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    Tara got a reaction from Ryannumber1gamer in Shantae and the Seven Sirens (Apple Arcade, now out on PC/NSW/PS4/ONE)   
    The idea of an upgrade that increases the speed of base game functions has literally been a thing since the NES days if not sooner.  Why would this particular instance be something made specifically for speedrunners?  The fact that you don't "need" it doesn't mean that they don't think you will miss it if you don't have it or that it's not the optimal way to play otherwise.  That's the whole point of making the game's upgrades based in a store system.  Even if it's not fully realized as well as it ought to be, it's point is for you to evaluate your options and weigh your priorities.  It doesn't really work out that way, since the in-game economy isn't so rigid that you'd have to spend more than an hour or so grinding before you're able to afford basically everything in the store anyway.  But the idea that it's something that was made specifically with speedrunners in mind and not because they saw the base transformation speed was kind of sluggish and thought "people might actually want this feature" is a bit of a logical leap.
    Even though I don't necessarily agree with them, I am perfectly fine with people who think that the transformations are not as seamless as they otherwise could be.  Pirate's Curse didn't "spoil" them, it showed that better game design was in fact possible.  It essentially highlights the weakpoints of the system, just like the lack of Spin Dash in original Sonic 1 or Tails' in ability to fly in original Sonic 2 are all the more noticeable now that we've had 20+ years of games that rectify this and subsequent ports of said games that have also mended the issue.  Surely, it's not the worst aspect of the series, and I don't think anyone is suggesting that it makes the games terrible, but that there are certainly ways of improving it that would make the flow of the gameplay much more palatable and less clunky.
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    Tara got a reaction from Syntax Speedway in "The world will betray you Shadow"   
    I also don't think it's really fair to say that Shadow was ultimately responsible for Infinite's creation.  At least, if we look at it from the perspective of a skeptical audience and not an audience who just accepts whatever tone the narrative wants us to accept.  I'm sure the writing team would love for us to think "Yeah, see, this is actually Shadow's fault, so that really shows what an antihero Shadow is and what a complex character Infinite is!" even though I doubt they even thought that far ahead themselves.  To any rational witness, Infinite's transformation would easily be seen as a severe overreaction.  Like, that's largely the reason the "I'M NOT WEAK!!!" moment is so often lampooned upon.  That and it being so ham-fisted and melodramatic that it almost makes Full House seem like a shocking exposé of the plight of the American working class.
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    Tara got a reaction from Blacklightning in "The world will betray you Shadow"   
    At first, I thought maybe you were trying to liken Shadow's fandom to, say, the way gay men often gravitate towards Disney villains in spite of the fact that they are offensive stereotypes, which is something I'm not only okay with, but support.  Namely because those people also wouldn't deny that they are personalized attachments and are completely self aware that any relation to the characters is an extrapolation of the text, not what is deliberately put into it.  But no, the argument you're making is even worse.
    Under this same logic, you must also take umbrage with people who criticize...
    Bright Crash Rent Powerpuff Girls 2016 My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, season 8 The Lorax 2013 Pretty much any live action Disney remake in the past ten years. Modern Simpsons episodes Family Guy ...which all either directly or indirectly attempt to tackle serious issues but are notoriously panned for doing it in an asinine manner that ranges anywhere from well meaning but misguided to actually invoking the issues they're attempting to disassemble, because I'm sure there are people who will say that they relate to all these works and sincerely believe that they helped them through a difficult time in their lives.  And they're free to do so.  But I'm also free to criticize their reading and interpretation, and while I've never met any Shadow fans who see him as relatable as it pertains to their experiences as a minority, I'm sure most would be inclined to agree because that's how media discussion works.  Particularly when you take issue with a statement like "that comparison is a bit of a stretch" which is not only... quite mild, I have to say, like I legitimately don't think I could have worded it any nicer if I donated a brand new car to every single person who read it... but also silly when most people would agree that a comparison is flimsy when the initial statement is justified in things that literally never happened in the actual games to begin with as an explanation for why the examination of Shadow's relationship with humans is not only a good plot point worth repeating but also an important one socially.
    Or as a counter example, I love Steven Universe.  It's not even like my favorite cartoon or anything, but I've definitely shed a few tears over episodes that have hit far too close to home, and so I have a lot of treasured memories for this show.  And I will cling to those characters and stories because they mean a lot to me.  At the same time, there are also people that have had similar if not identical experiences to me that think the way the show handles it is cheap, artificial, bad lip service, and may find my interpretation of it to be a disservice to the actual issue, that my relation to it is based on questionable premises.  And while I think I'm in a huge majority of people who may disagree with those people, they are ABSOLUTELY in their right to say that.  I do not take offense to that.  In fact, my views on the show have shifted because of those dissenting views.  Not in the sense that I no longer like the show because I still love it today, so much as "oh, that is an issue I can empathize with" or "yeah, you know maybe the show could have handled this better."
    People can like Shadow, if they can use him to relate to their personal struggles as they desire.  That's great.  I encourage that as long as it's done in a healthy and positive manner.  But to say that I or anyone else can not criticize it or find it lacking in actual merit is frankly ridiculous and is not conductive to a good faith discussion on the merits of a story.  Like, this whole conversation could have just ended with "well, Shadow means this to me, it's okay if you don't see it that way."
    With all that said, this thread was not meant for sociopolitical debate, and I feel like we've allowed it to weigh this topic down long enough.  So I kindly suggest we move on, so that people who actually want to enjoy what this thread was actually intended for can continue to do so.  That and I'm not really interested in discussing this any further.
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    Tara got a reaction from Syntax Speedway in "The world will betray you Shadow"   
    At first, I thought maybe you were trying to liken Shadow's fandom to, say, the way gay men often gravitate towards Disney villains in spite of the fact that they are offensive stereotypes, which is something I'm not only okay with, but support.  Namely because those people also wouldn't deny that they are personalized attachments and are completely self aware that any relation to the characters is an extrapolation of the text, not what is deliberately put into it.  But no, the argument you're making is even worse.
    Under this same logic, you must also take umbrage with people who criticize...
    Bright Crash Rent Powerpuff Girls 2016 My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, season 8 The Lorax 2013 Pretty much any live action Disney remake in the past ten years. Modern Simpsons episodes Family Guy ...which all either directly or indirectly attempt to tackle serious issues but are notoriously panned for doing it in an asinine manner that ranges anywhere from well meaning but misguided to actually invoking the issues they're attempting to disassemble, because I'm sure there are people who will say that they relate to all these works and sincerely believe that they helped them through a difficult time in their lives.  And they're free to do so.  But I'm also free to criticize their reading and interpretation, and while I've never met any Shadow fans who see him as relatable as it pertains to their experiences as a minority, I'm sure most would be inclined to agree because that's how media discussion works.  Particularly when you take issue with a statement like "that comparison is a bit of a stretch" which is not only... quite mild, I have to say, like I legitimately don't think I could have worded it any nicer if I donated a brand new car to every single person who read it... but also silly when most people would agree that a comparison is flimsy when the initial statement is justified in things that literally never happened in the actual games to begin with as an explanation for why the examination of Shadow's relationship with humans is not only a good plot point worth repeating but also an important one socially.
    Or as a counter example, I love Steven Universe.  It's not even like my favorite cartoon or anything, but I've definitely shed a few tears over episodes that have hit far too close to home, and so I have a lot of treasured memories for this show.  And I will cling to those characters and stories because they mean a lot to me.  At the same time, there are also people that have had similar if not identical experiences to me that think the way the show handles it is cheap, artificial, bad lip service, and may find my interpretation of it to be a disservice to the actual issue, that my relation to it is based on questionable premises.  And while I think I'm in a huge majority of people who may disagree with those people, they are ABSOLUTELY in their right to say that.  I do not take offense to that.  In fact, my views on the show have shifted because of those dissenting views.  Not in the sense that I no longer like the show because I still love it today, so much as "oh, that is an issue I can empathize with" or "yeah, you know maybe the show could have handled this better."
    People can like Shadow, if they can use him to relate to their personal struggles as they desire.  That's great.  I encourage that as long as it's done in a healthy and positive manner.  But to say that I or anyone else can not criticize it or find it lacking in actual merit is frankly ridiculous and is not conductive to a good faith discussion on the merits of a story.  Like, this whole conversation could have just ended with "well, Shadow means this to me, it's okay if you don't see it that way."
    With all that said, this thread was not meant for sociopolitical debate, and I feel like we've allowed it to weigh this topic down long enough.  So I kindly suggest we move on, so that people who actually want to enjoy what this thread was actually intended for can continue to do so.  That and I'm not really interested in discussing this any further.
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    Tara got a reaction from Sean in "The world will betray you Shadow"   
    At first, I thought maybe you were trying to liken Shadow's fandom to, say, the way gay men often gravitate towards Disney villains in spite of the fact that they are offensive stereotypes, which is something I'm not only okay with, but support.  Namely because those people also wouldn't deny that they are personalized attachments and are completely self aware that any relation to the characters is an extrapolation of the text, not what is deliberately put into it.  But no, the argument you're making is even worse.
    Under this same logic, you must also take umbrage with people who criticize...
    Bright Crash Rent Powerpuff Girls 2016 My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, season 8 The Lorax 2013 Pretty much any live action Disney remake in the past ten years. Modern Simpsons episodes Family Guy ...which all either directly or indirectly attempt to tackle serious issues but are notoriously panned for doing it in an asinine manner that ranges anywhere from well meaning but misguided to actually invoking the issues they're attempting to disassemble, because I'm sure there are people who will say that they relate to all these works and sincerely believe that they helped them through a difficult time in their lives.  And they're free to do so.  But I'm also free to criticize their reading and interpretation, and while I've never met any Shadow fans who see him as relatable as it pertains to their experiences as a minority, I'm sure most would be inclined to agree because that's how media discussion works.  Particularly when you take issue with a statement like "that comparison is a bit of a stretch" which is not only... quite mild, I have to say, like I legitimately don't think I could have worded it any nicer if I donated a brand new car to every single person who read it... but also silly when most people would agree that a comparison is flimsy when the initial statement is justified in things that literally never happened in the actual games to begin with as an explanation for why the examination of Shadow's relationship with humans is not only a good plot point worth repeating but also an important one socially.
    Or as a counter example, I love Steven Universe.  It's not even like my favorite cartoon or anything, but I've definitely shed a few tears over episodes that have hit far too close to home, and so I have a lot of treasured memories for this show.  And I will cling to those characters and stories because they mean a lot to me.  At the same time, there are also people that have had similar if not identical experiences to me that think the way the show handles it is cheap, artificial, bad lip service, and may find my interpretation of it to be a disservice to the actual issue, that my relation to it is based on questionable premises.  And while I think I'm in a huge majority of people who may disagree with those people, they are ABSOLUTELY in their right to say that.  I do not take offense to that.  In fact, my views on the show have shifted because of those dissenting views.  Not in the sense that I no longer like the show because I still love it today, so much as "oh, that is an issue I can empathize with" or "yeah, you know maybe the show could have handled this better."
    People can like Shadow, if they can use him to relate to their personal struggles as they desire.  That's great.  I encourage that as long as it's done in a healthy and positive manner.  But to say that I or anyone else can not criticize it or find it lacking in actual merit is frankly ridiculous and is not conductive to a good faith discussion on the merits of a story.  Like, this whole conversation could have just ended with "well, Shadow means this to me, it's okay if you don't see it that way."
    With all that said, this thread was not meant for sociopolitical debate, and I feel like we've allowed it to weigh this topic down long enough.  So I kindly suggest we move on, so that people who actually want to enjoy what this thread was actually intended for can continue to do so.  That and I'm not really interested in discussing this any further.
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    Tara got a reaction from Tornado in "The world will betray you Shadow"   
    At first, I thought maybe you were trying to liken Shadow's fandom to, say, the way gay men often gravitate towards Disney villains in spite of the fact that they are offensive stereotypes, which is something I'm not only okay with, but support.  Namely because those people also wouldn't deny that they are personalized attachments and are completely self aware that any relation to the characters is an extrapolation of the text, not what is deliberately put into it.  But no, the argument you're making is even worse.
    Under this same logic, you must also take umbrage with people who criticize...
    Bright Crash Rent Powerpuff Girls 2016 My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, season 8 The Lorax 2013 Pretty much any live action Disney remake in the past ten years. Modern Simpsons episodes Family Guy ...which all either directly or indirectly attempt to tackle serious issues but are notoriously panned for doing it in an asinine manner that ranges anywhere from well meaning but misguided to actually invoking the issues they're attempting to disassemble, because I'm sure there are people who will say that they relate to all these works and sincerely believe that they helped them through a difficult time in their lives.  And they're free to do so.  But I'm also free to criticize their reading and interpretation, and while I've never met any Shadow fans who see him as relatable as it pertains to their experiences as a minority, I'm sure most would be inclined to agree because that's how media discussion works.  Particularly when you take issue with a statement like "that comparison is a bit of a stretch" which is not only... quite mild, I have to say, like I legitimately don't think I could have worded it any nicer if I donated a brand new car to every single person who read it... but also silly when most people would agree that a comparison is flimsy when the initial statement is justified in things that literally never happened in the actual games to begin with as an explanation for why the examination of Shadow's relationship with humans is not only a good plot point worth repeating but also an important one socially.
    Or as a counter example, I love Steven Universe.  It's not even like my favorite cartoon or anything, but I've definitely shed a few tears over episodes that have hit far too close to home, and so I have a lot of treasured memories for this show.  And I will cling to those characters and stories because they mean a lot to me.  At the same time, there are also people that have had similar if not identical experiences to me that think the way the show handles it is cheap, artificial, bad lip service, and may find my interpretation of it to be a disservice to the actual issue, that my relation to it is based on questionable premises.  And while I think I'm in a huge majority of people who may disagree with those people, they are ABSOLUTELY in their right to say that.  I do not take offense to that.  In fact, my views on the show have shifted because of those dissenting views.  Not in the sense that I no longer like the show because I still love it today, so much as "oh, that is an issue I can empathize with" or "yeah, you know maybe the show could have handled this better."
    People can like Shadow, if they can use him to relate to their personal struggles as they desire.  That's great.  I encourage that as long as it's done in a healthy and positive manner.  But to say that I or anyone else can not criticize it or find it lacking in actual merit is frankly ridiculous and is not conductive to a good faith discussion on the merits of a story.  Like, this whole conversation could have just ended with "well, Shadow means this to me, it's okay if you don't see it that way."
    With all that said, this thread was not meant for sociopolitical debate, and I feel like we've allowed it to weigh this topic down long enough.  So I kindly suggest we move on, so that people who actually want to enjoy what this thread was actually intended for can continue to do so.  That and I'm not really interested in discussing this any further.
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    Tara got a reaction from Zaysho in "The world will betray you Shadow"   
    At first, I thought maybe you were trying to liken Shadow's fandom to, say, the way gay men often gravitate towards Disney villains in spite of the fact that they are offensive stereotypes, which is something I'm not only okay with, but support.  Namely because those people also wouldn't deny that they are personalized attachments and are completely self aware that any relation to the characters is an extrapolation of the text, not what is deliberately put into it.  But no, the argument you're making is even worse.
    Under this same logic, you must also take umbrage with people who criticize...
    Bright Crash Rent Powerpuff Girls 2016 My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, season 8 The Lorax 2013 Pretty much any live action Disney remake in the past ten years. Modern Simpsons episodes Family Guy ...which all either directly or indirectly attempt to tackle serious issues but are notoriously panned for doing it in an asinine manner that ranges anywhere from well meaning but misguided to actually invoking the issues they're attempting to disassemble, because I'm sure there are people who will say that they relate to all these works and sincerely believe that they helped them through a difficult time in their lives.  And they're free to do so.  But I'm also free to criticize their reading and interpretation, and while I've never met any Shadow fans who see him as relatable as it pertains to their experiences as a minority, I'm sure most would be inclined to agree because that's how media discussion works.  Particularly when you take issue with a statement like "that comparison is a bit of a stretch" which is not only... quite mild, I have to say, like I legitimately don't think I could have worded it any nicer if I donated a brand new car to every single person who read it... but also silly when most people would agree that a comparison is flimsy when the initial statement is justified in things that literally never happened in the actual games to begin with as an explanation for why the examination of Shadow's relationship with humans is not only a good plot point worth repeating but also an important one socially.
    Or as a counter example, I love Steven Universe.  It's not even like my favorite cartoon or anything, but I've definitely shed a few tears over episodes that have hit far too close to home, and so I have a lot of treasured memories for this show.  And I will cling to those characters and stories because they mean a lot to me.  At the same time, there are also people that have had similar if not identical experiences to me that think the way the show handles it is cheap, artificial, bad lip service, and may find my interpretation of it to be a disservice to the actual issue, that my relation to it is based on questionable premises.  And while I think I'm in a huge majority of people who may disagree with those people, they are ABSOLUTELY in their right to say that.  I do not take offense to that.  In fact, my views on the show have shifted because of those dissenting views.  Not in the sense that I no longer like the show because I still love it today, so much as "oh, that is an issue I can empathize with" or "yeah, you know maybe the show could have handled this better."
    People can like Shadow, if they can use him to relate to their personal struggles as they desire.  That's great.  I encourage that as long as it's done in a healthy and positive manner.  But to say that I or anyone else can not criticize it or find it lacking in actual merit is frankly ridiculous and is not conductive to a good faith discussion on the merits of a story.  Like, this whole conversation could have just ended with "well, Shadow means this to me, it's okay if you don't see it that way."
    With all that said, this thread was not meant for sociopolitical debate, and I feel like we've allowed it to weigh this topic down long enough.  So I kindly suggest we move on, so that people who actually want to enjoy what this thread was actually intended for can continue to do so.  That and I'm not really interested in discussing this any further.
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    Tara got a reaction from Celestia in "The world will betray you Shadow"   
    At first, I thought maybe you were trying to liken Shadow's fandom to, say, the way gay men often gravitate towards Disney villains in spite of the fact that they are offensive stereotypes, which is something I'm not only okay with, but support.  Namely because those people also wouldn't deny that they are personalized attachments and are completely self aware that any relation to the characters is an extrapolation of the text, not what is deliberately put into it.  But no, the argument you're making is even worse.
    Under this same logic, you must also take umbrage with people who criticize...
    Bright Crash Rent Powerpuff Girls 2016 My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, season 8 The Lorax 2013 Pretty much any live action Disney remake in the past ten years. Modern Simpsons episodes Family Guy ...which all either directly or indirectly attempt to tackle serious issues but are notoriously panned for doing it in an asinine manner that ranges anywhere from well meaning but misguided to actually invoking the issues they're attempting to disassemble, because I'm sure there are people who will say that they relate to all these works and sincerely believe that they helped them through a difficult time in their lives.  And they're free to do so.  But I'm also free to criticize their reading and interpretation, and while I've never met any Shadow fans who see him as relatable as it pertains to their experiences as a minority, I'm sure most would be inclined to agree because that's how media discussion works.  Particularly when you take issue with a statement like "that comparison is a bit of a stretch" which is not only... quite mild, I have to say, like I legitimately don't think I could have worded it any nicer if I donated a brand new car to every single person who read it... but also silly when most people would agree that a comparison is flimsy when the initial statement is justified in things that literally never happened in the actual games to begin with as an explanation for why the examination of Shadow's relationship with humans is not only a good plot point worth repeating but also an important one socially.
    Or as a counter example, I love Steven Universe.  It's not even like my favorite cartoon or anything, but I've definitely shed a few tears over episodes that have hit far too close to home, and so I have a lot of treasured memories for this show.  And I will cling to those characters and stories because they mean a lot to me.  At the same time, there are also people that have had similar if not identical experiences to me that think the way the show handles it is cheap, artificial, bad lip service, and may find my interpretation of it to be a disservice to the actual issue, that my relation to it is based on questionable premises.  And while I think I'm in a huge majority of people who may disagree with those people, they are ABSOLUTELY in their right to say that.  I do not take offense to that.  In fact, my views on the show have shifted because of those dissenting views.  Not in the sense that I no longer like the show because I still love it today, so much as "oh, that is an issue I can empathize with" or "yeah, you know maybe the show could have handled this better."
    People can like Shadow, if they can use him to relate to their personal struggles as they desire.  That's great.  I encourage that as long as it's done in a healthy and positive manner.  But to say that I or anyone else can not criticize it or find it lacking in actual merit is frankly ridiculous and is not conductive to a good faith discussion on the merits of a story.  Like, this whole conversation could have just ended with "well, Shadow means this to me, it's okay if you don't see it that way."
    With all that said, this thread was not meant for sociopolitical debate, and I feel like we've allowed it to weigh this topic down long enough.  So I kindly suggest we move on, so that people who actually want to enjoy what this thread was actually intended for can continue to do so.  That and I'm not really interested in discussing this any further.
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    Tara reacted to Monkey Destruction Switch in The DC animated universe.   
    I didn't grow up with the DCAU, but I've been watching it lately, so I decided to dig up this ancient thread to talk about it.
    Since I'm a big Superman fan, I've watched all of Superman: The Animated Series a while ago. I have been watching Batman: The Animated Series for a while, but INSANELY slowly (I think I'm saving it because I don't want to run out of it...which might be wise because I felt so deflated when I finished Static Shock, lol). I finished Static Shock a bit ago and recently sort-of finished Justice League (I skipped a few episodes of the first season because I felt like it and I don't like the first season much), and am somewhat slowly watching Justice League Unlimited.
    So my thoughts on what I've watched so far.
    Batman: The Animated Series
    I don't want to say too much for now because again, I haven't finished it. I'll just say that there's a lot about this series that blows me away, such as the aesthetics in general being really beautiful, great characterizations, and sometimes being really deep. That said, I do feel like in the first season, episodes were sometimes a teeny bit boring, but in the 2nd season, I feel like they're more consistently entertaining so far. Also, Robin appears more, which to me, is a very good thing. That might be a hot take, IDK. Overall, this seems like the best show of the DCAU so far (and I kinda doubt any show has a chance at dethroning it). It's not perfect, but there's a lot about it which is pretty amazing and it certainly deserves its reputation.
    The New Batman Adventures
    I have only watched a couple random episodes of this (actually, now that I think about it, I might have literally seen one, I don't remember), so I'm not going to give many opinions at all. All I want to say is that the new redesigns and style (which sadly were used for the rest of the DCAU) is a massive step-down from B:TAS. Even if they wanted a more simplified style, there's really no reason they had to go this far. That doesn't reflect the overall quality of the show, which I can't comment on at this point; it's just a complaint I have.
    Superman: The Animated Series
    I consider this a good, solid show, but not amazing. Maybe that sounds weird coming from a Superman fan, but actually, I've observed that in general, Superman fans have a lower opinion of this show than the general public. But whenever I try to explain why I find this show underwhelming, it takes too long to explain, so I won't try. I'll just say that I don't consider it particularly inspired or to have much of a vision for Superman. It's just a competent take on the character. At times, it does touch greatness and even excellence, but overall I just don't think it's all that great. I'm going to say that overall, it's the worst DCAU show I've seen so far, but that's not much of an insult.
    Static Shock
    I really love Static Shock. It's just a lovable show. Lots of fun and humor and endearing characters, not to mention a lot of heart and an amazing ability to tackle really serious issues despite generally feeling like a somewhat "kiddier" show than the rest of the DCAU. It faltered a bit in Seasons 3 & 4, but despite that, it rivals B:TAS as my personal favorite DCAU show.
    Something awesome is that in the first Batman crossover this show has, they inexplicably bring back the original B:TAS designs. Yay!
    Justice League
    I need to be clear that my opinions of Season 1 and Season 2 are VERY different. I honestly think Season 1 is really bad. Not a fan of it at all. It just feels very hollow and shallow, like it's not aspiring to be anything more than just another Saturday morning cartoon to provide some entertainment to the kids. Especially compared to the rest of the DCAU, this is very disappointing. On top of that, they illogically give Superman a redesign to make him look older, even though I'm pretty sure Batman should be older than him or at least comparable in age (based on the fact that Batman became a superhero before Superman in this continuity), and make him even more of a jobber than he was in S:TAS. If the entire show was like Season 1, it would beat out S:TAS for my least favorite DCAU show by a huge margin. Season 1 does have its good moments, mind you, but overall I am certainly not a fan.
    Thankfully, Season 2 is excellent, almost incomparably superior to the previous one. I don't like it quite as much as Static Shock or B:TAS, but it's still very good. It has great characters and interesting stories. My favorite episodes are probably Only a Dream, Maid of Honor, A Better World, and especially the finale, Starcrossed.
    The thing about this show is that the episodes are almost always big battles against supervillains or other fairly typical superhero plots, which somewhat weakens this show in my mind since I prefer more variety in plotlines, some of which are more focused on the protagonists' personal lives or the like. There's not quite as much "room" for that in this show.
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    I have quite a while to go before I make it through the DCAU, but so far it's been a great ride. I'll post more thoughts later.
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    Tara reacted to Monkey Destruction Switch in Sonic YouTube Videos in Danger -- Important Update!   
    Ugh. What a rotten situation all around. I am STRONGLY in support of ending those creepy mass-produced "children's channels", but there's got to be a better way of doing that.
    You do know some parents buy games for their kids, right?
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    Tara got a reaction from Nova in So are Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations not considered good games now?   
    As I've said before, I quite like Unleashed/Colors/Generations.  I mean, I even liked Sonic Lost World, and you can't even mention that game on this board without people calling for your head.  So I certainly don't think there's anything wrong with preferring the modern games.  They are without a doubt more friendly to play and some of the later sections of Unleashed notwithstanding, a lot less frustrating.  But I don't really feel like the capture the fluidity and style of the 2D games.
    I certainly agree that many things from classic Sonic can't be directly translated into 3D, as can be said for virtually any series that started out that way.  Mario for example is a lot more open and has a much more versatile move set in 3D, for instance, because running and jumping on Goombas doesn't work incredibly well in 3D as a main mechanic.  But I don't feel like the boost games necessarily do that.  To me, they are endemic of a wider problem with many games simplifying their core elements by removing pivotal features, taking control away from the player, and/or relying on QTE's to fill the void where interesting mechanics could otherwise exist.
    But honestly, I think the wider gaming community would probably disagree with me on this.  Core fan sites like this probably have more mixed and varied opinions on the matter, but I think the wider audience finds Colors and Gens to be genuine steps in the right direction, with some people saying that Gens is the first time Sonic has ever been good in 3D.  I think the question should be less "are Colors and Gens considered bad games now" and more "has the good will that Sega earned from Colors and Gens worn off" which is also contestable, but is more a question on how Sega's later games reflect on the perception of their previously released titles, rather than on the quality of the games themselves.
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    Tara got a reaction from Nova in So are Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations not considered good games now?   
    Sorry if it came across that way, but I was actually referring to this post.
    I'm not going to argue which game has quantitatively more automation, but I know that Colors and Gens FEEL more automated in that there are virtually no ways to sequence break or explore areas at your own leisure due to the boxed in nature of the game as well as a physics engine that actively discourages anything but predetermined routes and obstacle courses.  SA1 and 2 definitely had ways that Sega obviously preferred you to play, along with more than a few set pieces where you were forced to play by Sega's rules.  But that's the ENTIRE GAME with Colors and Gens.
    Perhaps I should rephrase "design problems" to mean "design ideas that generally make the game weaker from a personal perspective."  Colors and Gens are well made for what they are, but what they are isn't necessarily what a lot of fans want.
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    Tara got a reaction from isCasted in So are Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations not considered good games now?   
    I also think "Sonic should stick to 2D games" is a bit of a stretch of reasoning, when "all the 3D games are either bad or haven't aged well" is the sole reason and fails to address why many of them haven't aged well.  Sonic Adventure was released in an era where getting 3D controls half-way right was practically a miracle on its own, but these days many of its innovations are not only commonplace but heavily improved upon.  But much of its level design, gameplay designs, and core concepts hold up extremely well today.  There's nothing conceptually wrong with SA1, at least in regards to Sonic's stages.  Maybe not so much the others, particularly Big.  I'm not a huge fan of SA2 these days, but I'd argue the same is true for it.  There's nothing terribly wrong with the game itself; it just needs more polish.
    Fast forward to Colors and Generations and while they are seen as notably better than the games that were being hailed as the worst just a few years prior, there are core design problems with the game that can't really be fixed without completely reworking the game.  The narrow corridor format, the linear level layouts, the reliance on automation and 2D segments.  Even as much as I personally enjoy these games, there's no doubt that there's a multitude of things that would make them much better experiences.
    If we're saying "Sonic should stick to 2D games" because we can't trust Sega to deliver a competent 3D game, then... yeah, I guess.  But that's different from "Sonic works best in 2D" or "Sonic only works in 3D" by concept alone.
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    Tara reacted to With Me in So are Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations not considered good games now?   
    In general the fact that the vast majority of 2D Sonic games, regardless of developer, are average at best is ignored whenever this discussion is brought up. Chaotix, the Game Gear titles, Advance and 4 hold up worse under scrutiny than the 3D games do, but they resemble the classic games on a surface level so they're given a pass that the 3D games will never receive despite having way less excuse for error. 
    The classic games aren't good because they're 2d games. They're not good because of the way they look and sound or any other surface level elements. They're good because someone put work into cracking a gameplay loop that felt great. Everything else was in service of that. 
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    Tara got a reaction from With Me in So are Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations not considered good games now?   
    You had precedents but they still weren't necessarily the norm.  For every Mario 64, you also had Zelda, which also had stifling control and camera issues, or Tomb Raider which was infamous at the time for having the worst camera controls ever despite being a much loved game series, or, like, don't get me wrong.  I love Spyro.  But I don't love how it controls.  It's one of those rare examples of a game where every other aspect of the game makes up for the fact that it controls like a broken car.  Those are just the ones that I can think of off the top of my head that were well received in spite of noted criticisms towards the way they controlled.
    Regardless, my point wasn't even that the way Sonic controls was a legendary advancement that rewrote the rules on how we control characters in three-dimensional space, but that it wasn't even extremely uncommon for games to control like that or worse at the time, and that ignoring the awkward controls and dated graphics, the actual design and concept of SA1 still hold up, even if its execution does not.  Saying the series doesn't work in 3D because the first 3D outing in the series (if you exclude 3D Blast, which isn't what most people think of when they think of 3D Sonic games anyway) hasn't aged well, and then citing the subsequent examples which have been noted ever since they were released how they failed to properly (if at all) follow up on the formula as proof for why Sonic simply doesn't work in 3D just comes across as a bit daft in my opinion.  Especially when we now have multiple fan projects which, while not perfect due to the nature of the medium, demonstrate otherwise.
    I can understand preferring Sonic in 2D and not liking controlling Sonic in a 3D space.  I don't blame anyone who overall prefers the 2D games because they have been the most consistently well polished games in the series or because it's simply how they prefer the series.  But I don't think that the failures of Sonic's 3D outings invalidate it any more than Mega Man X7 being a game that is a complete mess for reasons completely independent of its genre is a demonstration of why Mega Man couldn't work in 3D.
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    Tara got a reaction from Indigo Rush in So are Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations not considered good games now?   
    You had precedents but they still weren't necessarily the norm.  For every Mario 64, you also had Zelda, which also had stifling control and camera issues, or Tomb Raider which was infamous at the time for having the worst camera controls ever despite being a much loved game series, or, like, don't get me wrong.  I love Spyro.  But I don't love how it controls.  It's one of those rare examples of a game where every other aspect of the game makes up for the fact that it controls like a broken car.  Those are just the ones that I can think of off the top of my head that were well received in spite of noted criticisms towards the way they controlled.
    Regardless, my point wasn't even that the way Sonic controls was a legendary advancement that rewrote the rules on how we control characters in three-dimensional space, but that it wasn't even extremely uncommon for games to control like that or worse at the time, and that ignoring the awkward controls and dated graphics, the actual design and concept of SA1 still hold up, even if its execution does not.  Saying the series doesn't work in 3D because the first 3D outing in the series (if you exclude 3D Blast, which isn't what most people think of when they think of 3D Sonic games anyway) hasn't aged well, and then citing the subsequent examples which have been noted ever since they were released how they failed to properly (if at all) follow up on the formula as proof for why Sonic simply doesn't work in 3D just comes across as a bit daft in my opinion.  Especially when we now have multiple fan projects which, while not perfect due to the nature of the medium, demonstrate otherwise.
    I can understand preferring Sonic in 2D and not liking controlling Sonic in a 3D space.  I don't blame anyone who overall prefers the 2D games because they have been the most consistently well polished games in the series or because it's simply how they prefer the series.  But I don't think that the failures of Sonic's 3D outings invalidate it any more than Mega Man X7 being a game that is a complete mess for reasons completely independent of its genre is a demonstration of why Mega Man couldn't work in 3D.
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    Tara got a reaction from Monkey Destruction Switch in So are Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations not considered good games now?   
    I quite like both Colors and Generations.  They're not the best games ever made or even the best Sonic games ever made, but they're fun games.  I don't mind the shift in tonality to lighthearted stories, and I generally quite like the aesthetic of the two games.
    But even at the time, I always felt that they were sort of like Sega giving us the bare minimum in order to achieve a satisfactory review score.  Colors specifically feels like they took out all the controversial aspects of Unleashed, but didn't do much to actually improve upon its strong points.  And it continues to annoy me that moving in four cardinal directions like a normal game is still a chore.  And the way the game is compact to the point where it demands that you play it the way Sega wants you to play it and only that way is something that I've given up all hope that Sega will ever improve upon.
    I don't hate the stories for Colors and Gens, since I'd rather have a simple story that's well contained than a complex one that's riddled with problems, but I do understand the frustration some people feel when plot points and introduced and then dropped often within the same cutscene, and especially if it's not your idea of what Sonic should be, I'm fine with people having that opinion, too.  I don't even mind the immature writing too much, but I understand it's not exactly compelling drama.
    Basically, I'm saying, I like them.  They're not BAD games, but still rather flawed.
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    Tara got a reaction from neezTHEhuman in So are Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations not considered good games now?   
    I quite like both Colors and Generations.  They're not the best games ever made or even the best Sonic games ever made, but they're fun games.  I don't mind the shift in tonality to lighthearted stories, and I generally quite like the aesthetic of the two games.
    But even at the time, I always felt that they were sort of like Sega giving us the bare minimum in order to achieve a satisfactory review score.  Colors specifically feels like they took out all the controversial aspects of Unleashed, but didn't do much to actually improve upon its strong points.  And it continues to annoy me that moving in four cardinal directions like a normal game is still a chore.  And the way the game is compact to the point where it demands that you play it the way Sega wants you to play it and only that way is something that I've given up all hope that Sega will ever improve upon.
    I don't hate the stories for Colors and Gens, since I'd rather have a simple story that's well contained than a complex one that's riddled with problems, but I do understand the frustration some people feel when plot points and introduced and then dropped often within the same cutscene, and especially if it's not your idea of what Sonic should be, I'm fine with people having that opinion, too.  I don't even mind the immature writing too much, but I understand it's not exactly compelling drama.
    Basically, I'm saying, I like them.  They're not BAD games, but still rather flawed.
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    Tara got a reaction from Kuzu in So are Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations not considered good games now?   
    I quite like both Colors and Generations.  They're not the best games ever made or even the best Sonic games ever made, but they're fun games.  I don't mind the shift in tonality to lighthearted stories, and I generally quite like the aesthetic of the two games.
    But even at the time, I always felt that they were sort of like Sega giving us the bare minimum in order to achieve a satisfactory review score.  Colors specifically feels like they took out all the controversial aspects of Unleashed, but didn't do much to actually improve upon its strong points.  And it continues to annoy me that moving in four cardinal directions like a normal game is still a chore.  And the way the game is compact to the point where it demands that you play it the way Sega wants you to play it and only that way is something that I've given up all hope that Sega will ever improve upon.
    I don't hate the stories for Colors and Gens, since I'd rather have a simple story that's well contained than a complex one that's riddled with problems, but I do understand the frustration some people feel when plot points and introduced and then dropped often within the same cutscene, and especially if it's not your idea of what Sonic should be, I'm fine with people having that opinion, too.  I don't even mind the immature writing too much, but I understand it's not exactly compelling drama.
    Basically, I'm saying, I like them.  They're not BAD games, but still rather flawed.
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