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    Tracker_TD reacted to With Me in What If Tails Had Died In Sonic 2 GG   
    ASSUMING that Sonic 2 game gear's bad ending was supposed to depict Tails meeting an untimely, unspecified death, how would Sonic's life be different?

    It turns out Sonic 2's placement is quite dubious in comparison to Sonic 2, so we're going to humor multiple scenarios.

    TIMELINE ONE: EGGMAN WINS

    Sonic chases Eggman to Angel Island and manages to tail him just fine aside from a mild inconvenience in Marble Garden. He hops aboard the Death Egg when it launches, turns super and beats the fuck out of the mad doctor in space to the legendary anthem that is that one song from SMBZ.

    But there's one small problem. Who's going to catch him and the master emerald now?

    That's right, fucking nobody. Sonic falls into the ocean and drowns. The master Emerald is lost forever after Knuckles tries to go and get it without his trusty air necklace and also drowns. EGGMAN WINS.


    TIMELINE TWO: EGGMAN WI-wait what?

    ASSUMING that Tails was still alive for Sonic 3 but perished after, Sonic would go to the totally tubular station square to fight chaos. He would never get aboard the Egg Carrier and it would destroy the city unless Knuckles  still does the dumb shit that causes to crash, leaving only Eggman with the means to escape. Eggman has three different means of destroying the City and Tails is responsible for thwarting two of them. EGGMAN WINS.



    Even if Sonic were to stop chaos on his own somehow, every other event in the series is now significantly harder if not impossible if Tails isn't present. 

    Sonic Adventure 2? Tails wouldn't be around to cover for Amy OR track Eggman to the desert to get the space ship. Sonic sits on earth picking his nose and daydreaming about Shadow before Eggman fires the canon.

    Sonic Heroes? What's The Real Super Power of Teamwork without Tails to bridge the gap between Sonic and Knuckles's personalities? The Tangible Average Power of Begrudging Acquaintances? 

    Shadow the Hedgehog? Who else would rob Eggman's circus and shatter his long term prospects as a live entertainer?

    Sonic 06? Who would do this stupid shit? Whatever he's doing. I didn't play this game.



    Sonic Generations? Who would have told me I was travelling in time and space? I sure as shit wouldn't have guessed that. 

    Face it, Tails is THE most important character in the entire series, and he deserves to be respected and protected for the good of the earth Sonic's World  Sonic's WorldS. He's like if that Elise Iblis thing was like, all the time. 

    Discuss a world without Tails and how terrible that would be below.
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from Polkadi~☆ in How is IDW an improvement over Forces?   
    Then you've missed the point of Tails' character, not the writers. Forces may have gone too far in making Tails look like a wuss, but he's not some shonen action hero. He's the brains of the operation; Sonic's the reckless action star, and Knuckles is the brute force.
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from SBR2 in How is IDW an improvement over Forces?   
    His friend is dead and the world’s about to end there. I think there’s a bit of a difference.
    That, and it’s at the very end of the game, after he’s already fought the Iblis monsters alongside Sonic and co for an entire game. The Unleashed thing happens at the very start, as an introduction to the Gaia brute monsters. 
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from caitash in How is IDW an improvement over Forces?   
    So you did miss the point of Tails. Sorted!
    Then someone's being a little too assumptive. It's possible to find things to appreciate in a given thing without a black or white outlook of "it's perfect" or "it's the worst thing ever". Anyone who's been here longer than five minutes knows Dio is the last person who'd call anything Forces does 'perfect'.
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from Nestor in How is IDW an improvement over Forces?   
    So you did miss the point of Tails. Sorted!
    Then someone's being a little too assumptive. It's possible to find things to appreciate in a given thing without a black or white outlook of "it's perfect" or "it's the worst thing ever". Anyone who's been here longer than five minutes knows Dio is the last person who'd call anything Forces does 'perfect'.
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    Tracker_TD reacted to Diogenes in How is IDW an improvement over Forces?   
    Nope. I like SA Tails learning to be a little more independent and to do things in his own way rather than just following and copying Sonic. I like how that carried into SA2 with him using his mechanical genius to build his own battle mech (narratively, anyway, the gameplay sucked ass). But I also like Forces Tails being genuinely broken up over Sonic's defeat and possible death, struggling and mostly failing to keep his shit together as the world fell apart around him...right up until Classic Sonic appeared and they dropped that plotline entirely, because Forces is also a very badly written game.
    I don't want Tails to be useless, but I also don't want him to be invincible. I want to see him struggle with, and eventually overcome, things that are more meaningful than just stronger bad guys. While it completely failed to follow through on it, what Forces had started setting up was one of the most interesting things they had ever done with Tails, and I'd much rather see them try to do things like that than just "yes he can fight the robots/monsters/demons, just like everyone else, the end".
    I mean in Forces he basically doesn't have one, but I assume you meant '06? Short version is that ShtH left him basically aimless as a character, throwing away his past and leaving him just a grumpy hero, and '06 failed to do anything to advance him beyond that. Mephy's whole "humanity will betray you" gamble rings entirely hollow when the previous game had him make peace with the only organization/person we know of who had a reason to hate him and the world's already accepted other superpowered talking animals as beloved heroes, not to mention it's just "bad things will happen in the future (that we will never actually see)!" And people praise his relationship with Rouge and Omega, but...he honestly barely even seems to care, he just frowns and glares his way through every scene. It's not that I expect him to be all "oh golly gee I love friendship!", but for how much people praise it over future appearances you'd think there was some kind of actual bonding between them.
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from prowerboy26 in How is IDW an improvement over Forces?   
    Then you've missed the point of Tails' character, not the writers. Forces may have gone too far in making Tails look like a wuss, but he's not some shonen action hero. He's the brains of the operation; Sonic's the reckless action star, and Knuckles is the brute force.
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from SBR2 in How is IDW an improvement over Forces?   
    Tails is supposed to be a genius above all else. Hence he's smart enough to realise fighting a Zombot and getting infected isn't a good idea in the long-run. He's never been about brawn above all else, that's more Knuckles' thing; if there's a better way out than fighting, he'll probably take it.
     
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from prowerboy26 in How is IDW an improvement over Forces?   
    The Zombot arc is certainly dark, but I don't find it's as dramatic as even something like Maria's death in SA2; it's essentially just a different take on robotization, not actually killing the characters in question. It is dramatic, but that comes from the more realistic ways in which the characters have reacted to the crisis. 
    As for Tails... well, of course he'd flee from the Zombots. Everyone has to except Sonic, and the only reason he can afford to hold them off is that he's already infected. Fighting the Zombots pretty much means getting infected by the Zombots, which Shadow already learned the hard way. There's a time to play hero, and in Tails' case the more important thing was just making it out alive, given he was the brains of the operation to fight it. The earlier issues already showed Tails teaming up with Sonic to actually lay the smackdown, so it's not about Tails being a coward; it's about Tails knowing that this is a lot more serious than the usual Eggman robot situation. 
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from SBR2 in How is IDW an improvement over Forces?   
    The Zombot arc is certainly dark, but I don't find it's as dramatic as even something like Maria's death in SA2; it's essentially just a different take on robotization, not actually killing the characters in question. It is dramatic, but that comes from the more realistic ways in which the characters have reacted to the crisis. 
    As for Tails... well, of course he'd flee from the Zombots. Everyone has to except Sonic, and the only reason he can afford to hold them off is that he's already infected. Fighting the Zombots pretty much means getting infected by the Zombots, which Shadow already learned the hard way. There's a time to play hero, and in Tails' case the more important thing was just making it out alive, given he was the brains of the operation to fight it. The earlier issues already showed Tails teaming up with Sonic to actually lay the smackdown, so it's not about Tails being a coward; it's about Tails knowing that this is a lot more serious than the usual Eggman robot situation. 
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from Syntax Speedway in Tangle and Whisper Coming to Sonic Forces: Speed Battle   
    Officially confirmed now! For Speed Battle, that is. 
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from Stay at Home Ultima in Tangle and Whisper Coming to Sonic Forces: Speed Battle   
    Officially confirmed now! For Speed Battle, that is. 
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from DaddlerTheDalek in Tangle and Whisper Coming to Sonic Forces: Speed Battle   
    Officially confirmed now! For Speed Battle, that is. 
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from Lord-Dreamerz in Tangle and Whisper Coming to Sonic Forces: Speed Battle   
    Officially confirmed now! For Speed Battle, that is. 
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from MainJP in Tangle and Whisper Coming to Sonic Forces: Speed Battle   
    Officially confirmed now! For Speed Battle, that is. 
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from Sonictrainer in Tangle and Whisper Coming to Sonic Forces: Speed Battle   
    Officially confirmed now! For Speed Battle, that is. 
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from With Me in Tangle and Whisper Coming to Sonic Forces: Speed Battle   
    Officially confirmed now! For Speed Battle, that is. 
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from MainJP in IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog   
    I don't think it necessarily means anything in regards to canon; Movie Sonic and Longclaw showed up, but nobody's calling those canon to Modern Sonic. It's just a bit of cross-promo.
    Saying that, I'd love to be wrong! I think Tangle and Whisper are really great, and I'm glad they're showing up in at least some kind of game setting. 
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from Polkadi~☆ in IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog   
    I don't think it necessarily means anything in regards to canon; Movie Sonic and Longclaw showed up, but nobody's calling those canon to Modern Sonic. It's just a bit of cross-promo.
    Saying that, I'd love to be wrong! I think Tangle and Whisper are really great, and I'm glad they're showing up in at least some kind of game setting. 
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from KingScoopaKoopa in IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog   
    I don't think it necessarily means anything in regards to canon; Movie Sonic and Longclaw showed up, but nobody's calling those canon to Modern Sonic. It's just a bit of cross-promo.
    Saying that, I'd love to be wrong! I think Tangle and Whisper are really great, and I'm glad they're showing up in at least some kind of game setting. 
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from Shadowlax in IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog   
    I don't think it necessarily means anything in regards to canon; Movie Sonic and Longclaw showed up, but nobody's calling those canon to Modern Sonic. It's just a bit of cross-promo.
    Saying that, I'd love to be wrong! I think Tangle and Whisper are really great, and I'm glad they're showing up in at least some kind of game setting. 
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from DaddlerTheDalek in IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog   
    I don't think it necessarily means anything in regards to canon; Movie Sonic and Longclaw showed up, but nobody's calling those canon to Modern Sonic. It's just a bit of cross-promo.
    Saying that, I'd love to be wrong! I think Tangle and Whisper are really great, and I'm glad they're showing up in at least some kind of game setting. 
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from thumbs13 in IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog   
    I don't think it necessarily means anything in regards to canon; Movie Sonic and Longclaw showed up, but nobody's calling those canon to Modern Sonic. It's just a bit of cross-promo.
    Saying that, I'd love to be wrong! I think Tangle and Whisper are really great, and I'm glad they're showing up in at least some kind of game setting. 
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from TransPirate in IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog   
    I don't think it necessarily means anything in regards to canon; Movie Sonic and Longclaw showed up, but nobody's calling those canon to Modern Sonic. It's just a bit of cross-promo.
    Saying that, I'd love to be wrong! I think Tangle and Whisper are really great, and I'm glad they're showing up in at least some kind of game setting. 
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    Tracker_TD got a reaction from MainJP in How WOULD you make multiple gameplay styles?   
    I'd turn to the person telling me to put multiple game styles in this hypothetical Sonic game and slap them for making me do something pointless instead of having characters iterate on Sonic's gameplay as a base in fun and unique ways that don't take me out of the fact I'm playing Sonic. 
    On a serious note, I do get a kick out of how the Sonic Robo Blast 2 Special Stages are based on NiGHTS into Dreams. I could see it backfiring if it were to be used in an official title - a lot of people just don't get NiGHTS - but I liked the idea, at least. 
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