McGroose

The Hedgehog Engine actually started production before Unleashed. It started development back in 2005, back when Sonic 2006 was still in development.

As for Forces, the report goes that one year was spent developing the Hedgehog Engine 2, then the next two years were conceptual development/prototyping. These three years were handled by director/lead designer Kishimoto and a small team. The fourth and final year of development was when the game entered full production.

So how much time did Unleash have for it's in-game production then? Did they only start beginning production of Unleashed once the Hedgehog Engine was done, so around late 06 to early 07?

@McGroose Late response, but I believe the Hedgehog Engine was still being developed in tandem with Unleashed, which started production after Sonic 2006's release.

nah you're being too generous on forces, even for my standards. it legit deserves a 5 dude.

If I were to rate them Sonic Colors would probably get a 6 and Forces would get like a 4, maybe worse. Colors and Unleashed I mostly agree with. 

I'd probably just start gifting people it at this point.

I’m really hoping if they do PC ports of sonic games they’ll start doing console ones as well. 

The modding community helps out alot in it's replay value, not that the vanilla game ain't super replayable as is. Several different characters, levels and more that change up what's already there is a big plus for me.

It's up there with A Hat in Time as my most replayed 3D platformers these days

I recently installed it on my laptop, and I pop the game open for the odd playthrough about as much as I do with Mania for a quick romp now. Wasn't always like this, as I've always found everything before 2.2 to be boring, but the amount of fluidity the new level design, slopes, and automation (read: springs) really feels like the classic games brought fully to life in a 3D space at long last, and I couldn't be happier with the end result. Actual comfort junk food in video game format after a hard days work.

Bonus points for being a game that completely lacks a default homing attack, and has enemies literally paper-thin, yet against those odds features bounce-jumping in it's level design that feels infinitely more satisfying to pull off than in a 2D space. Those are the classic platforming mechanics that I am 100% here for.

2.2 was one heck of an update, it was the first time SRB2 really felt like a complete game to me. It's been so fun and interesting seeing how far the game has come after all these years.

and they still have quite a bit to add too. iirc there's still 2 more zones, 1 more act for Red Mountain, and a Super Sonic boss 

There's two more acts for Red Volcano, since it lacks a boss fight currently.

Hey, DRM has feelings too.

Nah, butts and donkeys provide useful and necessary services to the world - DRM doesn't.

Sonic 3 AIR, with mods factored in.

You can mod Completes features into AIR

There's nothing bad about the game at all, to be frank - the professional reviews are absolutely atrocious. The IGN review is a bunch of vague bullshit saying "oh well these issues are present because they were present in the original..." without even stating what these issues are, and it's essentially giving it shit for not being on the same scale as Triple A, $60 remakes. 

As for Gamespot's review, that one is outright laughable, not only trying to claim it's right next to games such as Ride to Hell Retribution, but the reviewer in question goes to downright IGN Unleashed levels of stupidity at points. 

Cherry is the only default character that can run, Adam can do a dash, but the Streets of Rage 3 type of controls is only avaiable with the Streets of Rage 3 characters that take quite a while to unlock. And even then, rolling up/down makes the character drop the weapon they're holding which is BS.

But of course if you dared mention this to other people, you were just a hater.

Hate 'em too, but they do what they set out to do, so there's no reason for them to stop doing it.

it's ridiculous because if, say a liberal and a conservative are debating on a new show, one perosn will upload the clip saying "SJW Libtard DESTROYED" while someone else will upload the exact same video "Racist Homophobe OBLITERATED" because whichever one the uploader sides with is the winner of the argument

To be fair, cloud arcade gaming where vendors(?) can earn money outside of working hours would be kinda big in Japan.

But yeah, it's still not as big as that PS5 article.

 If arcades still have any real business in Japan, enough to make it an equal to the console and mobile game departments, then there's at least some reason to equate it to PS5. Though from another stand point, I'm confused why a service meant for businesses to improve revenue compares itself to an actual product made for consumers.

It’s a cool idea, some arcade machines have made rudimentary versions of the idea unique to their machines only, but now Sega is expanding upon it by basically making a Steam for arcades.

However, even in the Japanese arcade business, I’m not sure how it challenges the PS5? It’s cool, but not "revolutionary", especially with the first thing I mentioned.

Yeah, I would find that extremely hard to believe.

You mean it's big as the BS5

Legit, I can't imagine much video game news being bigger than a new console reveal, especially from a company like Sega. What could they possibly have to share that's even remotely comparable?

The PS1 had an absurd amount of games and general heavy hitters, especially from third parties.

The N64 had Nintendo games and that's it.

The Saturn had cult classics and...yeah. Not even a single Sonic game. Basically no mainstream appeal in the West.

Good marketing and good exclusives carried the Sega Saturn in Japan. Same didn't happen for western audiences. Hell, most of the games never even came to the west, so there was a smaller library of games to choose from.

also, what DIDN'T the ps1 have. gran turismo, metal gear solid, resident evil, castlevania, and more, holy shit.

CD's were a lot cheaper than cart games, piracy was wide spread, targeted an older demographic and many more things that combined to make it so successful.

3rd parties were also getting tired of Nintendo’s bullshit(Square Soft being the most noticeable one)