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This is the lumpiest massage I've ever gotten.

But that's not where shoes g-AH MY FACE

Hot Wheels Extreme Racing?

Aw thats nothing...

Children's cartoons from japan aren't likely to have a thoughtful and nuanced take on race relations

@Wraith Neither do a lot of western shows. These were just the first examples I could think of.

RWBY is western anime btw.

Dunno about the other two, but One Piece isn't done with Fishman Island yet. I don't actually know how it will go down, but considering how the series literally revolves around a "punch the fascist in the face" MC, and the continual setting up of the area and characters for later plot relevance, I'd be surprised if their story actually ended on the same note the arc itself did.

If it does end on the same note, I agree, it's a shitty platitude, especially given the situation, but if it doesn't and meets in the middle with Luffy's inevitable hammer of justice, I'd say it gave pretty equal credence to everyone involved, outside of Hodey.

As for why it is the way it is, I was thinking about it with the Rudolph story that came up, and it's probably because, as a plot thread, the "ugly duckling" angle is a lot more relatable to audiences? Like, no writer goes into writing their story, with obvious sympathetic characters and obvious bullies, with the main point to blame the victim themselves for their "problems", but as a storyline for people to follow, and a character to root for, the hidden talent or runaway success angle is a lot more inspiring a message to anyone who sympathizes with the MC, as it'd give them hope to overcome their own odds and prove to the world that they're worth something, even if their own anxieties and persecutions don't actually line up 1:1 with the characters in the story.

The other part of my brain is telling me that retaliating against and acknowledging the characters who marginalized MC and the damage they inflicted ends up being too on the nose for most people to be comfortable with, though...

Unironically the best character theme in SA1.

The instrumental themes were probably the best in SA1, because they focused a lot more on tone and instruments to set the scene for this character. Gamma's especially is heartbreaking.

A subtle detail I liked is that they played the full version during the prison scene and it syncs nearly perfectly with the interactions. It makes sense since that is likely when you'll first meet Gamma in the game, being early in Amy's story.

Kaminari isn't nearly as obnoxious or persistent and Bakugou's behavior is treated seriously in-universe as something kinda fucked up and wrong, that's why the development happens. Mineta is just a gross weirdo that has his lack of any respect for boundaries treated as a funny little character trait instead of something genuinely kind of creepy.

People nowadays are incredibly thin-skinned and don't know how to take old fashioned jokes anymore. ESPECIALLY with anime.

Mineta is incredibly tame compared to anime perverts of the past and I honestly find him incredibly hilarious in how he often just doesn't give a fuck about anything. He amuses me.

To add to what Shaddy said, especially pre-UA - Bakugo was seen as a hero prodigy, having a stupidly powerful quirk that made him a shoe-in for being a sidekick to a major hero right away. You notice at a point he warns his friends to not be idiots, if he was caught breaking the law (sneaking into nightclubs and the like), he wouldn't have a hope of getting into UA. 

However, the thing about Bakugo's bullying towards Deku, is that it usually occurs in areas where he gets away with it. He clearly has some of his old teachers bent around his finger due to his potential as a hero, and his classmates admire him, and look down on Deku as a quirkless freak, and share his view that Deku is just wasting his time chasing a ridiculous dream. Not to mention that UA also only takes a certain amount of candidates from each school, and it's highly likely a good few of them wanted to apply as well, and then there's Deku who doesn't really have a hope and still is wasting others' time because he won't give up. You can begin to understand just why Bakugo got away with his shit for so long.

Things changed when he entered UA because despite his tough guy bullshit, he was among others who were also determined to be heroes - as in others who were honourable, and weren't as easily intimidated.

In other words, Bakugo changed from the top dog of his own class, the guy who could do no wrong to just another inexperienced kid with a ton of powers he doesn't really understand how to use in a heroic fashion and it's represented.  Things just proceeded to fall even further and drive him into even more extremes of anger as his earlier target - Deku not only got in, but proclaimed he wasn't Bakugo's punching bag anymore and managed to best him several times right in front of his other classmates.

That's one of the most interesting things about the Deku VS Bakugo fight in general, if it was at the old high school, almost definitely, everyone would root for Bakugo. When it was UA and it was actual experienced heroes? Deku got a crap ton of chops for not only stepping up despite the power gap, but outsmarting Bakugo, playing his anger to his advantage, and more importantly - focusing on the objective as opposed to the fight, as Bakugo did. 

That'll be because he's a goblin who shat himself at all times

And then the next we see of him he's stuck in an alternate dimension because of an offscreen experiment. Then he decides to live in ANOTHER alternate dimension because said muscle girl lives there.

GX was a fucking ride.

Later Sonic franchise, been a fun rid but this is where I stop.

i'd be all for it just to be contrarian

The one thing that scares me about the prospect of a Sonic Adventure 1/2 remake. Having to deal with shitty modern-isms. I ain't gonna praise SA1 voicing as everyone knows about the poor direction that game had. Even Ryan Drummond explained just how shitty the direction he got was. It's hilariously bad direction. I really don't want to hear Sonic's "Eh" breath at the end of every sentence he says *exhale*. 

Eggman was the original Baldy McNosehair, Sonic fans just aren't ready to admit it yet

If it's not just a visual update with necessary changes to control scheme(don't assign everything to a god damn action button), I'll be upset. I'll be furious if they make it anything like the modern games. I despise the stories and characterization in the modern Sonic Team games. 

Is this Sonic the Hedgehog or Awesome Possum? XD

And people will defending it regardless and say that the fanbase is ungrateful 

This is it. This is everything I warned people about in terms of narrative from the series way back with Colors, now going back and actually infecting the previous outings. god help us

they'd probably make it with lw's art-style and gameplay too

@Strickerx5 I'd rather have them give Lost World's gameplay for an SA1 remake then the boost. At least that feels somewhat closer to the original 

Sonic Adventure with Lost's World's gameplay wouldn't be Sonic Adventure. If Sonic Team can't recreate Sonic's gameplay in a remake for Sonic Adventure, don't bother. Full stop.

Besides they said they want to move forward for Sonic not backwards....by also moving backwards for Sonic by shoving in Classic Sonic where he shouldn't be....

@Dejimon11LW playing closer to the origi-?... wow deji, didn't know you thought sa1 played like shit

To be honest I don't see a SA1 remake doing anything but appeasing a very small amount of fans in the first place, even if it ends up being super faithful. The nature of the era and game itself had so much to do with personal vision and interpretation filling in the gaps, "Adventure 1 but modernized" could mean dozens of different takes in everyone's own heads. Several different "SA1 Remastered" projects have shut down in early stages due to "creative differences", (if taken at face value, at least) and I kinda feel that'd encapsulate the majority of the fanbase when all is said and done.

Buying the HD port on PC was good enough for me; the Saturn-Dreamcast vibes are perfect enough on their own. Only big downside is all the bugs that stick with it, which would be great to get rid of, but other than that, I kinda like keeping SA1 as-is. The all encompassing "best Sonic game" everyone wants it to be in one way or another is better suited for a totally original game, imo

So...basically Sonic Adventure with the script rewritten by Pontaff?

imagine if they remade the adventures, only with 30 playable characters, eggman uses his '06 design and is only ever called dr robotnik, all of the other characters are given realistic human anatomy, all jokes are removed in favor of dramatic soliloquies, mephiles and infinite are there, tails acts like duke nukem, and they kill off, hm, let's say...rouge. just to prove how serious the villains are.

boy that sure is a weird idea that nobody wants and is nothing like the series has ever been huh, hypotheticals are fun

So a Modern styled Adventure game, in every way?

Maybe a bit of both. Some stories actually do a good job of portraying the complexity of things, but they make a clear case of which one is in the worse light. That said, some don’t do enough for one side to earn the sympathy while somehow being portrayed as an equally valid side.

One well known example would be the Gundam series Federation vs Zeon. The Zeons are Space Nazis, and there’s nothing portrayed to hide that, yet you do find admirable Zeons that are genuine and decent people (Check out Gundam Stardust, one episode has an ex-Zeon pilot/mechanic houses and feeds a enemy Federation solder after the war),

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Am I just being too cynical

uh yeah if you're writing off every possible conflict as being black and white then you are definitely being too cynical

sure this is a shitass trash fire of a world we live in and there are absolutely people who do not deserve your compassion but people are still people and that means sometimes they fuck up and do shitty things without being irredeemable monsters

thats what happens when you're a seasonal anime with great pacing and no filler arcs, or filler scenes thrown into canon episodes for padding

*low-key jelly one piece fan*