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It's bad after the first arc

I like Futaba's arc. Madarame was okay.

Yep.

Yeah the first arc is pretty good but then it starts getting kind of boring and cartoony later on. Its a jarring contrast to say the least.

I've never really read other people's impressions of the story but the Kamoshida arc is far and away the best, in my opinion, for a lot of reasons. 

I'd still take it over P3 and P4's erriday.

I feel as though the Kamoshida arc best represents the main themes and appeal of the game. But Futaba deal with self loathing, grief, depression, suicidal thinking etc etc really hit home as well as someone who can relate to that stuff. Though if course it's not the same for everyone 

Idk, I liked the game beginning to end, although I'd say the weakest arc is Haru's. Not only is that palace a particularly painful experience, especially towards the end, but a lot of the stuff with Morgana is kinda shit.

The issue with Kamoshida is that the game builds him up too well. He gets the most buildup of all villains in the game, including the actual main villain, and he's the only one to really build a personal connection to the thieves because he wronged the (at the time) main members in different ways. He's the one villain in the whole game where you suffer direct consequences for each and every one of his actions.

The game peaked with Kamoshida, which is both a good and bad thing since while the game hooks you from the beginning, it never really lives up to the first arc ever. 

It's a rare case when a part of a game was TOO well written, because it overshadowed everything else about the game.

@Ryannumber1gamerGOD Okumuras palace was so bad. And I really didn't like how we went to the palace before seeing anything of the man himself. Definitely the weakest part of the game so far as I near the endgame 

The maze part at the end is the fucking worst

I just looked up a walk through for the maze part  I was done at that point I wanted It to be over with. The hunt for the Chief IDs long broke me at that point 

I hate how that palace has very little plot relevance til the literal tail end as well. So we start it off badly because Ryuji gets unfairly shat on and put in the wrong for calling Morgana useless, despite Morgana constantly calling him that for the majority of the game, a underwhelming villain, a badly designed palace, and to top it off, only plot relevant at the tail end.

Praying for Royal to fix these issues. 

You cant fix them without a complete rewrite even if you ignore how notoriously bad Atlus's additions to the stories in their rereleases are.

Damn I guess I'm switching teams now

I haven't played 5 but having played the others I can see where you're coming from. I suppose it does stop things from being too easy though. It'd be a cakewalk otherwise. 

To me it's fake difficulty 

As is the rule of SMT games,

use buffs noob

But you do need to protect yourself first and foremost, because you are the character with the most amount of abilities. And this isn't the first Persona game with this rule, so it's something to keep in mind.

Joker dying being an instant game over, plus the fact that the final two palaces are heavily RNG-favoured to the opponent is utter bullshit, and one of the biggest flaws I have with Persona 5. I ended up playing the whole game on Normal, and going back to Easy because I got really fucking sick of having to backtrack in the final palace because if it is so RNG heavy, and you also aren't allowed to go back to get money, so if you're low on items, tough luck.

That was annoying but the fact that party members still gain exp outside of battle kinda balanced it out for me tho. Im used to that not being the case in RPGs 

if you spent even a little amount of time in the fusion engine, then Joker should be rocking a handful of personas that either resist or outright null almost all damage.

My Joker was borderline broken by the last few palaces.

...how much time is "a little time"

People say that about various side things in other RPGs and it's usually several hours of extra nonsense

The time is dependent on how good a job you do capturing different personas.

If you are diligent in acquiring new personas as you enter new areas then you can summon them from your compendium at any point in the future. Once you start filling in the catalog, its not an issue of time, but rather $$$.

If you never recruit new personas, and just stick to the ones your running until they hit their eventual cap... then it requires backtracking to find and obtain the missing personas for your desired fusions.

With a small army to choose from at the end of the game, you can fuse, and then fuse the fusions to makes some insane beasts. Since you choose what skills the next generation will inherit, a Gen 3 fusion is all it takes to inherit enough nulls/resists to be unstoppable.

Ah, I see

I haven't played a Persona game before so I'll take your word for it

Technically speaking he has already won a league. Too bad it's the Orange Islands one so nobody cares.

I mean, wouldn't the Alola league also enter on that "Nobody Cares" spectrum considering how it's just being kickstarted and is little more than a humble local festivity? (that said, it might get bigger with time and being the first one to win it will be a big deal as the years go by)

Just using game logic btw, haven't watched the anime in a while.

I forever won't care because its not the Kalos league 

yes im still mad

@Ferno you’re still mad? I’m furious.