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  1. Can I get the rundown on why Sonic 2020 or Omen or whatever it's called now is suddenly bad?

    Shit looks pretty well made as far as fan games go 

    1. Dejimon11


      They have a link to their patreon which is what’s funding the game.

    2. Harkofthewaa


      To put it simply, they're asking for money on Pateron. And not in a kosher way, as they have things like demos and screenshots locked behind Pateron tiers. And that's no good.

    3. Wraith


      The developers got in some hot water for creating a patreon and asking for donations. They were offering access to a discord that had the demo in it IE they were  technically charging for it. The larger fangame/Sonic community took this as a danger to the fangame scene as a whole as Sega might see this and lose their tolerance for such things and take down fangames.

      It's been a year since then. Sega didn't even give the game a cursory glance and the developers turned the patreon into a way to donate to their original projects. I'm not exactly sure why this discussion is still going.

    4. StaticMania


      I was assuming that the demos were at least directly on the patreon itself, otherwise why were people even bothering?

      Putting a demo on discord and getting access to a discord via patreon is way too common for this to be worth complaining about.

    5. Dejimon11


      @Wraith so is this another Sonic smackdown situation oooooor? 

    6. Wraith


      I don't remember enough about the Sonic Smackdown situation to say honestly

    7. Diogenes


      i don't have any hands on experience with it, but aside from the patreon thing i have seen a fair amount of criticism of the game itself. the main issues i've seen being, the homing attack seems questionably programmed, the plane level sucks, the boss fights are poorly designed, it's poorly optimized, and it does a bad job of melding/balancing adventure and boost gameplay. personally looking in from the outside i don't see much to get excited about; while there's clearly a lot of effort put into it, it seems more flash than substance. they've taken a do-it-all engine and dropped some elaborately rendered but mediocre-to-poor levels into it, alongside some questionable new moves and gimmicks, and still falling into most of the same design pitfalls as the official games.

    8. Supah Berry

      Supah Berry

      I'd say it wasn't sudden, it did kinda get less than positive reactions on these parts from the start. It just another one of those style-over-substance flavored games that evoke the same tired song and dance from target echo chambers in the fanbase. It's graphics and full use of cutscenes is are superb, but the actual meat-and-potatoes game suffers the same pitfalls other 3d fangames do. It fancies itself a professional fangame, yet the amateur look of it doesn't seem to match up what it these developers claim to achieve. Especially for what they intend to earn money to make.

      It also features the Russian Shadow from the Sonic Zombies saga except this game is not a parody. (Have not look up if the that and all the voices have improved)



      Smackdown also gave downloaders the option to donate money to support them. Twitter canceled it to hell and back, so now that I believe is gone

    9. Thigolf


      I'm pretty sure the Patreon they have up doesn't even list Sonic Omens at all so I don't think Sega could do something even if they wanted to.

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