most likely either going to see it for the memes, or to placate their children for a few hours.
    Maybe the Pixar approach would be a bit too out of date, or indeed force it into the children's movie category, but this live-action movie is going to be seen in the exact same way, except people will be laughing at it. At least with the Pixar approach they can cater to kids, but also attempt to tell a heartfelt or engaging story for the adults present and not instantly mentally check out. The story could even be decent, but people won't be able to take it seriously cause of how ridiculous and alien Sonic looks.
    And ultimately, I would rather a Sonic movie be compared (favourably or otherwise) to a Pixar or Dreamworks movie than the fucking Smurfs. 
    I mean Night of the Werehog being a pretty amazing example of what a Sonic Movie could have been. I also still think Unleashed's approach to human design was and is the best the franchise has ever had. With a little refinement, it would be the style I would choose to go forward with for the forseeable future. I'd have loved to have seen them attempt something like NotW, but with a larger scope/story. 
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    Scar reacted to Blue Blood in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    I really, really agree with this. Humans and realism have never been a key part of the brand. They've just existed from time to time and never in the forefront. The one time it was really pushed was in '06, and long before the game was out we had any inclination as to how bad the game was going to be, the humans and realism specifically drew a lot of ire. SA1 before it with its anime humans or Unleashed after it with its Pixar world were met with the exact same criticism. What this movie is getting so horribly wrong is that it's not creating a world around Sonic or the Sonic brand and it's instead just trying to inject Sonic into the real world. From what admittedly little we know so far, the angle they've decided to take is simply one that's almost impossible to make work. 
    Sonic has always walked this nebulous and ever-changing changing line of being cool and relevant. What's big in cinema right now? Super heroes and live action adaptations. A straight-up animated film reminiscent of Pixar could struggle to distance itself from being seen as a purely young children's film with the fact that Sonic is an already-existing brand; it would probably be a bit too out of date. But in avoiding that they've just gone full-circle, making something that's uncanny and unfamiliar. Going live-action should never have been the answer for "how do we bring Sonic to the silver screen to reach as wide an audience as possible?". The series already has an art- and design-style that could be adapted and re-do led to serve a different image of they didn't want to embrace the look of the games over the past decade. The world should always be build around Sonic. If you're building Sonic around the world, like this movie is (or like '06 did), it will only end badly.
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    Scar got a reaction from A_W in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    None of this makes it immune to criticism. You're free to like the design and you're free to want more of this kind of stuff. I am not. Plenty of other people are not. The memes are already circulating the web. People are already laughing at this. But hey, if you like it all the power to you.
    I don't. And I'm not going to stop voicing my tremendous dissatisfaction at this film and the approach. Maybe this movie will be successful like the Fast and Furious or Bayformers. Maybe it will. Success doesn't mean its good though. Plenty of media has been wildly successful, but is still (rightfully) critically panned and even laughed at.
    And you don't need to have made a multi million dollar film franchise to criticise things. I mean what have you achieved in the film industry to give your perspective any greater credence than the rest of us? Simply because you're siding with a studio? Come on man.
    We're not obligated to like this.
  22. My Emmerdoods
    Scar reacted to GuyWithThePie in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Based on the beady eye, here's my prediction. (Yeah it looks bad, but I'm on a phone right now)

  23. My Emmerdoods
    Scar reacted to TheOcelot in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    It's finally happening:
    "Sonic Werehog The Movie" 😆

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    Scar got a reaction from FFWF in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    Maybe not more popular than Mickey Mouse. But he sure as hell was more recognisable at some stages in the mid-late 90's. His design was, and remains to this day, one of the most iconic designs in recent history. As Iconic as Mario, or Mickey Mouse or anyone really. If you see the three spiked silhouette, you know what that is. Even people who don't follow gaming these days will see the design and they'll know what it is.
    Ah yes, just how any number of Pixar, or Disney, or Dreamworks movies were laughed out of the theatres. Classics such as, Toy Story, Toy Story 2, Toy Story 3, The Incredibles, The Incredibles 2, Finding Nemo, Moana, Frozen, Tangled or Wreck-it-Ralph (a movie in which Sonic appeared). Yep, those were definitely laughed out of theatres and were commercial disasters. Even if this Sonic movie is a PG-13 action movie, it will be no more serious or dark than the Incredibles when it comes to overall tone. And yet, the Incredibles worked just fine as a fully animated feature length production. In fact, it is probably my favourite Pixar movie to date. The Toy Story movies weren't overly serious, but they were fun enough to keep kids entertained, yet contained enough thematic depth to bring grown fucking adults to tears by the third iteration.

    A Sonic movie does not need to be a Marvel Cinematic Universe competitor. It doesn't need to be a grim, dark and edgy live-action blockbuster to be enjoyable. The story can be serious, but that doesn't mean it has to be live-action with some eldritch abomination character design to try and get it work along side realistic human beings. It can have thematic depth, it can have fun action. All of these things can be done through a feature length animation.

    So no, a cartoon Sonic Movie, would not have been "laughed out of theatres". Such an idea is ludicrous.
    Sonic =/= MCU. That much should be obvious. People are losing their minds because its fucking ugly. Having an "anatomically accurate" body shape doesn't make it a good design. Yes, yes design is subjective, but I'm willing to bet most people who see this, won't think its a good design. 

    In fact, I'm willing to bet that this design will be an internet (maybe even a pop culture) laughing stock. Moreso than any cartoon, or animated Sonic movie would have ever been.
     
    I can't speak for everyone here, but Idon't hate it cause its different. Or because its a change. I hate it because its fucking hideous. I hate it because it will probably become a fucking meme with endless reaction videos on YouTube, when the final design is properly revealed. It will be a joke. 
     
     
  25. Absolutely
    Scar got a reaction from Dr. Detective Mike in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Trailer 2 on Page 482)   
    SEGA was always the problem. Short-sighted as fuck. The insane production schedule of the PS2/GCN/XB era that culminated in a development environment so toxic that the Franchise's founding fathers all saw fit to leave to regain their spark and love for video game development. Now its the bizarre and pointless attempt at segmenting the franchise; chopping it up into exceedingly disparate pieces while simultaneously clinging to nostalgia of past greatness. And of course, allowing a Live-action movie to be made? Live-Action? 
    That too after we got Night of the Werehog; a lovingly crafted animation which I'm sure left a few people clamouring for a Pixar style animated adventure. But instead of using their own Animation studio to pursue this, they ship it off to fucking Hollywood and allow a goddamn Live-action movie to be made?
    I just don't understand the thought process. Is it just money? Is there nobody thinking about what would happen when the Cash Cow has been milked to death?
     
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