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buhhhhhhh superman is so LAME because he's too OP, batman is more badass and he's more human and relatable because he's so badass, superman is overpowered and boring, durrrr
I remember reading an excerpt from an issue online once, where there was a woman who had given up on life, and was going to jump off of a building. A crowd had gathered, and police were on the scene trying to talk her down.
Superman arrives, investigating the scene, then flying up to talk to the woman, introducing each other, talking about her life and why she felt like doing this, and tries convincing her to reconsider her choices.
The woman says she'd like the time to think for a while, and Superman lets her, staying there and waiting. Day becomes sunset, and sunset becomes night. Whenever the woman felt uncomfortable, like having a police spotlight shining in her face, Superman shot it down. He let the woman have the time to herself to think things over.
After a night passes, the woman finally speaks up, having thought about what to do. She wasn't going to jump. So she and Superman talk for a while, about life in general, and about Superman's life. The pressures of life can be too much to take at times, and Superman can relate. Despite that, he looks for the courage and reason in himself to continue living on. Finally convinced, the woman decides to step down, with Superman carrying her back to the ground.
It's not the powers that make Superman, it's his ideals. Even if he's completely alien and different to humanity, he finds it within himself to continue fighting for what he knows as home, for he has accepted humanity, and humanity accepted him. It's that in which Superman becomes a true superhero.
I've always viewed Superman as the Mario of super hero comics, really good and the original, but sometimes people view him as boring because he's the original, vanilla super hero instead of all other heroes who came after him being "Its superman but ______ this time!" Just like how maybe people see Sonic as more interesting than mario because "It's mario but fast this time!" etc.
Superman is at his best when he's kinda corny, but mainfly from his idea of being good is. His parents are pretty old fashion and corny so he would be too. Superman is a father to pretty much everyone I like to think. Heck he says "Son" a lot too. He cares for both the good and bad people. I like how when written well he holds back and tries to be gentle with people. He's not a heavy quipster like Spider-Man. He's not a criminal beater like Batman. He's out to help everyone be good. See the good in themselves, etc. Usually with humans he tries to be more like a father figure.
With aliens though it kinda depends. But usually only the true evils like Mongul, Darkseid, or Doomsday don't get that courtesy. But others I like how he tries to talk people down from fighting. He's kinda like a psychiatrist, a dad, and a hero all in one to everyone. Which is why when they make him edgy or evil I think just takes away from him. It's why I get real sick of Injustice Superman or Evil Supermen after a while. Superman is like Santa Claus. He should be someone heart warming that comes with a gentle presence and aura to all mankind.
That's my take on him at least.
The idea that batman was the relatable one always struck me as laughable. The guy's intelligence and money are literally stand-ins for Superman's "OP" list of powers and are just as effective. He's beaten Superman repeatedly.
On top of that, Batman doesn't even have a day job he has to manage like Clark does. Every relationship he has now is with some hot supervillainess or something for maximum angst. Like...this character straight up doesn't deal with normal people shit. He's just sad. That's it.
He's straight up the power fantasy. Taking out your feelings on the bad people. Superman is the human.
Reminds me of a video I watched on YouTube of a guy sharing his issues with Injustice. One of them being the tired aspect of Batman versus Superman and Superman often being portrayed as the bad guy and Batman being the underdog. The David to Superman's Goliath.
I've been told that the sling that David used to kill Goliath was actually the strongest weapon at the time and would've easily killed anyone. Just like with Batman and Superman, Goliath (And Superman.) are the actual underdogs.
Batman is always prepared. That's what makes him so dangerous. He also explains how Batman would be more suited for the role as "bad guy" in this cliched setup. Though he doesn't kill, he does get pretty close to the edge sometimes.
The thing is, a fair amount of the time he is written as a vanilla, basic, op hero; which is boring af. A lot of writers take that boy scout side of him and turn it up to 11 while simultaneously making him the only answer to the big threat. I feel as though there's enough of these cases out there where people who are unlucky enough to have only seen these portrayals of him (like anyone who's only seen dceu films) have a fair reason to think that of him.
Of course there are countless other examples of him being done right which is why he's the icon that he is.
Then there's Batman where, from what I've seen, he's rarely ever actually boring. He's been written poorly a fair number of times, but one seems to have to actively try to make him boring. Goes back to the tired "Be good, be bad. But don't be boring" mentality in entertainment. With Superman, it seems to be easy to forget about the actual character in there.
@Strickerx5 Doesn't really help that writing limitations for him is extraordinarily challenging, since what constitutes as a weak spot could wildly vary from story to story.
It's also why I find All Might to be a pretty good case of a Superman styled character with genuine meaningful weaknesses while still being a justifiably inspiring character.
Probably why I was happy with Dark Knights Metal, so Batman can be the one who goes nuts. People sometimes focus too much on his power rather than his humanity. I mean I do like a good Superman brawl, but his humanity is what makes you warm up to him.
He's honestly at his worst if he's either written as Batman's stooge, obviously wrong compared to Batman, or manically evil. Heck between the two, Batman is the more likely I'd see going evil anyways. He's pretty much just one step away from becoming a villain.
I tend to like Batman more because it's harder to fuck up Batman, but a good Superman story can really make you love the guy. Though the 52 garbage made him a Super Douche. Writing for people like Superman, Wonder Woman, etc can be hard considering they're just really friggen powerful. Compared to Marvel where a lot of there characters are mid tier. With Wonder Woman though you do have a whole pantheon you can use to give her some challenge.
Superman has the obvious weaknesses but they're played up so often even people got sick of all the Kryptonite this and that. You can find that shit somehow as easy as breathing air. His stories though are more about what he does with his power more than if he can beat someone up. Being careful not to break everyone. How he can't save everyone despite his godly power, and how far he should really use it. The boundaries on what he can do are also polarizing when it comes to international affairs.