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  1. The Horton movie fucking sucks because I've seen The Peanuts Movie. I've seen what true greatness is

    1. Big Panda

      Big Panda

      The Peanuts movie literally wouldn’t exist in its current state if not for Horton.

    2. The drunkard from space!

      The drunkard from space!

      @Mythical Panda: Do you have a citation for that?

    3. Sean

      Sean

      Yeah and films wouldn't exist if it weren't for the KKK having a film that painted them as heroes of America

      I'm not thankful for Horton or any Dr. Seuss film made in the last 30 years.

    4. Big Panda

      Big Panda

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Peanuts_Movie#Production

      Quote

      Craig [Schulz], stating there is no one “more protective of the comic strip than myself”, chose [Steve] Martino as director because he showed faithfulness to literature in his adaptation of Dr. Suess’ Horton Hears a Who!

    5. Milo

      Milo

      @Mythical Panda I dunno if I would go that far, but yeah, the Schulz family is on record for saying that they felt Steve Martino did a good job with Horton in terms of being faithful to the book, that they picked him to direct the movie from their script.

      (Of course, it also goes without saying that Blue Sky was apparently the only studio willing to give the Schulz family creative control over their movie as it is...)

    6. Big Panda

      Big Panda

      Yeah and films wouldn't exist if it weren't for the KKK having a film that painted them as heroes of America”

      Wut?

    7. Supah Berry

      Supah Berry

      @Mythical Panda He also directed the fourth Ice Age, apparently.

      It took about six years for the Schulzs to get that film off the ground until they met Blue Sky. Makes me hope Illumination is giving Miyamoto enough of as say as Blue Sky did for them.

       

       

      If they aren't?

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      Just make'em.

    8. Milo

      Milo

      @Mythical Panda Sean's referring to the (original) Birth of a Nation from 1915. The film is historically important for not only being one of the first feature films of the medium; it's also credited for near-singlehandedly inventing and/or pioneering a lot of techniques, tools, and tropes fundamental to making films, even today (just to name a few--camera close-ups, fade outs, using an musical score for an orchestra, and staged battle sequences).

      BUT that historical significance is marred by its subject matter (adapted from a book titled The Clansmen). It's a story about two families and their struggle in the American Civil War that paints the KKK as heroes (it's actually credited to the group's resurgence in popularity in that decade) and champions white supremacy; while also vilifying African-Americans as the (now all-too-familiar) racist caricatures of them being unintelligent and predatory towards white women. Dissonance in values doesn't even hit the tip of the iceberg in regards to this movie.

    9. Nix

      Nix

      @Mythical Panda

      The Birth of a Nation, probably.  Tons of groundbreaking film making techniques came from that movie (or were at least popularized by it).

      But it's an incredibly racist movie that portrays the KKK as America's saviors.

    10. Sean

      Sean

      I'm mostly being facetious. My standards of what a good animated film adaptation can be changed drastically after I saw the Peanuts film and realized that it wasn't going to be setting any trends. And Horton's really only good compared to other Dr. Seuss movies which isn't a high bar to surpass.

      A better example for me to use would have been Sonic 2006 vs Sonic Unleashed; the former's badness was what made Sega try to turn the franchise around and produce one of my favorite games in the series but it doesn't raise my opinion of 2006 in the least.

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