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  1. And now for the show to be rebooted lol

  2. Kinda funny how despite nerfing everyone else's speed through the games.

    They still keep Shadow as fast as Sonic even when he's not particularly relevant anymore. 

    1. dbzfan7

      dbzfan7

      If the comics are anything to go by, apparently he's only moderately fast if he doesn't use his rocket shoes.

    2. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      Yea, but that's literally when he's a mindless drone; there's never a situation when he wouldn't use them. 

    3. dbzfan7

      dbzfan7

      Well I mean he's treated as furry Vegeta along with edge memes so....it kinda makes sense....sorta.

    4. Cayenne

      Cayenne

      This highlights something that I never understood: Why Sega bothered to give Shadow vehicles in Shadow the Hedgehog and 06 when he is much faster than them? I may be mistaken here, but the only transport that somewhat matches his speed is StH's motocycle.

    5. The Tenth Doctor

      The Tenth Doctor

      @Cayenne One thing I liked back in the old Archie days is one nugget of info on Shadow. He enjoys working on and riding motorcycles. So I think that explains 06, after he joined GUN he probably had room to find a hobby. Now why he just tried it in ShtH I don't know.

  3. I can't believe the meme is finally over in Pokemon

    1. Hero

      Hero

      Had to happen sometime I guess.

    2. Balding Spider

      Balding Spider

      There's gotta be some other fuckery going on in this, no way it's real.

    3. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      I saw the whole clip it's real. It's shit but it's still real 

    4. Forgetful Panda

      Forgetful Panda

      Can someone post a link to the clip? My searches are coming up dry.

    5. Dejimon11
    6. Jovahexeon Ogilvie Maurice

      Jovahexeon Ogilvie Maurice

      Did...did they finally do it? If so....what was the cost, Thanos SSMB?

    7. Wraith

      Wraith

      You guys are mad that he WON now?

    8. Forgetful Panda

      Forgetful Panda

      @Wraith with one of his most underdeveloped teams in the entire series, in a tournament that had 3v3 battles all the way through.

      Ash winning this league would be as hollow as beating a game on easy mode.

    9. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      Spoiler

      It didn't feel earned this time. It just seemed like he won cause everybody sucked. He doesn't even have a team of 6 this time. 

       

    10. Ferno

      Ferno

      should've been kalos

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      SHOULD HAVE BEEN KALOS

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      AORF

    11. Wraith

      Wraith

      This poor child will never be good enough for yall

    12. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      I honestly stopped caring after he got screwed in Kalos; I wouldn't have cared either way.

      At least they realized how badly they screwed him back in 2016.

    13. Ferno

      Ferno

      also i guess this means that ash is officially dead and gone for the anime staff since for whatever reason they don't want to show us ash's life post-league win

    14. Hero

      Hero

      I don't know, I stopped caring about Ash winning or losing once I noticed it stopped making sense. Pikachu's like, level 100 or whatever right? I know levels don't count but lets be real.

      There's really no reason Ash didn't win way back when in one of the earlier seasons.

    15. Ferno

      Ferno

      pikachu's been legit canon nerfed several times in the show tbh, first time being the start of Hoenn when team rocket hooked it up to a giant magnet or whatever

    16. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      @Ferno The show is apparently being rebooted soo, yea lol .

    17. Ferno

      Ferno

      might as well go "pokemon adventures" with it now

      make mah boy Gold/Ethan the protag now, I started in gen 2 so I'm biased towards him tbh

  4. I feel like the only character you could get way with cutting in an SA1 remake would be Big; gameplay is obvious enough, but his story offers the least in terms of thematic relevance. 

     

    Cutting out Amy and Gamma's stories though removes a significant chunk of the game's emotional weight. 

    1. SupahBerry

      SupahBerry

      I'd say not remove it, but merely demote Big into a optional sidequest mode. Just streamline his gameplay so that it's more like a minigame fest without having to do all the running around. Not needed to unlock the final boss, but can reward a few goodies for completing or just progressing through it.

       

      (Big's Fishing Derby basically)

    2. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      What if they made the alternative gameplays full fleshed out.

    3. Adamabba

      Adamabba

      Whatever they do, they definitely shouldn't remove it entirely

    4. Dr. Detective Mike

      Dr. Detective Mike

      I've always had respect for the perspective of the bystander who has nothing to do with this, getting wrapped up in a situation far larger than anything he has any business dealing with. 

      Removing it won't be necessary so long as they find a way to make the mini-game fun. If they include it, no doubt they wouldn't want it to stay as un-fun as it was.

    5. Dr. Mechano

      Dr. Mechano

      Big's part of SA1's legacy and I think removing him would make it a lesser experience.

    6. Wraith

      Wraith

      PLEASE sell me less content sega

  5. This one cutscene is a perfect example of Sonic's constant tonal whiplash that is still persisting to this day lol.

     

    1. SupahBerry
    2. Ferno

      Ferno

      how bout the one where sonic makes a dumb cold weather pun and then seconds later eggman tells the zeti dudes that he'll eat their hearts out and burn what they love while they watch

  6. Long live the King.

     

  7. Maybe the reason I prefer Tangle and Whisper is because they can actually develop and change?

     

  8. It's always hilarious to me how Gen 5 of Pokemon was so unpopular when it came out. 

     

    But now it's treated like the holy grail of the series. Talk about a 180 lol.

     

    Personally, it's about as good as Generation 7 for me.

    1. SupahBerry

      SupahBerry

      Gee that doesn't sound familiar                    (turns towards the sword wielding werehog jabs)

    2. Mad Convoy

      Mad Convoy

      Amusingly, Gen 5 was what got me out of the franchise, and although most fans have shifted to be more positive towards it, my viewpoint on it hasn’t changed for years.

      A shame because I love the spritework, soundtrack, and characters (even the most loathesome ones were at least engaging and distinctive). But everything else is either things I dislike or things I don’t mind but would like more if they were handled differently.

      I do ultimately think that Gen 5 is worthwhile to try. Especially for Pokémon fans who aren’t turned away by the surprisingly dark and disturbing story (N is easily the kindest and yet also the most fucked up rival I know of in Pokémon), and JRPG fans who can deal with disappointing gameplay if they get a good story out of the game. But giving Gen 5 holy grail status is overselling it in a way that sets new fans up for disappointment. Which ultimately does Gen 5’s reputation more harm than good.

  9. >People not knowing who SNK is.

     

    Disgusting

    1. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      Man I'm not even a big SNK fan and I know about Fatal Fury and King of Fighters. 

    2. Your Vest Friend

      Your Vest Friend

      you mean shingeki no kyojin right

    3. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      ha ha ha it's not like i haven't heard that in the past 30 minutes alone. 

    4. Your Vest Friend
  10. My favorite thing about Sonic is how you can have two people look at the same exact thing, and one of them will say

    "This sucks" and the other will say "This is good". Franchise has such polarizing opinions, it's hard to even talk about shit anymore lol. 

    1. Ferno

      Ferno

      the series has also done so many things in so many different ways that it has no real set-in-stone look and feel anymore. fans often look to literally anything outside of sonic and say "this would totally fit in sonic"

    2. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      I'm mad because I used to do the same thing...

    3. Dr. Detective Mike

      Dr. Detective Mike

      I'm starting to realize just how much I hate it. I feel like I can't even fully enjoy the stuff I like about the series anymore now.

    4. JosepHenry

      JosepHenry

      you guys think too much, thinking about this stuff can only cause grief

    5. Dr. Detective Mike

      Dr. Detective Mike

      Too late. Already grieving. Sad face. 

      I'll get over it eventually, I'm sure.

    6. SupahBerry

      SupahBerry

      Even the gold Rings?

    7. Cayenne

      Cayenne

      That's normal. When you have a multimedia franchise with many interpretations and a huge following as Sonic, this kind of thing usually happens. Honestly, I'm still to see a fandom where polarizing opinions are something uncommon.

    8. Wraith

      Wraith

      This is true for just about anything

    9. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      Of course it's true for anything, but it's particularly noticeable with Sonic; even people outside the fanbase know how volatile it gets about certain subjects. 

       

      @JosepHenry I don't care as much as the comment implies, its just something I find interesting...and somewhat annoying I admit,. 

  11. >When you wanted Rouge to be more separate from Team Dark. 

    >Sega grants this, but basically ignores her entire history with Shadow and that the latter is "using them because they're useful."

     

    *Monkey's Paw curls* every time.

    1. Zaysho

      Zaysho

      Is this in the current comics or something else

    2. Soniman

      Soniman

      I see no appeal in ruining a perfectly good dynamic 

    3. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      There's a statement going around how Shadow never actually worked for GUN or how he's not apart of Team Dark and only used them.

       

      I definitely remember hearing that from around here, but the source is escaping me atm

    4. Zaysho

      Zaysho

      That's pretty weird. I could see them removing GUN from the picture at least because of the whole "human world" thing, but it's weird they'd do that. Even Forces made it sound like he was friends with them and was upset about Infinite trashing Omega. Would suck if that is the case

    5. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      If this is true I’m gonna laugh and cry.

    6. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      Like I said, take it with a grain of salt because I'll admit I have no source atm.

      But I wouldn't really put it past Sega to so some shit like that since they seem intent on making Shadow into Sonic's aggressive and competitive rival above anything else.

      Which...I'm torn on because, yea I like the idea of Sonic and Shadow getting into stupid pissing contests with each other. But why does it have to come at the expense of his character dynamics with Rouge and Omega, two characters he actually had a close connection to. I just...don't get it.

    7. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      And I found it. Fast forward to 44:30 

       

    8. Ferno

      Ferno

      How was he gonna "use" them in Heroes if he had amnesia and basically followed Rouge's lead along with Omega

      That just feels like one of those comical: "i uh, only pretended to need your help- i was in control the whole time!"

    9. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      The language Flynn uses to describe it makes me think it's less what I said, and more that Team Dark simply do not work for GUN period and "never" have.

       

      Which...is ok

       

  12. Zero Collection on PS4; stop Capcom, I can't contain myself any more than this.

  13. I just love there are so many polarizing reactions lol.

     

    MCU fans are upset, Spiderverse fans are happy. Its hilarious 

    1. Speederino

      Speederino

      If Sony doesn’t try to take creative control of everything, this might be okay in the end.

      Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut for some reason I’m not holding my breath.

    2. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      Spiderverse was going to be a thing no matter what.

    3. Balding Spider

      Balding Spider

      Dude, Sony game fans and MCU fans going at it is bringing me so much life.

  14. WELP. That's the end of MCU!Spidey :V

    1. Balding Spider

      Balding Spider

      Peter's last line from FFH fits this predicament so well.

    2. Crow the BOOLET
  15. People complain more about Spiderverse being "slept on" than actually liking it....

    1. StaticMania

      StaticMania

      Unsurprising...

    2. Zaysho

      Zaysho

      It won a fucking Oscar, what are people talking about

    3. Milo

      Milo

      Story of @Dejimon11's life on Twitter, lmao

      (I mean that to say he's been criticizing people going overboard with this point for weeks on end)

    4. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      You're not wrong

    5. Wraith

      Wraith

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      Not enough people watched it

    6. SupahBerry

      SupahBerry

      Where's the fun in simply gushing over things anymore, right? There always has to be a catch involved.

    7. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      You should be mad that more people went to go see Venom in theaters. That film nearly made a billion in the box office. 

    8. Wraith

      Wraith

      Bad spiderman movies making a lot of money is normal

    9. SupahBerry

      SupahBerry

      @Wraith

      But both Amazing Spidermans sold less then the Rami films.

      You imply that they're better movies than the MCU Spidermans????????

    10. Milo

      Milo

      @Dejimon11 Nearly made a billion dollars....

      like a turd....in the wind...

      *jumps into lobster tank*

    11. Polkadi~☆

      Polkadi~☆

      It isn’t slept on with all the recognition it has. But I do encourage more people to see it, which is what I do for anything I love.

      ...Have you heard the good word of A Hat in Time?

    12. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      I think it'll be more of an issue depending on how Sony continues forward with Spider-Man films and their animation division in general. People are just scared at the prospect of seeing even more movies like the Amazing movies or Venom while Sony Animation goes back to making stupid shit simply because those things, financially, performed better.

      That is an actual concern to have with this industry.

    13. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      Spider-Verse is getting a sequel, a spinoff and a TV show tho. If anything I'd say it's a huge success

      @Polkadi~☆ I already own it but haven't touched it yet. Waiting for the physical version. 

    14. Wraith

      Wraith

      Spiderverse is Sony Animation's most successful film 

    15. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      True, and I'm not saying that all the outcry is exactly warranted, but it really isn't a mute point either. Fact of the matter is that people don't have anything beyond words from Sony to go off from regarding all that. They've been known to cut projects off simply due to cost in the past. Meanwhile, we've been trained to expect, at this point, that numbers carry far more weight. That image Wraith posted is concerning and, for a lot of people, downright worrying.

      The entire thing is weird really. We're in a time where it's often safer to assume the worst from any company. Where they're only out for the pure profit. Thing is, Spider-Verse isn't really anything to write home about when looking at it purely from a financial standpoint and the time we're in. Though, it's accolades are impossible to ignore and Sony knows that.

      While I personally think that the future, in this regard, is a bright one and that people really shouldn't be that concerned; I can't really blame them either.

      @WraithI thought the first Smurfs movie and Hotel Transylvania 2 and 3 all did better?

  16. You know...even when I was 12 years old and just really getting into the online Sonic fandom (and began my descent into darkness)...I never understood why the switching of voices was a big deal.

     

    And I STILL don't get why it's such a big deal...

    1. PC the Hedgehog

      PC the Hedgehog

      You get attached to the voices, especially if you grew up with them, and its jarring when they change, especially when the new actor sounds nothing like the old.

      And when it comes to the whole "replacing the game cast with the Sonic X", it was jarring and stupid. If anything, it would have made more sense to do it the other way around.

    2. SupahBerry

      SupahBerry

      Spoiler

       

      I was confused myself, but I guess I just rolled with it, presumably from what I interpreted they were saying. They made it seem like they labeled every Sonic game after Heroes (or Advance 3, VA wise) worse than everyone before, and part of it was because of the 4Kids cast. That, and when Robotnik started being called Eggman. The shitty friends stuff was there too, but they were smart enough to spare Tails and Knuckles and rant how the newer characters replaced them.

      I just went ahead and followed what the fans were saying and went back to side with Mario. Back in Brawl when they made comedy videos that sometimes made Sonic the victim, I often root for his predator. I did get games like Unleashed Wii and Rush, and despite that I was "not allowed" to like these games, I gave them a try regardless.

      I didn't really catch anybody saying Sonic started to suck ever since he went 3D, got a redesign or a voice to begin with. It was always Sonic Adventure 2 that was called the "Best Sonic game." Then came Sonic 4, and then I started hearing "Sonic doesn't have Green Eyez!!!" "Sonic 3&K is the real GOAT!!!",  and I'm like "okaaaay...?"

      It ultimately was after Generations came out and people started saying "Bring back more playable characters!", "Jason Griffin is the best Sonic!", "Sonic Unleashed and Black Knight were awesome!", "Sonic Adventure 1 was better than 2!"- that I snapped out of it and realized how silly this entire thing was getting. I got so sick of these complaints that I secretly has hoping something worse comes along and they could finally agree on something.

       

      As of recently, I guess I got my wish.

       

      - Rant (sort of)

    3. Ferno

      Ferno

      tbh i wasn't ever super pissed about the sonic VAs changing, I prefered the adventure cast but I still wasn't pissed

      POKEMON'S voice changes on the other hand....

  17. Oh man, this Rocko special is pretty on the nose...

  18. Fire Emblem is LOOONG

  19. I see Galar Zigzagoon watch too many KISS videos

    1. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      But he only knows one song

  20. Wow, its funny to see people upset at the Pokemon Anime, but for Ash winning...or rather HOW he won.

    1. PublicEnemy1

      PublicEnemy1

      ...wait Ash WON!?!

    2. SupahBerry

      SupahBerry

      Aipom's Paw is in affect, it seems.

    3. Polkadi~☆

      Polkadi~☆

      wait wait wait he actuALLY WON A LEAGUE WHAT

    4. Ferno

      Ferno

      ash did what now

      excuse me like what

    5. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      Guys, it was the Quarter Final round lol. He still has two more matches

    6. Polkadi~☆

      Polkadi~☆

      oh

      nevermind

    7. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      *is terrified if he winds up beating Gladion at the finals he has to sing the diamond and pearl rap*

    8. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      You poor bastard

  21. On another note, holy shit I knew Marble garden had a lot of special rings, but it had EIGHT?!

    1. Blue Blood

      Blue Blood

      Yeah, S3K goes totally overboard with them. It's one criticism that I'll always have of the game actually - there are too many opportunities to access special stages. You can get all the Super Emeralds in Mushroom Hill! I know that it was technically possible to get all of the Chaos Emeralds in S2 by EHZ2, but that required specific routing and you had to collect 50 rings after each special stage (unless you were playing as Knuckles).

    2. TheOcelot

      TheOcelot

      Yeah, MG act1 has the most special stages rings in any stage in 3&K . Mushroom Hill act 2 is the next highest with 6 (two specifically for Knuckles). Sonic 3 half has 43, and S&K had 34. Don't ask me how I remember this...

      3&K does have a lot of special stage rings but at least they're harder to find, requires exploration unlike in Sonic 2 and you actually keep your rings when exciting, again unlike in S2.

      In comparison Mania has 68 in Mania mode and a few less in Encore mode.

    3. Indigo Rush

      Indigo Rush

      I personally like the Sonic 1/CD method of holding onto your rings until the end of an act. 

    4. JosepHenry

      JosepHenry

      I prefer when you have an emerald per zone, so you don't get Super Sonic right at the start

    5. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      I don't mind special rings since it encourages exploration personally. 

    6. Milo

      Milo

      @TheOcelot Emphasis on "harder to find". It's kinda ridiculous some of the locations they're in.

      Giant rings hidden underneath pushable spikes in Flying Battery has gotten some notoriety nowadays but another standout example is in Sandopolis. There's a Mario-style quicksand pit that doesn't have an insta-kill bottom like the rest and there's a platform with a Giant Ring underneath it. Good luck figuring that one out without looking up a guide though... 

      @Indigo Rush Personally I'd like to see the Sonic 1/CD approach, return, but 3&K/Mania's hidden rooms are brought back for different uses. While the 3&K/Mania's hidden rooms are good for encouraging exploration; I think the Special Stage approach works better for the the Sonic 1/CD approach, which is based more on highlighting the player's performance. I think it would also help give hidden rooms some more diversity beyond Giant Rings, in favor for having real secret items you otherwise won't find across the game. Alternate goalposts/exits, special power-ups (presumably zone-specific items, like being able to use Generations' skateboard in a downhill-centric level), collectibles you (with some exceptions) can't find on the main routes otherwise.

      To say nothing about zone-specific secrets in general, like the ring-giving angel statue in Wacky Workbench or the floating raft in Aquatic Ruin--fundamental reasons to browse a level before you factor in extra/minigame stages or special coins/rings/whathaveyou.

    7. JosepHenry

      JosepHenry

      the problem is, it encorages exploration until you get them all. you have no incentive to explore the latter stages.

  22. I said this on another site, but I feel like things started to go wrong for this series when rolling was being more and more de-mphasized in favor of just an instant speed button that kills everything.

    It just makes the game so much more shallow...

    1. Tracker_TD

      Tracker_TD

      I think @Diogenes has been saying this for the past 10 years and still gets yelled at for it every time 

    2. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      Because liking anything from the classic games makes you a "genwunner" and instantly invalidates your opinion for some reason. I find it ironic how classic fans get so much shit for that, when its mostly modern fans who accuse them of it. Most classic fans are rather chill in my experience...

       

      And ya know, Mania exists because of them.

    3. SupahBerry

      SupahBerry

      Sonic should've never been a hedgehog. He should've been a sentient pinball. That's the only way SEGA would ever understand not to abandon that factor from the series.

       

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      #SonicBallGOAT

    4. Osmium

      Osmium

      agreed 

    5. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      Still heavily disagree but can see where you’re coming from.

      I just believe that the series should be more about maintaining speed rather than the build up to it.

      Then again, this is coming from someone who’s favorite gameplay moments stem from post 3&K outings so yeah. They’re always going to be that disconnect between classic and modern fans but I am getting sick of that directly correlating to whether a discussion instantly goes south or not. There’s a lot of people that need to get over that initial “it’s part of that era so ew” mentality.

    6. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      Well ok, let's discuss it.

       

      It kind of goes both ways; maintaining your speed should be the goal, but the difference is HOW you get said speed. Instantly going from 0 to 60 at the press of a button simply isn't as satisfying or engaging to me. The 3D games weren't really bad about this until later on in their tenure. 

       

      Its not that I think everything post-Genesis is bad (I grew up on SA2 and Heroes too lol), but I got a much better sense of satisfaction in mastering the controls as much as I did in mastering the level design. In most 3D games, it feels like I'm mostly playing a scripted series of events. A fun scripted series of events mind you, but I was much less engaged than I was. I like feeling like I'm actually playing the game rather than just me acting as a guide if that makes sense. 

    7. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      I can see that and I do see it as a problem in some cases like Forces. Though, as far as that satisfaction for building up speed goes, I’ve never felt that. It always felt like more of a waiting game than anything. Like, do your chores before you can actually have fun.

      From my experience, the classic games have always relied on this stop and go gameplay. Where there were clear built sections for platforming, and clear built sections for giving up control and just going fast in what really is little more than automated set pieces. Most classic levels do a very bad job at weaving the two while a lot of the 3D games are much better at it. Again, not saying it was ever clear cut (Heroes was very stop and go for example, hell, even chu-nan from Unleashed too) but it was definitely more prominent in the early 2D outings and Mania.

      The combination of the two is what I look for. Being able to maintain speed while navigating courses through my own actions. Speed shouldn’t be the reward, better times on levels should be imo.

    8. Wraith

      Wraith

      Are you guys really doing the liking the most popular sonic games and thinking the new sonic games are bad is an unpopular opinion thing

    9. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      No?

       

      @Strickerx5 I never really got that, but that's a valid opinion. I feel like its because 2D level design is more vertical, and the 3D games are more horizontal in their design.

      What 3D games do you feel have a better mix then if you felt they did it better than some of the 2D games?

    10. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      Mainly SA2, Generations, and Daytime Unleashed (most of SA1 too if I recall but then you have things like that casino level so I’m a bit hesitant on that one).

      Maybe me saying games past the classics do it better is a bit of a mute point considering the fact that there are a lot more games that fall under that umbrella. Like, to the same extent you also have games like LW which offer nothing in the way of flow at all so that and other examples like Heroes means there are some definite faults in my wording.

    11. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      Sonic Adventure 2 has good flow to its Sonic/Shadow levels yea; barring shit like the last part of Crazy Gadget and Pyramid Cave. I just wish it didn't get rid of rolling and that Spin Dashing didn't kill all of your momentum. I would like to see the bound jump implemented in a newer game, because I absolutely love how you maintain all of your forward momentum when you use it. PHYSICS.

      Generations and Unleashed...depends on the level; stuff like City Escape, Green Hill flow pretty fine. But then things like the last leg of Planet Wisp kill it for me. Which is funny because the last leg of Planet Wisp is very vertical, but without the physics engine of old to transverse it, its just a fucking slog. 

       

      In fact, this is why I probably hate the 2D sections in the newer games, because Sonic's moveset is not designed for that type of platforming, so it makes it incredibly dull to go through.  

       

    12. Milo

      Milo

      @Strickerx5 Eh, I'd argue the earlier games as a whole aren't really like that at all. It's only really 3&K (and roughly 1/3 to 1/2 of Mania) where that binary speed/platform level design philosophy is really quintessential in the level design. Sonic 1's early installment weirdness leaves it too platform-centric to even entertain halving up speed and platforming; CD's the oddball in that the levels technically accommodate for speed but their structure don't allow you to easily build or retain it. Even Sonic 2 playing up the speed more (primarily by being more liberal with slopes) still avoids having chopped up segments beyond Chemical Plant (honestly, the difficulty spike that game has after Mystic Cave leaves players hurting for a carefree speed segment more than anything else).

    13. dbzfan7

      dbzfan7

      I'm with Kuzu. But for me as someone who isn't an extreme Classic purist, it came to me after playing Mania. Though more of it was about enemies. When I played Mania there were plenty of times enemies proved to be an obstacle or threat. While I went back to Generations and still liked the game, but man I feel enemies aren't even the slightest threat at all. Most prominently in Forces where they just stand there, but even before that they rarely feel effective.

    14. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      @MiloI won't say that flow was completely absent from the classics. Certain levels like all three of the first levels and Studiopolis from Mania do a fine job blending the two. It's just, more often than not across all games from my experience, there really is a clear divide in segments where the devs obviously want you to go fast, and sections where they don't.

      Sonic 1 in general though takes that and just extends it into entire levels really. Sonic 2 is admittedly the closest of the bunch to achieving an overall streamlined flow (to its detriment for some) but even it has multiple segments in just about every level where the pattern is very evident.

      And CD... well, CD's level design is just a mess in general so eh.

    15. Milo

      Milo

      @Strickerx5 I was going to argue that Metropolis is the one real exception of Sonic 2 that doesn't have any "speed" segments, so not "just about every level" counts

      But then I realized the level throws so many cheap shots with the badniks it makes you just want to get to the end of the level faster so mission accomplished I guess

  23. So many games out now...FIre Emblem, KLK, CTR, Marvel...why the fuck shit cost money.

    1. Ryannumber1gamer

      Ryannumber1gamer

      Well to save you some time - I heard Kill La Kill isn't great, CTR's got the microtranactions coming in, Ultimate Alliance 3 is a pretty good time, and I haven't heard anything on Fire Emblem.

  24. First 06 was the worst story, now Lost World is the "worst" story.

     

    I wonder when we'll get a new "worst" story canidate. 

    1. The Tenth Doctor

      The Tenth Doctor

      Feel people would say Forces now. Still think Lost World is worse myself.

    2. JosepHenry

      JosepHenry

      Is like people have different opinions

    3. Tornado

      Tornado

      When do we get the Blurst story?

    4. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      @JosepHenryYea....you said that to say what?

    5. Blue Blood

      Blue Blood

      Can't they just all be the worst in their own special ways?

    6. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      No, one must be the absolute worst to convince everyone which era was better than the other.

    7. SupahBerry

      SupahBerry

      Everyone knows Sonic 1 has the worst "story". But to even call it a story would be misleading. 

       

      Like, where's the cutscenes? Where's the dialouge?? All I get is a guy that goes around killing robot animals and then smaller animals pop out for absolutly no reason! And then there's a big red dude with glasses that comes out of nowhere and starts hitting the blue guy in a weird hovercraft? What does any of that have to do with hedgehogs?!

       

      Don't give that "read the manual" crap; nobody knows how to read anymore.

    8. Strickerx5

      Strickerx5

      Still actually think it's Heroes.

    9. Rusty Spy

      Rusty Spy

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      Forces was the worst

    10. Tornado

      Tornado

      TORTURED FOR MONTHS

  25. Turns out that complex moral conflicts and long running serialized children series don't exactly mix. Who knew.

    1. Perkilator

      Perkilator

      Which show?

    2. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      You talking about dragon ball? :P

    3. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      @Dejimon11 Sonic, but the same applies lol. 

    4. Perkilator

      Perkilator

      Which episode or whatever?

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