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    The Tenth Doctor reacted to Sonic Fan J in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Gangsters Paradise is on Page 380)   
    This is actually more of a reference to the Archie Comics than any game. Sonic in the games collects rings as health first and foremost, as a key to accessing bonus stages and powering his super forms second, as a currency in a lot of other games, and as a speed and acceleration boost in racing games. The Rings being used as portals and teleportation from place to place is more akin to the Warp Rings primarily used by the Echidnas in in the Archie Comics, and most notably Finitevus; a well known villain amongst Archie Sonic fans. That's a pretty deep cut for a main franchise element that is always front and center for the most part and goes well outside of it's most iconic use. While it's probably important for the story of the movie as they are telling it (really I'd argue for collecting enough rings to create a ring portal to jump worlds would be more game accurate and not make rings more over powered than they are), it probably would have worked better to just use them like in SatAM and Sonic X where they are just a temporary powerup as those shows are still freshly talked about even to this day. Finitevus and warp rings are a little too deep for most people and hence the confusion and lack of knowledge on the part of many.
    I get that you are trying to be positive for the movie, and I think you should be if you are truly happy with what you have seen, but I'm curious what are you trying to accomplish by convincing other people to do that same. If you're just looking for a place to share your enthusiasm this tumblr https://sonicpositive.tumblr.com/post/185644409409/i-remember-the-first-time-i-ever-saw-a-sonic-game is a great place to go and to my knowledge they know a few other places as well. And no, I'm not trying to chase you off either, I'm just offering a suggestion based on a possible reason for your insistence that everyone be as positive about this movie as you, even those who don't like. That's kind of a tall order and seems really unfair to the opinions of others.
    As for me, I've given this movie so many chances now it's ridiculous. Even after a producer was quoted off record as saying the movie is about "a small town coming together to help the sheriff save Sonic from the government" I was willing to give it a chance. Even after all of the leaks I was willing to give it a chance. Even after how appalled I was with the motion poster I was willing to give it a chance. Even after reading the Tim miller interview where he defended ignoring the IP holder for "his" vision of what the character needs to be, an unproven vision that had no concept of why the character was popular and has such wide visual appeal, I still gave this movie a chance. Then the trailer came and watching Sonic's glutes move under his fur and skin while he was stretching was one of the most disturbing things I have ever seen. And that was followed by more wrong, after wrong, including the unnecessary use of the "gotta go fast" line (there's an actual easter egg) that is used to make fun of the franchise in the first place, and of course Sonic, having electricity powers that exist absolutely nowhere in the franchise beyond a shield from Sonic 3&K that let's you jump twice that he can use to emp the entire Pacific Northwest. That is not the SOnic I grew up with and see Sega put out year after year after year.. But it doesn't end there. Did you notice not a single character in the entire trailer is ever named? Not even Sonic himself. Why didn't that trailer at any point at least have Sonic's iconic finger wag, or his James Bond riffing introduction line of "I'm Sonic, Sonic the Hedgehog"?
    I get being positive for something you like, but I'm also of the understanding that you are harshest on the things you love, and nearly 450 pages of talk about this movie should tell you how much we love Sonic here. And before you ask me the rather condescending question of if I would like this movie more if it was animated (cg, hand drawn, etc.) let me tell you plain and simple, no. This movie has shown me no wonder, no sense of adventure and discovery, no ancients artifacts and the conflicts that ensue between Sonic and Eggman over them, no fantastical locations that could only exist in fiction (no a heap of giant lifeless brown mushrooms is not fantastical too me). The presentation of this movie, the advertising, the words of the producers and studio, the words of the early script writers, none of it has convinced me that this is Sonic the Hedgehog and no amount of being told to be positive or respect the creator's vision (funny how the movie team isn't doing that either) will change that, nor will just fixing Sonic's model or going fully animated regardless of the problem behind the concept of making an impossible cartoon character real world believable. Cause believe it or not, but I absolutely hate that mentality that something can only be believable if it has realistic visuals. That is a load of garbage that completely ignores the importance of acting, writing, and directing to weave together a story that you can effected by. Sure if you show a person get hit by a truck and show every last detail of the effect it has you will react because you understand the connotations of being hit by a truck and it's awful. But what about having somebody being bitten by a corpse turning into a walking corpse themselves. It's not particularly believable without good writing, acting, and directing to sell you that it is happening to the characters that your watching or reading about, and that is regardless of being live action or otherwise. Just jumping to the conclusion that visually realistic makes everything more believable is utter hogwash and disrespects the entire art of storytelling.
    So now you probably want to ask what I would do if I was tasked with making a live action Sonic movie (or maybe any Sonic movie of any kind). Well, believe it or not but I've played on that a number of times already in this thread. But before I repeat myself again, first allow me to explain to you how unnecessary I find the entire setting of this movie to a Sonic story.
    Tom is a small town cop who is married and believes he can make it as a big town cop. That is Tom's story arc and he will never experience it being with Sonic in any form because under no circumstances does Sonic's adventures allow Tom to see that he can make as a big town cop. Sonic's very existence by nature has to put Tom on a different character arc, and his desire to prove he can be a big town cop is never addressed. that is bad storytelling made possible by not paying attention to the reality that Sonic's introduction to Tom's life brings. In other words, Sonic actually ruins Tom's character arc and ability to accurately pursue his desires. But you know what, Tom doesn't have a bad story or set up. With a little change here or there you can tell a cool family story about friendship, the importance of family, and get Tom to see he has what it takes.
    Just to give you an example to how I would tell a story for Tom, give him and his wife a kid who's a runner in school (nickname Sonic if you want to pinpoint how fast he is) and have them travelling to San Francisco for a national track meet. Now along the way, even starting in their small town, they get involved with a drug deal gone totally sideways and Tom has to balance family matters (his kid getting to and competing in the track meet) while having the opportunity to prove he can handle big town cop work. Along the way gets involved with a PI also investigating this crime ring who he bonds with throughout the movie and the two of them have each others back even as the FBI eventually gets involved because it turns out it was that big of a mess. Naturally his family gets involved but somehow or anther they manage to wrap things up in a happy ending and Tom now knows he can be small town cop, a big town cop, and even keep pace with the FBI. he knows his skills as a cop are good enough, and he also bonded deeper with his family and made a life long friend over the course of this movie who helped him see how much he has. And there you have the basis for a great story about Tom the small town cop who believes he can do more as a cop. You follow his character arc with his motivation and desire as a core component and at no point does that require alien transdimensional hedgehog pull off, nor does it benefit Sonic in anyway.
    So now, that get's us to Sonic and what type of movie I would tell with him.
    To begin, let's consider that this movie is supposed to be both an origin for Sonic himself as he is primarily known (the game version) and that it is also supposed to introduce new fans to the IP as it currently exists. You then also should find that Sonic's bizarre world is kind of hard to swallow so you are probably going to need an audience surrogate who is human, this is something I don't actually disagree with as I understand the need for it. However you have to make your audience surrogate relatable.
    So, let's start putting together a story now. I like using Indiana Jones as my foundation because I find there are plenty of parallels to Sonic (adventuring hero faces off against mad scientist who wants ancient artifact to rule the world, sounds familiar huh). First off we'll need to establish Sonic even before we worry about the believability of the world as he is the main character and the story is about him. To that we should take what we know about him from the games where according to the Japanese manuals he is already the most famous hedgehog in the world when we start and that him and Eggman also have been going at it since long before Sonic went to South Island to answer the inhabitants plea for help. From Sonic 2 we also know that Sonic is a pilot and has his own plane, the Tornado, and is a staunch adventurer with knowledge about ancient legends and civilizations. He is also a bit of a daredevil who has a strong sense of justice and prefers living life by his own rules. That's an awful lot to cover, but you also have to address that he is open to letting other follow him if thy can which is how Tails is able to establish his friendship with Sonic (this again justifies the need for a secondary protagonist for Sonic to interact with).
    Knowing where we have to get to with Sonic let's use an easter egg to get things started, but also lets go for a cohabitation world between anthros and humans so Sonic is not completely unprecedented in the world and our audience surrogate can interact with him as an actual person instead of an alien lifeform to help make him more believable (notice we're not going with like a real world creature for believable as a description but being someone you can actually talk to because it should be normal in the story so the audience believes that it is normal making believable without gimmicks). Now back to that easter egg, and Indiana Jones as our base inspiration (a successful Hollywood film by the way that is action, adventure, and comedy just like Sonic), we'll start the movie with an elderly gent who runs the ancient peoples and anthropology department of some famous university set in post space age tech era inspired from the real world time period between WWI and WWII (or the biplane era as I like to call it as I think about movies like The Mummy and Porco Rosso) who is going through the library and notices that dust has been kicked up all over the place and complains about that blasted hedgehog messing with his stuff again before deciding cucumber sandwich will calm his nerves. From here cut to a private hanger and airstrip where a private pilot finds Sonic sitting in the cockpit of one of his biplanes flicking through the books he's "borrowed" and have them call out Sonic for his love of adventure and exploring ancient overgrown and forgotten civilizations. Now you can have Sonic talk about what he loves about it such as the juxtaposition of manmade works being taken over by nature which he stoutly supports, testing his speed against the traps and dangers of the old ruins, and so on while superimposing this dialog over scenes of Sonic doing those very things. Now the pilot can comment on Sonic likely needing a plane and deciding that he'll just give Sonic the one he trained him to fly on just so he doesn't have to fly him anymore but warning him that he'll have to find his own mechanic (a hint of meeting Tails later on in the games). Sonic is grateful and soon has the plane painted red with his name on the sides and heads off for his next adventure.
    At this point we have a movie beginning and characters interacting with Sonic and also showing that he is part of the world at large as a natural element that just is (yeah we didn't touch on his speed but Sonic get's his name from his speed and it isn't a necessary element to break down to me), but the audience isn't feeling pulled in yet because Sonic is pretty aloof and despite being accepted in story we have a human bias that makes it difficult for most people to relate to a meter tall anthropomorphic blue hedgehog who flies planes and runs at the speed of sound. That means it's time to bring in our audience surrogate and expand the world a little. But what makes for a good audience surrogate. Obviously being human is a good first step to deal with that human bias problem from above, but there are so many people who are so different that you can't just slap any old human in. You have to consider your audience (young boys for Sonic plus a thirty year established audience) and also how they fit into the world to tie everything together. Well, lets go with those themes of friendship and family and take a character who has to learn them while also showing the good and bad of Sonic's love of freedom. For this, lets take an 18 year old loner who's been having family issues at home, finds out their friends aren't really their friends, and has made a mess with an intimate relationship because of all of their problems. Instead of trying to make things right, they are under a lot if emotional duress they decide to just get away from it all and join the military. But they want more freedom than a regular military allows for and joins the paramilitary peacekeeping corps. the Guardian Unit of Nations (G.U.N). There desire to get away and experience a sense of freedom ends up with them joining an artifact seek and collection team whose sole purpose is to find and collect artifacts that could endanger the world. They naturally have trust issues with their squad at first and that is their status quo going forward as we use a contrivance for the sake of the plot and send them on their first major mission to where Sonic just so happens to went to explore.
    Now that we have our audience surrogate who is young enough to be in over their head while also being relatable to a younger audience, and in a position that many adults can also understand, we need to bring in the Eggman. With Eggman I'm kind of partial to his Japanese name being both the name he is known as but also an alias to his western name of Robotnik. I also am a fan of Eggman having a disdain for G.U.N for the death of his grandfather and pretty much crippling the world's technological progress. That setup results in me having him starting the movie as a G.U.N scientist who specializes in the artifact division and after years of work proving the worth of his robots and ability to descipher the powers and abilities of ancient artifacts he has been allowed to take a team and go pursue one particularly dangerous one. Contrivances again, but this is a story so we need a few of them, puts him in charge of the audience surrogate's squad for going to the same place as Sonic.
    Moving the plot along and wrapping up this long meandering tirade, at the home of these ruins we join Sonic having a blast exploring the ruins that house the plot McGuffin and eventually finding said artifact. Sonic has no use for it and thinks it's cool just to have found but otherwise leaves it alone to go find other traps to test his speed against. meanwhile, as Eggman and the audience surrogate get to the ruins and discovers that the traps have already been tripped and are harmless Eggman betrays G.U.N revealing his plan for revenge against G.U.N by way of world conquest using the artifact for what they did to his grandfather and the world and sets his robots on the audience surrogate's team. They end up driven into the jungle where the audience surrogate's own attitude problems results in him being abandoned by his team. They figure they're doomed until they encounters Sonic. Pleading with Sonic to save him or at least deal with Eggman they end up just annoying Sonic who doesn't take what they are saying seriously and figures that the ruin's traps will defend the artifact and that the audience surrogate's team won't truly abandon them. Sonic decides to help out though when his own sense of justice gets set off by Eggman razing the forest and destroying the ruin to make sure that the G.U.N soldiers are properly dealt with. Sonic challenges Eggman alone at first, but knowing nothing about him the element of surprise does him only so much good before he gets bested by Eggman's robots. Believing Sonic bested, Eggman leaves on his own personal aircraft and Sonic is rescued by the audience surrogate who still needs help getting out of eth burning jungle and back to safety. Sonic figures that he will need help at least learning about Eggman so he can do better in his next encounter and pay the doc back for what he did to the jungle. The audience surrogate figures their squad would know more than them and they and Sonic track down and rescue the squad before departing the jungle to face down Eggman in the movie's climax. You could then wrap things up from by showing the audience surrogate going home and resolving things with their family and friends due to what they learnt from their encounter with Sonic while also cherishing their G.U.N family. Sonic meanwhile has saved eth world from Eggman and is enjoying the fame and recognition before heading off in search off his next adventure hoping it will be as exciting and great a learning experience as this one was. Lastly, Eggman having ousted his own identity and been thwarted plans revenge against Sonic as part of his world conquest schemes and vows to return again. Finally the credits roll and you can use them to show highlights of possible future encounters ending with a post credit scene of Sonic finding out about the troubles on South Island with a message inviting you to track down the original game.
    Anyway, that was a really long wall of text that was probably fairly superfluous for the most part, but I hope at the very least it helps you see that at least some of us have really, really, thought about why this doesn't work and what could work for us without disregarding what works for Hollywood. Indiana Jones has far more parallels to what Sonic is for a Hollywood movie and should have been the blueprint if veering away from the games rather than a buddy cop road trip where Sonic's presence actually hinders development through the characters' own desires and pursuing them.
     
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    The Tenth Doctor reacted to Blue Blood in Mario and Sonic at the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games   
    Phew. Zavok confirmed. I was worried everyone's favourite character wouldn't be in the game.
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    The Tenth Doctor got a reaction from DabigRG in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Gangsters Paradise is on Page 380)   
    Why the hell does he look like one of those Na'vi things? They look ugly enough, never mind made into a Sonic.
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    The Tenth Doctor got a reaction from Legendary Emerald in The Lara-Su Chronicles and Ken Penders topic - READ PAGE 164, POST 4096   
    If he wants to colour in his books, he needs to learn there is more than one colour shade. He's insulted inkers for years yet he has to be told that two colours aren't the same?
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    The Tenth Doctor got a reaction from Mr Silvia in The Lara-Su Chronicles and Ken Penders topic - READ PAGE 164, POST 4096   
    Ken, in my experience of printing shirts, its easier not to work with black. Do white, much easier to blend. Another thing is never put too much text on a shirt, can look cluttered, unless its the main focus (like a shirt I have of wibbly wobbly timey wimey).
    Also, why is Xero just photobombing the picture?
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    The Tenth Doctor reacted to Dr. Detective Mike in The Lara-Su Chronicles and Ken Penders topic - READ PAGE 164, POST 4096   
    You're probably right. That said, I can totally see him doing it on purpose because he thought it looked better this way.
    I can't put that past anyone who draws characters who look like this and thinks they look good.
    I'm in the middle of reviewing some of his early work for Archie and despite his art not being all that great there, it's amazing how much its turned to utter slop. He doesn't even realize it. He's putting it on a shirt! 
    I could put my Sonic art on a shirt and it'd probably sell better actually. 
    He's a writer who doesn't write anything and is busy only designing stuff. 
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    The Tenth Doctor got a reaction from Tylinos in The Lara-Su Chronicles and Ken Penders topic - READ PAGE 164, POST 4096   
    Ken, in my experience of printing shirts, its easier not to work with black. Do white, much easier to blend. Another thing is never put too much text on a shirt, can look cluttered, unless its the main focus (like a shirt I have of wibbly wobbly timey wimey).
    Also, why is Xero just photobombing the picture?
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    The Tenth Doctor got a reaction from horridus in The Lara-Su Chronicles and Ken Penders topic - READ PAGE 164, POST 4096   
    I'm sure Ken would try and say because she is at a point in her life where she could fall to the darkness blah blah blah. When in reality, Lara Su is a bit player in her own book.
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    The Tenth Doctor got a reaction from Legendary Emerald in The Lara-Su Chronicles and Ken Penders topic - READ PAGE 164, POST 4096   
    Ken, in my experience of printing shirts, its easier not to work with black. Do white, much easier to blend. Another thing is never put too much text on a shirt, can look cluttered, unless its the main focus (like a shirt I have of wibbly wobbly timey wimey).
    Also, why is Xero just photobombing the picture?
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    The Tenth Doctor got a reaction from amadeii in The Lara-Su Chronicles and Ken Penders topic - READ PAGE 164, POST 4096   
    I'm sure Ken would try and say because she is at a point in her life where she could fall to the darkness blah blah blah. When in reality, Lara Su is a bit player in her own book.
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    The Tenth Doctor got a reaction from amadeii in The Lara-Su Chronicles and Ken Penders topic - READ PAGE 164, POST 4096   
    Ken, in my experience of printing shirts, its easier not to work with black. Do white, much easier to blend. Another thing is never put too much text on a shirt, can look cluttered, unless its the main focus (like a shirt I have of wibbly wobbly timey wimey).
    Also, why is Xero just photobombing the picture?
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    The Tenth Doctor got a reaction from RobotnikHolmes in The Lara-Su Chronicles and Ken Penders topic - READ PAGE 164, POST 4096   
    Ken, in my experience of printing shirts, its easier not to work with black. Do white, much easier to blend. Another thing is never put too much text on a shirt, can look cluttered, unless its the main focus (like a shirt I have of wibbly wobbly timey wimey).
    Also, why is Xero just photobombing the picture?
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    The Tenth Doctor got a reaction from DaddlerTheDalek in The Lara-Su Chronicles and Ken Penders topic - READ PAGE 164, POST 4096   
    There was an Avengers comic called Endgame in the 70's I believe. Funny how they named it that, knowing that Ken would name his magnum opis that 20 years on. 
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    The Tenth Doctor got a reaction from DaddlerTheDalek in The Lara-Su Chronicles and Ken Penders topic - READ PAGE 164, POST 4096   
    Lets look at all the characters Ken hasn't used for years and use legal action. By his logic it'd work as he hasn't used about 80% of them in years.
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    The Tenth Doctor got a reaction from DaddlerTheDalek in Team Sonic Racing - Upcoming Sonic Racing Game   
    Caddicarus got a chance to play it, he gives his thoughts in a vlog style video. Really positive actually.
     
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    The Tenth Doctor reacted to Failinhearts in Failin's Reviews! [Youtube Series]   
    Cancelled my next vid. Please read the following tweet.
     
    Click the link for the whole list. Might post the whole script at a later date.
    The next full length video is Ninjago: Day of the Departed
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    The Tenth Doctor reacted to Diogenes in Sonic Live Action Movie Thread (Read OP for topic rules) "Gangsters Paradise is on Page 380)   
    Everyone has come to terms with the fact that that's what they tried to do.
    Most people have now come to terms with the fact that that was a bad idea.
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    The Tenth Doctor reacted to Badnik Mechanic in I'm Stepping Down From Writing At TSS!   
    Might as well make this public now. I was gonna post this in announcements but didn't want to be cheeky...
    So I joined TSS in March 2012 and have written nearly 600 articles for the site, both news and original material, which is quite a lot. And.... Shortly into March this year, I made the decision that I would step down from my position as writer for the site.
    I figured given how long I've been effectively one of the main faces who brings you the Sonic news I should post a bit of a goodbye and why I'm putting down my keyboard to pick up a... uh... Keyboard!
    Why are you going?
    Some of you know that last year my health took a major nose dive which hasn't gotten much better this year. So does this have anything to do with that? 
    Yes... But not in the way you think. Since I started having the health issues, I've tried to do some productive stuff to help me through it, first I made myself a small place on the internets which I really need to get back to doing at some point.
    But I then started to take my video making a bit more seriously, something which I'd wanted to do for a long time anyway but never really had a the time and the response has been quite incredible, far beyond anything I could have imagined and I'd really liked to dedicate a lot more time to it, especially since it lets me talk about games outside of Sonic and Sega which is also something I've wanted to do for a long time.
    And aside from releasing these completed projects, the process of making them is also making me a lot happier, far more than when I was just writing for TSS. So I feel it's the best for my health and... just the fact I'm doing something that a lot of others are also really enjoying if I focus on that full time.
    When are you turning red (Retired Rank)?

    NEVER! THERE'S ONLY SVEND TO GO AND THEN THE SITE IS MINE! MINE! MINE! AH-Hahahha!

    Well... Technically I'm already gone, I can't write for the site anymore, but I still have access to the staff area and something is being worked on which I've been dropping the odd input in so I imagine I'll wake up one day and find myself in the retirement castle with Flyboy Fox and all the other retired staff, I'll be sat in the corner working on videos, please visit and leave a muffin.. One with chocolate chips.
    But I've said I'll occasionally drop by for the odd guest article or help with a live-stream if they need a hand with something.
    Anything else?
    Not really, just like to thank all the wonderful people and friends I've met through my time writing on here, especially @Dreadknux for allowing me to write for so long without breaking anything (I'm still waiting for the money to fund my real life Death Egg).

    So I'm off to YouTube now to make videos, so feel free to subscribe to me there or follow me on twitter if you still enjoy telling me my opinion on Sonic is wrong! I'll still be a member here posting about the Sonikku and the Segagaga, but my new creative outlet where I make new content will be on YouTube and Twitter.
     So if you desperately miss my stuff or want to tell me it's 'wrong' I invite you to come along!

    Who is replacing you? Can they make nice sandwiches?
    I've not been involved in that conversation, but I think I know who my replacement is going to be and I hope you wish them all the very best. But I'll let them reveal that surprise in their own topic.
    Only I hope the reveal is something like this...
     
    But with my avatar on the hood, then when they lift it off it's their avatar.
    P.S.
    If you've made it this far, the moral of the story is @Dreadknux still hasn't funded my Death Egg!
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    The Tenth Doctor got a reaction from amadeii in The Lara-Su Chronicles and Ken Penders topic - READ PAGE 164, POST 4096   
    There was an Avengers comic called Endgame in the 70's I believe. Funny how they named it that, knowing that Ken would name his magnum opis that 20 years on. 
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    The Tenth Doctor got a reaction from horridus in The Lara-Su Chronicles and Ken Penders topic - READ PAGE 164, POST 4096   
    There was an Avengers comic called Endgame in the 70's I believe. Funny how they named it that, knowing that Ken would name his magnum opis that 20 years on. 
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    The Tenth Doctor got a reaction from MetalSkulkBane in The Lara-Su Chronicles and Ken Penders topic - READ PAGE 164, POST 4096   
    There was an Avengers comic called Endgame in the 70's I believe. Funny how they named it that, knowing that Ken would name his magnum opis that 20 years on. 
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    The Tenth Doctor got a reaction from Someguy in Do any of the non-male hedgehog characters have any impressive feats?   
    Team Chaotix did digging, found relevant info and shared the video message of Professor Gerald's plan in Shadow the Hedgehog, thus breaking Black Dooms control on Shadow. Yes. The Chaotix, saved the world. Hope they got payed extra.
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    The Tenth Doctor reacted to Badnik Mechanic in Team Sonic Racing - Upcoming Sonic Racing Game   
    Remember in the original ASR? How some fans tried to get an online lobby full of Big the Cats using a glitch?

    Well... I've been waiting nearly 9 years to do this lol
     
    Skip to 7:58 for when the madness starts... But we actually get organised at 12:00 and drive in full Big the Cat formation.
    This is followed by us all playing as Knuckles and exploring Boo's house.
     
    Also during this stream we found possibly the most obscure reference in the whole game. Skip to 1:12:40. I start to play the horns... Well... Sonic's horn is actually a reference to Sonic Spinball, it's part of the music used for the Sega chime when you start that game.
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    The Tenth Doctor got a reaction from FFWF in Team Sonic Racing - Upcoming Sonic Racing Game   
    So I watched a video of the last race and seen something that has been pissing me off with Sonic games for a while, but its here again.
     
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