KHCast

the dab in the lab

Please excuse me, I have to Pokemon GO to the bathroom

this cant be real

...it's real isn't it

Zippy Zappy Dippy Dabby

The big deal is?

Yeah I remember hearing positive things about KH2 that I never hear ANY criticism about it. I'm really don't like KH but even I'll admit KH2 is pretty good. It might be nostalgia but yeah I remember it being actually fun.

Yeah, vanilla KH2 was still super loved and praised when it came out and for the longest time after. It's mostly salty KH3 fanboys/apologists trying hard to deflect any criticism of the game's glaring flaws and lack of fulfilling content. Vanilla KH2 had it's problems, sure, but it still felt like a satisfying experience the whole way through. KH2 Final Mix just took it to a whole other level we never thought possible at the time, speaking as someone who played it when first came out on PS2 long before the HD collections.

With as much time that's passed, setting KH2FM as the base expectations for what KH3 should've been like on release is not only far from "too much", it's honestly a little under what it should be. Instead, it just feels like it was another "side game" that was made to get it out of the way.

What’s more, I can’t believe fans just willingly support being sold a fuller experience via a DLC patch and by extension give a empty feeling game a pass and look over its current issues. Why not just in this modern age, expect a full game with content to begin with, and THEN see if there’s more to add. That’s how I was imagining a final mix situation playing out, similar to 2. Now I’m just wondering if a 3FM will give me that basic full experience I was initially expecting

Well, at least we're getting the similar amount of "limit cut" (aka data org) bosses to KH2FM, so there's that.

https://twitter.com/xenosaga7/status/1141208851443666944

As for people not liking KH2 vanilla at the start - I don't have the link anymore, but I saw the reaction to it on several forums with posts going as back as the vanilla release, and people were critical to KH2. No dodge roll, being more button-mashy than the original, story being confusing, lack of post-game content, crappy maps. People were saying at that time that it was a "disappointment", just like how it is with KH3 to many people.

Also kinda have to remember that internet in 2006 was a different beast compared to 2019, hence the bigger volume of both similar-minded and varied opinions.

As for DLC - while I'd prefer everything to be from the start, I can kinda sorta understand why it's happening the way it is. They had to make the game till that specific time Square planned, so the team could start working on DLC (cuz the game went gold more than a month before its release iirc), as well as it shouldn't clash with any other Square's releases. If they delayed the game till end of 2019 or 2020 just to add the additional stuff, it'd either clash with a lot of other releases, or its sales would've been cannibalized by FF7R (which most likely had an internally planned release date for a while). You can expect full experience, but that'd be a fool's errand in 2019. 

That said, ofc blindly praising something and attacking those that have issues with the game is crappy, just as how people blindly trashing the game and attacking people that think the game's good. both sides are clowns

EDIT: Sorry for this wall of text and a somewhat rambling type of post, so tl;dr - KH2 vanilla did have people disliking/being disappointed in it, it just wasn't in the same volume compared to KH3; while I'd prefer if everything was on the box, but there are reasons why it didn't, and it's not "wow they lazy uwu"; blind praise/blind hate and attacking other people for different opinion = being a clown with huge-ass honking clown shoes.

KH3 has issues that to me place(and a lot of people) it in a worse situation than 2 vanilla, and in this current industry with the resources available to them, they really shouldn’t be struggling with passing the vanilla edition of a PS2 game or even the final mix version in the way of content. I mean for god’s sake they butchered Twilight Town, offered a weak secret boss, and dropped the coliseum tournament and oathkeeper and oblivion weren’t available in base. That’s fucking pathetic. Even DDD and BBS offered a more satisfying experience. And that’s just a few of the glaring omissions

It is not surprising Kingdom Hearts 3 turned out like this in the current industry where it takes much longer to create content.

I'm still not really sure what the DLC is. You like play as other characters?

Well, to be fair, some of the people he argues with aren’t exactly any better. And outside of being kind of a bully, he’s not that bad of a person.

@Perkilator You lose me at being a bully period.

Why are you bringing in this drama?

I’m talking about a well known figure within a specific fandom being a jerk, and getting praise for it. I just don’t get it. It’s upsetting that the fandom boosts guys with attitudes like that up.

...sonic RUNNERS???

Oh sorry Sonic Dash lol

You got my hopes up...

Good thing they gave 6 days time to get him. I feel like I'm halfway there.

..you're almost at mushroom hill?! I'm at the Temple zone! D:

*peers out from behind a dumpster*

Who's asking?

An apple a day keeps the doctor away, Yoshi. 

Peach finally got promoted from Nurse to Doctor, I'm so proud of her

I’m mad we don’t have a Doctor Donkey Kong or Bowser yet

better yet, Super Smash medical school

@KHCast

Yo

Oh okay well that’s a relief. Now where’s my donkey Kong?

@Your Vest Friend *Keeps the IRS away

Doctor Kong

I’m sorry this isn’t what you were talking about, but... Elijah Daniel? They looked so much alike, but now Elijah Wood and Daniel Radcliffe have fused together!

Elijiel Woodcliffe