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  1. No, that concept was specifically removed by the end. The "animal" literally is just meant to be "wooden doll", it's like asking what animal an Eggrobo or Cubot is. You see remnants of the early mouse concept in stuff like the tail, but it's not meant to be a wooden mouse in any way. Just wooden doll.
  2. "What animal is Belle supposed to be? I assumed she was either a dog or a generic kritter, but she has a specific tail as well." A wooden doll. Not a specific animal, just a wooden doll. Earlier in concept she was more based on a mouse, but that's been removed since. Check Evan's tumblr, she talks about this stuff sometimes
  3. The difference is, Nite and Don, like Starline, Whisper, etc, were created to be recurring comic characters outright- they were pitched to Sega, sketches sent in, Sega gave feedback on the designs, etc etc etc. Lanolin was a random background character ABT drew without approval (since obviously Sega doesn't do approval for every single background design) who he then named on twitter and kept drawing, and other artists kept drawing her too. Nite and Don are actual, official, characters, Lanolin is basically a recurring fancharacter that's lucky that the people drawing her can sneak her into official products. Hence, if they tried to actually pitch a Lanolin story, Sega might outright say no, or they might have to effectively reboot her since now Sega will have a say on the design, characterisation, etc to make her an actual official character.
  4. Ah, sorry, since you wrote Dawn instead of Don I didn't realise it was the rooster character lol Yeah no those two are meant to be recurring from the start and got approved by Sega and so on, yes
  5. Lanolin isn't a character, not sure Ron or Dawn are either, I don't remember who those are. What I mean by this is they're not Sega-approved, they're not anything, they're just recurring background designs that keep being slipped by. The authors then going to twitter and saying "this is the character and their name and so on" doesn't make them an official character, and thus that means something like an actual Lanolin story is a hurdle. It's not impossible, but basically they'll have to bring the idea to sega, meaning reintroducing the character, potential design changes, etc etc.
  6. Most of you are overthinking this. Ages are irrelevant in Sonic. They just serve to say "this character is older than that one", the specific number doesn't matter. Rouge didn't use an alias because of her age, and I thought the issue made that pretty obvious- it's because she didn't want to immediately blare out WORLD FAMOUS THIEF ROUGE THE BAT IS HERE by using her own name. Tails is 8 but isn't treated as a child any more than Amy or most anyone else for it. Amy, for that matter, is 12, which is pretty much just as much as a child, but like everyone else that isn't used as an element of her character. Cream is a child not because she's 6, but because her character is child. Her archetype is "sweet naïve polite young child". She's specifically designed to be a young child, act like one, and look like one. If you don't look at gameplay specifically, her motivation in her intro game is literally "I want my mommy", her motivation in her second game is "I want my poor pet", and after that she mostly serves as a secondary character to go "Miss Amy, please be more polite" because she's a prim and proper polite young child. In Sonic X her role by and large is entirely "the polite child who leans back from the action because she's a child". The only exception to any of this is Battle, where every character had their motivations heightened in order to justify the constant fighting. I see people here all the time decry Amy in Battle as exaggerated, why wouldn't Cream be too? I mean, come on guys. They literally gave her a mother. The only character to have a mother. Because they're meant to make a pair of mother and child. Charmy's also 6 and doesn't have a mother, no questions are raised about him, because his role is brat, not polite and proper innocent child. You may disagree with her being used like this, but the motivation is pretty obvious and clear, and has been so since 2003.
  7. Surely the video was trying to convey an idea and thus can be criticised? I feel if anything, the guy who likes the character enough he shoved her in multiple of the actual games probably isn't coming from a bad faith position when arguing why he feels Sally often doesn't work, and thus the repeated bad faith responses are a bit surreal. Mine's just "keep her out keep her out keep her out keep her fans out keep anything from that branch out go go go gone go away out out out", a bit less nuanced, but just one post. Apparently preferrable.
  8. stats as of today for SAGE this year:

    77 indies
    123 fangames
    18 mods
    4 frameworks

    222 entries

    1. Polkadi~☆


      hot damn

      i'll have a lot of games to play here

  9. Being a fighting game, EVERYONE's hyper-aggressive in it. Faulting the characters for it feels to me a bit like faulting characters in a racing game for wanting to solve everything with racing. EDIT: Really, these arguments are really sort of bizarre to me because it feels like everyone's coming from an alien world with alien versions of these games where context doesn't exist. Like, she didn't corner Sonic to make her marry him in SA2, she bantered a bit before rescuing him regardless. She wanted to beat him in Heroes, but as it turns out cutscenes exist to facilitate gameplay and EVERYONE wanted to beat everyone so we could have those bossfights. Yet it feels it's only with Amy that people insist in not taking things like that in context, ignoring stuff like Espio wanting to steal Cheese instead of asking "is that your Chao, little girl, because we're rescuing Chao and if you just found that one that might be one of the Chao we're rescuing" but making sure every single little exaggerated-for-gameplay Amy moment or comedic short-tempered moment sticks around and is never forgotten, overshadowing everything else she was doing. And now here's the result. She's been turned into Minnie Mouse but responsible. She spends Lost World just going "oh me oh my", she spends Forces and IDW doing leadership stuff, she's made into the bossy almost-"Karen" of the group in Sonic Boom for laughs. As usual, Sega overcorrecting things, and then patting themselves for it (you seen that Sega guy say how proud they were of how Amy now isn't a damsel in distress? Despite her not having been so for like 20 years?). But I can't help but be frustrated because their overcorrections are addressing complaints that by and large shouldn't exist in the first place. Hope we can eventually get a fun energetic optimistic lovable Amy back.
  10. do tss writers get paid for writing or something

    why're you putting stupid clickbait like "hur hur movie sonic best design ever" on the site

    you're not kotaku

    1. Polkadi~☆


      i can confirm that they don’t get paid

      it’s hip to imply your opinions are objective fact, y’know

    2. JezMM




      Opinion Pieces are things and TSS has had plenty in the past.


      I mean it's definitely clickbaity but opinion pieces, if they differ from the common opinion, are kind of bound to come off that way automatically.  And I mean the title does say "might be", it could've well said "is" if they really wanted to go full clickbait.

    3. Polkadi~☆


      I mean, at least The Spin articles gave me the idea it was an opinion piece, and I could approach them with an open mind. This article rubbed me a little wrong, though.

    4. Sean


      It's his opinion and he's entitled to it but it's poorly-argued and sloppily written. I felt embarrassed reading it.

    5. Tornado


      And I mean the title does say "might be", it could've well said "is" if they really wanted to go full clickbait.


    6. JezMM


      Full disclaimer I didn't read the article because they lost me with the entire premise, but it seemed obvious that it was an opinion piece and not for me so I just like... moved on lol

      (I will say only the writer knows whether they did it for the sake of writing a provocative article or whether they truly love the design more than any others, so if it's the former, shame shame shame and I withdraw my defense lol)

    7. Ferno


      The main thing that kinda irked me was when they said game sonic's gloves were huge when tbh its just his hands in general that really are just that big, along with his feet

    8. Sean


      It's ultimately a lot of made-up complaints about the game design (ex. getting bothered over Sonic's shoes never getting dirtied in the games, you might as well complain that the toys in Toy Story aren't covered in grime, peeled paint, and fingerprints for 95% of the film) and making an easy target out of the old movie design, neither of which correlate with how that makes the Hesse design the best one.

    9. Blue Blood

      Blue Blood

      I fully disagree with the article, but getting your knickers in a twist because you think it's being presented as fact instead of an opinion piece is really dumb.

    10. Wraith


      how did you guys even find the strength to read past the title

    11. Monkey Destruction Switch

      Monkey Destruction Switch

      Maybe this is dumb, but honestly I would prefer if they just put "Opinion:" at the start of the title. I know it's obviously opinion, but it would slightly soften the blow of the article being what it is, at least for me.

    12. Indigo Rush

      Indigo Rush


      No, we don't get paid.

      Yes, it's an attention-grabbing headline.

      It's also probably his actual opinion, so (to those who are being mean about it) please simmer down. I don't even agree with him, but it's been labeled as such, and he's entitled to it. 

    13. Indigo Rush

      Indigo Rush

      The writing staff is entirely voluntary. We do not get compensated for writing baity headlines or anything, so I just wanted to put that idea to rest. 

      If we did, things could get pretty messy. 

    14. Blue Blood

      Blue Blood

      @Monkey Destruction Switch Yeah, no. It's a subjective matter. Putting "opinion" in the headline to offset whatever disagreement you might have is unnecessary. Soften what blow, exactly? 

    15. Wraith


      it's nothing personal against the writer so many personalities in this fanbase are just hot take machines so when i see more of that brain just shuts off

    16. Tornado


      It would certainly offset the blow of the atrocious title.

  11. hey guys, dunno if you're checking SAGE this year, but if you do, hope you try and enjoy the Sondro Gomez demo we did!

  12. While there can be a point made that the references for reference's sake aren't adding anything beyond "I clapped when I saw thing" and aren't funny for kids who won't get it, they're not really the intended audience here. Nor, probably, is a lot of this forum tbh. This is very clearly a bunch of people who were kids and hardcore into the Sonic fandom online circa 2002, the Archie stuff, etc, and are taking the chance to just rave endlessly about it. Hence AoSTH references, Sonic Adventure references, a cover from the Death Egg minisseries from Archie, etc. It's Ian JQ and friends reminiscing about when they'd go and draw Shadow on dA in 2002 while wondering if the Shadow in the screenshots for Sonic Heroes is real or not and wondering when Knuckles will stop being green in the comics while posting on Penders' forums and making fancomics on Team Artail.
  13. gotta say it feels grand to stop by after a few years and see people realise what I was saying years ago when saying the freedom fighters format and evil eggman writing was unsustainable for the book
  14. I can get people wanting Eggman to win and whatever What I don't understand is why want this now It's a zombie story Eggman pretty specifically has to lose unless you want year 3 to be 12 issues of zombots going "uuugh" endlessly In this specific story Eggman very obviously has to lose and I'm not sure how this isn't pretty clear
  15. You get what I mean though EDIT: Harder to tell due to the quality and also the fact it's sketchy kid drawing, but that pink apartment building next to the Tails house might be meant to be the pink building Amy lives in in Battle, too
  16. Yes, but neither game had Tails' Tails-shaped House like Battle did- and check what's in that Central City drawing
  17. That map's already got more lore than visible at first- pretty sure "Central City" there means Sonic Battle.

    1. Tracker_TD


      This is the only Sonic Movie fanart so far to make me think "yeah I want this" 

    2. Berry Xmas

      Berry Xmas

      I doubt that robots will even be in the movie at this point.

    3. Osmium


      The movie design would be really cool (if a bit more stylized) in my eyes if it was meant to be in some really nightmarish awful universe where stuff like the above illustration happened all the time. 

  19. (isn't there a SAGE thread?)

    1. The Deleter

      The Deleter

      Yeah, right here:


    2. The KKM

      The KKM

      ace, want to see if there was anything posted on kyle and lucy

    3. Your Vest Friend

      Your Vest Friend

      Even if there isn't, there's no harm in pimping up your own work. Azoo's already done it with that Sonic Isle.

  20. at the risk of ruining a streak of jokes since the last few pages show what people'd think are jokes being taken as seriously as possible so there's an excuse to be unhappy, the blob feet are an art style. common in both 1920s cartoons and old cartoony anime. they're not literal blob feet, they're depicted with as many toes as needed- normally that's none, but if wearing a slipper, then one toe, etc.
  21. I can get not liking it, but the setup of the two worlds is really not confusing or inconsistent. Hell, Sonic X has taught you how it works for over a decade now, just the games' version has it be easier to go between worlds. There's a human world, and a cartoon animals world. It's not timelines, it's different planets/dimensions, just like Blaze's world. And there's a Modern Sonic timeline, and since Generations, a Classic Sonic timeline.
  22. There's not enough jobs to confirm literally everyone already. Four pencillers, one per issue, plus a colourist and a writer, and the guy who made the first teasers. That's what's been confirmed. Maybe issue five is Skelly, maybe not.
  23. She has a punching tail bruv she'd just stick it on the shotgun like bugs bunny and you'd get blasted, bad tactic
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