McGroose

Well, sucks to be youI love Modern's design.

The thing with redesigns is that every almost every platforming protagonist has gone through a redesign at some point. Mario, Rayman, Klonoa, they all went through a bunch of different designs before they finally settled with a consistent one.

The difference is that none of these games made nearly as big a deal out of it as Sonic did.

Yeah at least the fan wars over which design style people prefer wouldn't be a thing. And I say that as somebody who loves the Classic. Modern... and even parts of the Boom designs.

@Depression KongThe thing is I don't think Sonic ever did make a big deal of it. It was more us fans blowing it way out of proportion. Then again I was like 5 or 6 when Adventure came out, so all I remember thinking at the time is, "Yay more Sonic!" so my memories of how Sega handled it are...nonexistent.

@Maxtiis It wasn't a big deal until they made a big deal about it with Sonic 4. There's the elephant in the room fact about how it used the newer designs despite being a continuation about the older games. But it was also the first game where Sega actually acknowledged there were different groups who liked different styles of Sonic (though this was more in reference to the gameplay) and that they were going to try and start catering to those groups.

Then Generations came along and wrote the divide in stone.

@YeowI can't believe I forgot about Generations. That's what happens when I multitask while reading posts on a forum I guess.

I'd still argue that Sega verified the distinction because we already had. The problem herein lies with the fact that they've continued to push it since then.

@Maxtiis Fans wouldn't had complained about those distinctions if Sega didn't make those distinctions in the first place. Nobody was exactly telling them back in 1998 to make a game that not only changed the character designs, but also retool the direction of the series into something significantly different than what came before.

The latter of which brings me to another point about the whole split between classic era and modern eras. If Sonic Adventure was just a shift in artstyle that would be one thing. But Adventure and the later games that followed marked a clear shift in paradigm for the series as a whole--the gameplay focus was different, the narrative/tone was different, the non-character aesthetics and musical style was different, I could go on.

So now the designs don't just mark a difference in visual design, they also represent a complete era or paradigm of their own. The split is obvious enough with classic Sonic and modern Sonic, but now even modern Sonic has its own internal split between those who prefer "Adventure/Dreamcast Sonic" and "Boost/Unleashed/Modern Sonic"--even when the base character design is literally based off the same template in contrast to classic Sonic.

Apparently for a month. I don't know where the rule for it is, but I remember reading that we're suppose to keep it up for a good month after release. Just to give enough people enough time to experience the game themselves without having to fear about using this place (even though the game is roughly only 3 hours long but hey)

It'll be interesting to see if people here care as much about this rule when Forces comes out though...

It's been a month for console, but not PC, which is really the version most players will go for. So once PC's been out for a month, go to town.

That's pretty much the yardstick I'm using as well, though it's technically not official.  But indeed, the PC version means we're going to be using spoiler tags just a little longer.

I still feel like Green Hill's Forces theme doesn't fit at all. It sounds like something from a night stage, and a bonus act at that rather than a real level.

well i sincerely hope they change the music. it sounds like someone took a song they thought sounded like classic sonic music and then fed it through a meat grinder

I don't get how it sounds like a night stage, but I'm definitely getting bonus act vibes. I'm not a big fan.

I really don't understand why they're showing off a boss battle instead of the actual level. It's hardly a particularly good boss.

I dunno, the melody just makes me think of something an anime girl would sing over an anime ending theme with lots of night scenery going on or something.

Classic Sonic's GH level was more shit than the boss.