Soniman

Hmmm... No subtext here! No sirie!

Almost every track in Sonic Genesis (Star Light Zone notwithstanding)

this made me remember the classic remix of radical highway. i forgot to add that in the previous status below, that track rules. easily the best thing from gens 3DS.

Maybe I'm missing something, but that actually doesn't sound too bad.

Having said that, just about everything on Sonic Chronicles.

anyway, to answer the question: i wouldn't call it bad, but i'm underwhelmed by planet wisp classic. it's surprisingly muted / lacking compared to the other classic remixes. i also feel it's a missed opportunity of a "classic" remix in the sense of having something based on the sonic simulator "chiptune" version of planet wisp (which i adore). i will give it some credit in the sense that it's kinda like a "bad future" remix of planet wisp given the different tone.

all that aside, one of the tropical resort remixes in gens 3DS was just a tempo sped-up version of the original IIRC, so maybe that one's the worst in terms of songs that aren't just bastardized covers like on sonic 1 gba and chronicles

the original white jungle >>>>>>>>>> this shit. drowning out the song with ShTH guitars, and turning the drums WAYYY down are just bad calls. and that Forces bee synth chorus is just a big fat nooooooooononono No

Anything from Chronicles

Planet Wisps classic is one that comes to mind

Modern RH I feel could've worked if they threw it in as a brief intersection in the middle of Classic RH's version

I will never forgive Akon for ruining Sweet Sweet Sweet

Huh, the remixer of the first one, Circuit Freq, is actually another name for Julien-K (This Machine; Waking Up), without their vocalist. Even as a huge fan of them, I must admit this and their For True Story Remix are two of their weakest tracks.

It's hard to beat @Indigo Rush 's candidate of Akon Remix of Sweet Sweet Sweet, but DnB remix of Sonic Boom is a misleading track dishonorable to the original

In fact, it's even arguable if this is a DnB (Drum & Bass) track, it's much closer to Dubstep. I personally tolerate and even enjoy some DnB, but personally hate Dubstep 🤮.

There are probably many worse and obscure ones, but it's been a while I don't adventure myself out of the established Sonic tracks.

I actually like the white jungle remix in forces.

But this:

....track that sega farted out just ruins stardust speedway. They throwed in some dying ducks amd called it a day it sounds like.

It might be because the original White Jungle never did too much for me (though I do like it) but I love that Forces remix. I blasted that in my car with my friend and goddamn was it good.

Worst remix though? It might be Blue Ridge Zone from Chronicles. I literally laughed aloud when I first heard it. It was like a record scratch moment.

SoNiC WaS NeVeR GoOd

People who shit on muh boi, SatAM Sonic. But I'm one of those oddballs who has overanalyzed his character and really enjoys him in the show (even if season 2 nerfed him hard and gave him the idiot ball more times than they'd like).

But that's just a personal gripe. I'm sure there are others that are worse takes.

this is going to sound like a shitpost but it's genuinely that peremy video where he says sonic heroes has good gameplay

Any complaint about "pandering".

I'm with Wraith on that one. Same for Adventure DX being superior to the DC version just because there's more stuff in it.

I forgot who did it, but someone made a video basically saying that Sonic 4 isn't actually bad because you can homing attack.

People that swear 06 is a better game than Forces.

I never heard of this Heroes video but now I need to find it, then I can stop only relying on the J Reviews and Jebtube reviews for positive validation 😳

I've seen the idea that Sonic Forces was bad because of Sonic Colors, and like, I can't even imagine the mental gymnastics required to make that take.

Anyway mine probably is the one where 06 gets a pass in the Fandom because "it tried and it was ambitious" like I'm willing to agree with that for games like Unleashed because the ambition yielded positive dividends in the end product even of it wasn't perfect but like every attempt 06 made with it was such a disaster and largely unappealing I just can't get into it like everyone else can. Besides some stuff with Shadow and the music there really isn't anything to get into because you know everything it does was done better in games before and after it 

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Anyway mine probably is the one where 06 gets a pass in the Fandom because "it tried and it was ambitious"

I almost said this. Was Sonic 06 even all that ambitious? The first level is a throwback to Emerald Coast, automated whale chase scene included.

I made a mistake, it was not premy it was "knight of the wind". I just thought it was premy cause it was a bad video
 

Oy, are you guys talking shit about my boy Heroes? >={

I disagree with the general notion that the writing is somehow more important than gameplay. I don't know why people get so caught up in that. Like I get it, I love the writing when its good too and I want to see the characters be themselves really badly now, but I'm worried mostly about gameplay because of how Forces turned out... Every Forces review spends way too little time on how busted the gameplay was.

I guess I don’t agree with whenever a sonic game is bad it should get a free pass because “It took a chance and did something new” especially if we’re the ones spending our money on said product. 

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I disagree with the general notion that the writing is somehow more important than gameplay. I don't know why people get so caught up in that. Like I get it, I love the writing when its good too and I want to see the characters be themselves really badly now, but I'm worried mostly about gameplay because of how Forces turned out... Every Forces review spends way too little time on how busted the gameplay was.

This is another big one for me. There's way too much Sonic content on how the writing is bad when so little time playing Sonic is actually spent watching cutscenes.

That comics across ARCHIE-IDW have more or less been my anchor for good sonic stories and characterization for 15 years so I'm way less miffed when a game story is shit like a lot of people like yeah it'd be nice if the writing was semi competent but the games are in such a dire state I'll take a few Baldy nose hairs for lit game play again first 

Yeah, like Wraith said, cutscenes take up so little time. Lost World had a pretty badly executed (but great on paper!) story, but I really don't let that affect my opinion on the game because I wasn't watching cutscenes the entire time. Yes, I will absolutely appreciate and remember a better story way more, but gameplay comes first. I wouldn't say Mario Odyssey is a bad game at all because of its gameplay being amazing, even if its story is pretty big baby garbage lol.

Oh, and Lost World is completely fine, not particularly great but not bad by any stretch of the margin. Completely boring, fine, contracted nintendo console release lmao.

The ambition thing gets me, too. Anything can be interpreted as ambitious with the right framing or bias, but even if the game had a lot going for it or the dev team really believed in what they were making, it shouldn't be the go-to excuse for a bad end result. For me there's only so many situations where I can say to myself "well, it had a lot of potential" while suffering through an annoying and unfun game.

Everything has potential. Soon people will learn that no developer goes out of their way to make a bad game but sometimes shit happens. 

Most disagreeable opinion: Forces soundtrack is good.

Maybe if the only instrument you've ever heard in your life is cheap synths then maybe. But compared to the classics, adventures, even the good boost games, it reflects the whole "made in 4 hours with only $2" vibe of the rest of the game. Especially the clown who chose the instruments for the Classic stages.

@BadBehavior

I almost entirely agree. Largely it sucks, but Fist Bump, Infinite, and basically all of the Episode Shadow OST is great.

@charmsb I wouldn't even say Fist Bump is good. I know people love it cos it's cheesy, but you can only get so cheesy before you start to actually stink. And it just doesn't sound good to me, like Ohtani just mushed a bunch of different melodies together and called it a day.

Infinite is great tho. Reminds me of Julien-K's work in the best way.

Audacity is what I've heard the most. My wife uses Filmora for her stuff, but I don't know how that program works, probably worth looking into though. 

I used to use audacity but due to recent shenanigans of that program adding spyware I have to find something else. 
 

I know @Jovahexeon Jax Joranvexeon and his group uses OBS

I thought I heard Audacity like others have said. Pretty sure it's free.

Actually there is dark audacity that you can use. It’s not affiliated with the official one and people migrated to that. 

Regular Audacity has worked fine for me for years.

To my understanding Skyward Sword’s problem was the core gameplay but the switch port fixed most of the issues with it and make it more streamlined.

As with 3D World is was just bad timing. Cause we got a mainline Mario game every year since 2009 up to that point. 

i would happily take a 3D world sequel as the next 3D mario

and i actually like odyssey a lot, i'm completely out of the loop with those who felt it was disappointing

I'd actually put good money on this one being longer. probably still forgettable though

#AtleastRangersWillBeBetterThanForces

Kinda hope Zippo's prediction of a new modern 2d game is true, even though he's probably talking out of his ass.

It's really going to suck if/when Rangers ends up being bad.

At which point I'd imagine the whole "at least back in the 2000s we were constantly getting new stuff" argument will gain a fuck ton more traction.

Well it's been said since forces that the longer Dev times between games don't even matter since the games still come out bad vs Unleashed/Colors/Gens coming out in a three year span and all of them were well received or have been well received with time at least more then what came after on top of all the spin off titles still coming out during that time as well.

There's literally no incentive for them to try anymore; Sonic will sell regardless of the content and they're kind of tired of being slammed by people. 

Yay for bland mediocrity. 

It's been pretty clear for a while now that, at least among hardcore fans, the dreamcast era is more popular than the modern one. It's also been over a decade since the modern era began, so it hardly means anything anymore. Sonic Adventure isn't coming back.

And really, its only a matter of time before the Modern era starts reaching the same status as the Dreamcast era. Except the only difference is that Sega seem to have no interest in preserving anything from that era unlike the Classic era, so it will slowly fade into obscurity outside of the  niche hardcore fanbase of the Dreamcast era. 

we're already at that point, and sonic colors isn't exactly generating as much excitement as sonic adventure. similarly, SA1-2 didn't exactly set the world on fire like the classics. not everything runs on a cycle.

Well those are all different circumstances respectively, but I do think its telling that Sega are choosing to start this new decade off with a remaster of Colors, specifically citing its reception from 2010. Even when they ported SA1 and SA2 to Steam, they never really gave it any fanfare whatsoever. 

Rangers will more than likely follow in the footsteps established by Colors, albeit without the Boost this time. I'm sure it will be fine. Probably not take the world by storm or anything, but will get some good will back. Sure as fuck won't be what I want out of the series though, can bet your ass on that. 

Based on the leaks it sounds absolutely nothing like Colors along with Iizuka talking it up as a new foundation for the series going forward  I'll at least say there won't be to much influence. I just think they ported Colors because it's such an easy thing to do and will get back in peoples good graces again along with Origins, basically "get remember when we were good?" to make people more receptive to the new thing 

@Kuzu I think there's a difference in the context of releases. Colors Ultimate is being released at a time when modernized remasters/remakes of older popular games is a major trend nowadays, and have arguably superceded merely re-releasing older games to digital storefronts. (It doesn't help that Xbox is the only one actively striving for strong BC regarding current console platforms.). Ultimate is also the first re-release for Colors in general since it was first published in 2010.

Conversely, I'd say re-releasing older games to digital storefronts was more regularly accepted at the start of the 2010s as opposed to modern remakes (and I'd say "remasters" weren't much of a thing by that point yet); and both Adventures had the advantage of having received ports to the GC (and PC) earlier in the 2000s.