Kuzu
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I really have to wonder what is it about Sonic Team related games in that they have so much charm and appeal, but fail purely on their technical merits.
Its like they get so caught up in the game's aesthetic and atmosphere and forget that it actually needs to be good on a technical level too.
It's so odd.
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Piko and Redemption reacted to this
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I did a Google trend of most Sonic characters since I was curious on which ones still have public awareness and wow the results are depressing.
Pretty much nothing for anyone post-Sonic 3...except Shadow of course, not even Metal Sonic trends that high despite being a classic era character himself.
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Redemption reacted to this
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Makes me wonder why the hell does SEGA keep trying to shove every damn character down our throats recently (Sonic Generations, Forces, the mobile games) if that's the case.
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Redemption reacted to this
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Are you really surprised?
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Supah Berry and Redemption reacted to this
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It's almost like shitty writing with screechy voices makes them unappealing to a lot of people
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Supah Berry and Redemption reacted to this
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@Dejimon11 I wanted to believe at Blaze kept some relevance...
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@Kuzu Blaze is only popular within the fan base. Normies don’t even know who she is and causal sonic fans are like “oh yeah her”
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Supah Berry reacted to this
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The fact that Knuckles is front and center on the issue while Sonic is just in the background, pretty much tells the entire story.
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Oh boy, I read these issues in preparation for this. Think the biggest shock was seeing a Spykids 3 ad in one of these issues and realizing that I'm fucking OOOOOLLLLDDDD.
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Ahh, nice to Shadow does in fact murder people.
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Jingilator and Supah Berry reacted to this
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Nah, he just hacked into his account and posted Eggman's nudes to get him banned.
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Jingilator and Supah Berry reacted to this
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He shouldn't have done it. Eggman's dick looks like all Tetris pieces at once.
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Every day I'm reminded that the Sonic fanbase is one of the most unfun places to be.
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Real talk here, instead a sarcastic remark like I would usually make.
Big, online communities tend to be pretty unfun to engage with after a while. When you're just on the peripheries or only dip your toes in every now and then they're alright, but the impersonal nature of everything online and all the different voices you're hearing make for an uncomfortable time. And you don't always realise it; you're so enthusiastic about/interested in the subject that you aren't consciously aware of all the noise that's constantly going on in the background.
It happens with EVERY fandom. It's almost inarguably worse with Sonic because there are so many divided opinions and very few fans feel consistently satisfied with the series. And even those who do feel satisfied have to contend with the negative emotions that other people are experiencing. Two of the best times to be a Sonic were the announcements of Generations and later Mania; two games that sent almost the entire fandom into a frenzy of unmitigated excitement. But generally, yes, there's a strong undercurrent of dissatisfaction that makes the large community difficult to be a part of.
I cope with it by being unrelentingly cynical and pessimistic. I find that to be quite cathartic, but the irony of fact that I'm spreading the very negativity I'm lamenting isn't lost of me either. The other way that I cope, and this took me years to learn, is just to distance myself from the stuff I'm not interested in our that I've exhausted. Most new Sonic-related threads on here I don't even read these days. I'm too jaded for it all. I've seen these discussions before, and I've learned to just not care.
Of course the very best thing you can do is talk Sonic with a smaller group. Like, just a couple of people for your regular Sonic talks. Don't bother with Discord groups or whatever. Smaller groups are so much more digestible. Just my two cents
sonic sux
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Its definitely annoying yea. I don't wanna be a cynical sad sac of shit, so I don't opt for that.
I've just learned to not....talk to people. Distancing yourself really the only way to protect your mental state, because jeeeesus.
I don't think people really understand how much being surrounded by so much at once is just mentally exhausting after a while, but people continue to engage.
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Supah Berry reacted to this
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It can be difficult to talk about your favorite characters in a fanbase, especially when you are dealing with very rude people. There are times where I get a bit frustrated with the Sonic fanbase, especially when they start talking about what they want to see in the next movie or the next game and then they start complaining when the things they want to see don't appear. Now, don't get me wrong. I'm all for people expressing their own opinions on a franchise. But for me personally, if the game or the movie is good, regardless of what content is in it, then that's good enough for me. Like for example with the movie, I never expected them to go with the usual "road trip" movie route. But at the end of the day, the movie was still pretty good for me.
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Nobody seems to have posted the translations of the short story, so here you go.
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What are some mandates by Sega you don't agree with?
Kuzu replied to Rabbitearsblog's topic in Green Grove Zone
....So are you aware of the fact that Iizuka directed almost every game from Sonic Adventure until Shadow right? So this "consistent direction" you're referring to was because Iizuka, not Naka...who was in a Producer position by then. In fact, Naka has not directed a single Sonic game, period. He's been either a programmer or a Producer. There's so many layers of irony to people who "wanna go back to how Sonic was" and then say they hate Iizuka in the same exact sentence, almost completely ignorant of the fact that "what Sonic was" was literally because of Iizuka. -
First arc in IDW, still applies. And she's writing for the main series, not a spin off.
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>how to get Sonic fans into Vtubers.
Have Korone play Sonic games.
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It's always like this lmao. Shadow and Knuckles are popular characters, so of course pushing and giving them tons of focus makes sense. But I guess a lot of people wanted some of the more neglected characters to get some time in the spotlight as opposed to two characters who already had tons of focus to begin with. So fast forward to IDW and Shadow and Knuckles have significantly reduced roles overall, while the series highlights the newer cast members like Tangle and Whisper. Cue complaints from Shadow and Knuckles fans about how they're not being used properly at all now.
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I guess it's all a matter of perspective, but as Wraith pointed out...none of Shadow's appearances in the book are actually about him specifically. Almost any time Shadow showed up in Archie, the storyline was more or less about him, or him and another character. Shadow Fall and Total Eclipse are Shadow centric stories, bar none; he is the main focus of the former, and is co-stars with Knuckles in the latter. His appearances beyond those two arcs however have him mostly do the same he's been doing in IDW. This is also ignoring how outside of those two arcs in particular, Shadow is mostly a supporting character in Archie. The SA2 story arc was pretty much glossed over, and until Sonic Universe existed, his presence was pretty minor in the grand scheme of it all. So it feels so weird to highlight his two major appearances in the book, when as a whole, its his least prominent role to date. In Shattered however? He doesn't do any more than he was doing here. Now you're right that there was more of a balance in Archie, but as I said, that's because he had story arcs that specifically were about him and put him as the main character. IDW has not given him that luxury, he has been mostly relegated to a supporting role and he does not go beyond that at all.
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Like I said, I feel like people are just too used to Shadow having such a commanding presence even in stories where he's part of an ensemble; games like Heroes, Battle, 06, Rivals, and even spin off media like Sonic X just gave Shadow a lion's share of attention even when he was just part of a greater ensemble. So it's probably jarring for fans to see Shadow actually just used as a supporting character who's contributions are no bigger than anyone else's, when the character was pretty much defined as the problem solver for so long. In any case, I guess, I'll give my review for the arc as a whole: As Evan's first foray into the book, I think the intention of this arc was to cool things down after all of the trauma and action from the Metal Virus saga. Have a much smaller conflict to decompress, and I'd say she mostly succeeded. I guess I'll just go into what I didn't like and what I did like, and just conclude. I think that while this arc was overall fine, it runs into similar issues that have plagued the book; not really fleshing thins out and just being more than a little bloated in what its trying to do. To give an example, we know next to nothing about Clutch or the underground that he runs, and he basically disappears from the story after he sics the super badnik on the crew, and the Chao Races don't even get that much focus despite being the focus of some of the advertising. As a result, it kind of nixes any potential involvement from Cream as a character since Chao races would have been a great opportunity to flesh her out, but once the action starts she's relegated to her usual passive role. This arc introduces Belle halfway in, but she similarly doesn't get much to do, although I'm guessing they're saving that for later, but this arc didn't do much to sell me on her as someone I want to invest my time into. As for what I liked, well it was nice focusing on a much smaller cast this time around with less perspectives; Rouge's group, Sonic's group, and Shadow. Kept things somewhat more focused, particularly when all of them intersect. I'm glad they're at least trying to flesh out the world by establishing the buildings in White Park are actually hotels. Its not much, but its a start. I really liked the character dynamics this time around, as we finally get some unusual pairings with characters like Amy, Cream, and Rouge interacting and Tails and Belle instantly making a connection, and of course, it's never a dull moment whenever Sonic & Shadow are forced to be in the same room with each other. And the art was actually pretty consistent for the entire arc, so no jarring art shifts to break immersion. All in all, I'd give a solid B grade. It did what it set out to do, and laid the foundation for future arcs, but its not perfect and I hope Evan can improve as much as she can under Sega's supervision.
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I'm starting to think people only like Sonic voices when they talk less.
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I like him when he has a good voice director.
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Supah Berry and Ellipsis-Ultima reacted to this
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Well when you look at the scripts of the current games (and on several occasions in the earlier games) and how those poor actors are expected to read them out, on top of voice direction mandates, can you really blame them? A lesser game with Sonic, like a having cameo appearance, I suspect gives Roger and co more freedom in how they can approach a line since they're mostly relatively basic, not to mention not sounding like a 9 year old fan fic nor 3 year old kids show.
Maybe it ain't just fans hating on a VA for what they (are forced to) sound like, rather it's also hating them for what lines come out of their mouths.
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Snowragnarok reacted to this
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Roger is a great actor and I really like him in other stuff, but not really his Sonic voice. Jun'ichi is still great though.
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The Tenth Doctor reacted to this
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What @The Tenth Doctor said. His Sonic is like the ultimate 'How do you do, fellow kids?' voice.
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Unlike Sonic leaks, Pokemon leaks are actually legit more often than not.
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Half of me is psyched, and the other half is terrified after Sword and Shield.
I want to return to Sinnoh again... please don't be a monkey's paw situation.
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Supah Berry reacted to this
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You're going to get a low-budget upscaled 3DS game with less than half the content of Platinum, and you're going to fuckin' like it.
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This has me so conflicted. On the one hand, Pokémon Pearl was my first ever game in the series, so of course a part of me would love to return to the Sinnoh region in HD.
On the other hand... well, modern Pokémon games kinda suck. And after playing through Sword not too long ago, I really, REALLY don't want to see Sinnoh get botched by Game Freak/TPC.
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I'm honestly at a point where I don't really care about characters "winning" or not.
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Ugh, can't believe Mario has become some edgy Anime shlock. He was so much better when he just saved princess and jumped on goombas. And what's with the stupid buttrock music, so cringe. 1-1 is so much better.
Nintendo really needs to start bringing Mario back to his roots.
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@Strickerx5 No and anyone who says otherwise is a clown
/half-joking ofc
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It's hilarious that Sonic spent the whole decade sanding off his rough edges to appeal to Mario players and yet not only did Mario Odyssey have honest to god rolling physics, but heres Mario and Bowser recreating the ending to Sonic Adventure 2.
Iizuka must be kicking himself in the balls right now.
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Why are some Sonic fans like this...
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AWild No.1 washed up gamer and Jingilator reacted to this
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Sigh. Alas, the line has been awfully blurred these days hasn't it?
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I'm saying you don't see people complain about how anytime a show has a parody or reference to Mario, it's "borderline plagiarizing", do you? Like, there were many times where a guy would be at the top of a building throwing barrels while another would be bumping floating blocks in a pixelated art style and no one would bat an eye. What makes it more significant when somebody else strikes an iconic pose, running over loops and make figure eights while their running?
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I honestly wish Classic fans didn't constantly bring that up as if it's an actual problem, but Sega's been content with ignoring them fortunately.
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I get the feeling that they didn't want to completely step on the toes of Metal Sonic, who already covered the evil doppelganger schtick. But as a result, Shadow's resemblance to Sonic is just pretty inexplicable. I guess if they were ever gonna hard reboot the franchise, compositing their concepts together would just get rid of a lot of headaches. Shadow would actually have a connection with Sonic that's just not just contrived coincidence , and Metal Sonic gets to actually be a character worth caring about. Wouldn't be shocked at all if the movies went ahead with that.
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So I completely forgot about Balan Wonderworld...has there been any info about that game at all since...the Switch trailer?
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@Blue Blood Oh trust me, they were. I remember all the annoying holler of "ZOMG so much better than *insert X company".
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I've been getting a lot of amusement at Sonictubers going at each other on social media lately over their preferences for Sonic. It's entertaining.
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I still cannot fathom why some people would prefer for Shadow to be some clone of Sonic, and eliminate everything about him that's unique.
