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CrownSlayer’s Shadow

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  1. *USB with important files doesn’t work*

    OMFG!!!!!!!

    *Finds out I made literally 5 back-ups on other storage devices a year ago* 


    ...ya know, I really underestimate my foresight. A LOT.
     

    Now I’m wondering if I can get the USB fixed, cuz I think it has more to do with the plug being defective.

  2. Because those same people never put any effort to actually try. And looking back on those millions of topics, most of them at worst say it holds no value out of spite for those who actually do. It’s no different from how this fandom usually engages topics from whether Shadow as a character is needed, to the Sonic’s Shitty Friends Syndrome, up to the petty spats against the Freedom Fighters of recent—it’s the standard MO of making up excuses over why something is useless, and then ignoring any ideas that could even remotely prove otherwise. It’s become so obvious at this point that it’s predictable.
  3. Looking back at my old posts from almost ten years ago is fucking FUN!

    Not even lying!

  4. It was never a hinderance when they were actually using it and telling stories involving it. I’m surprised people who think Knuckles characterization has been suffering over the years keep thinking that the object he gets his title from is holding him back by not being involved over the same period of time. Honestly, how do people still even make this correlation? It’s like saying Eggman using his technology is holding his potential.
  5. Wait...there was a Kirby Fighter one?

    1. StaticMania

      StaticMania

      YESH...

      It came out shortly after Triple Deluxe.

  6. Their original idea for Shadow. Honestly not sure how things would be over time if they went along with it, but I can’t say I’d like it better than how he currently looks.
  7. You’d be laughing even more if this forum didn’t have a good chunk of itself wiped out back in 2009, because you’d be seeing much of the exact same thing back then too.
  8. I know I’m a bit late on the subject, but the fact that Penders even thinks this would flow well is ridiculous even for him honestly. He should’ve known that wouldn’t work long before IDW even got the license given that Archie was rebooted specifically to avoid this very mess of his. The Freedom Fighters need to be re-introduced as new characters to go along with what IDW is establishing, and there is no way not to avoid that—introducing them as old characters, and in the manner he wants them, which is no doubt before they were rebooted, will not work and I’m sure Penders isn’t delusional enough not to know that...he just doesn’t care, plain and simple. And even if the Freedom Fighters were to be made main characters, they wouldn’t stay main characters as they would have to rotate that to other characters for the next arc after having their moment due to IDW’s cast structure being more fluid. So they’ll be sharing the spotlight even more than they did in Archie.
  9. I have it by memory. Physiology - simply put, what a character looks like and what they can physically do. Sonic’s a blue hedgehog that can run super Sonic, Tails is an orange twin tailed fox and child prodigies, Shadow is a black and red hedgehog that can warp space and time, and that’s just keeping it brief. A character with only just one dimension is the equivalent of all the unnamed characters you see in Forces civilians or the unnamed background characters you see in IDW. Or just Lanolin. Sociology - essentially how the character lives, social status, their background, origins, etc. Knuckles lives alone in Angel Island guarding a powerful massive gemstone that has been part of his ancestral past for thousands of years, Eggman often travels the world in giant flying battleships or his Egg Mobile threatening the world with world domination, Shadow is a loner who’s past involves surviving a massacre that killed his sister figure, the Rouge is a government spy and treasure hunter who seeks all of the world’s gems. This second dimension would essentially be most of the named case, but some are less detailed than others. Characters like Shadow and Knuckles have a fully fleshed our backstory, others are hardly more detailed than a few sentences only serving to giving them simple motives of doing something—and you can see here where characters like Knuckles and Shadow can garner such high popularity while characters like Rouge aren’t as prominent by comparison. You can also see this is the area that the Blue Blur himself is somewhat lacking. All of this builds into (or rather is supposed to build into) the third dimension, their Psychology, or simply put what goes on in the character’s mind and why. Knuckles living alone and guarding that powerful gem on his island makes him naturally distrusting of those like Rouge who land on his turf, as they would seek to steal it; his lack of living with people also lead him to be guilible and easy for someone like Eggman to trick in the past since he hasn’t been socialized to many people. Shadow’s loss of things he held dear 50 years ago by the world he was so curious of, a life he can’t get back would lead him on a quest of revenge against that very world he feels responsible. This third dimension is less well-connected in current Sonic characters than others, and where a lot of them seem to be going through motions for the sake of motions. Sure you know Rouge is a treasure hunter that collects gems, but you don’t really know what for and why beyond their beauty—does she sell them for any kind of funds or is she simply just a collector? Heck, her angle as a government spy is more fleshed out here than her treasure hunting interests, as it plays into her character being one of stealth and infiltration. This is also where characters like Shadow stand out the absolute most compared to majority of this cast, and is also the very dimension the Deadly Six lack beyond being a group of technopaths founded by Master Zik. You can also see why I’m personally so anal about Knuckles, the Master Emerald, and Angel Island, because he could shine even more exploring this area and learning more about his past up until now, like they did in SA1. When you look as these three dimensions then look at the Sonic cast, you really begin to see how much of a mess things are and where they’re really missing things. A well rounded character has a stable footing all three dimensions that shapes them to the audience, and is essentially how these characters can draw their audience to who they are. But when dimensions are missing and poorly developed, then that’s where we start seeing these characters as cardboard stock cliches that far mirror far too much of the generic tropes for the sake of appearances rather than being relatable. And beyond their cool powers, or lack thereof, how do you connect to characters when you don’t really grasp their actions? What really makes that character stand out from the others among them that make them who they are and what they believe in? And you really get into, you also see where the frustration comes when characters act outside of what they do now compared to what they’ve done before, such as Tails randomly throwing a fit at Sonic practically out of nowhere in Lost Worlds, or not even putting up a fight in Forces; or the cast being nothing more than glorified cheerleaders in Generations; or why aliens in Shadow’s background feels so patchwork and...well, alienating, among other things. That’s really just a summary of things, but if you want rounded multi-dimensional characters, then these are dimensions to look into, as this is what three dimensional characters are, how they become relatable, and where you give them depth. And it’s also here where you can see the difference between the praise in works like the comics and scorn for the more recent characterizations in the games.
  10. Yes, but those basic traits pointed out are just but one dimension of each character. Most people don’t understand enough to know what makes a character’s second or third dimension, which probably contributes somewhat to Sega’s intent on characterization to market them.
  11. Then that’s gonna be your first mistake towards any potential of her being brought back, and you’ll forever have problems with the character going forward. There’s different ways of making a character work properly, and not all of them will be able to have everything you desire. We should’ve learned that the first time Archie was rebooted before being cancelled and replaced by IDW, because that was when Sally was given a fresh new take on her character, and that was by intention—she was never going to be the way she was in the past, and needed to adapt to the present. Similar to how Sonic was modified come his first actual major 3D game with SA1 and gradually changed over time while still (somewhat) keeping the bare minimum of what he’s known for as a character.
  12. It’s not like children’s media has never explored Nazi symbolism before, dude. This stuff isn’t new—we’ve been doing it for decades ever since Nazi’s were even a thing. It’s time we stop pretending what Sonic’s doing is something shocking and inappropriate in children’s fiction, especially when this current comic just finished an arc dealing with an apocalypse from a straight up bio weapon.
  13. It’s about the only time Sonic will get married and settle down in an official work. Hurray for SonicXSally! But yeah, I don’t particularly need it in the games even if Sally were to become adapted into them. Though I did like the perspective of them having a relationship, one with ups and downs before becoming more healthy, as well as the perspective of “what if Eggman was defeated for good” when Ian took the reins. If they do decide to bring back Sally, the bare minimum of her character is still enough to flesh out in a new direction while still keeping her familiar.
  14. Wha...what the fuck? I know 2020 has been weird, but this is really pushing it. This sounds too much like a conspiracy theory. ...then again, I said the same thing about Trump sending federal troops to antagonize cities, and even that turned out to be true.
  15. If you really want her back, your best bet would be to demand her to appear in IDW Sonic. And I would actually like to see what she could do in a more game focused setting along with her whole species. Not like we don’t have aliens already anyway.
  16. Anything not written by Penders was somewhat good. But that’s not really for this topic...
  17. Okay, now I’m watching videos about a guy watering his pet tarantulas.

    This quarantine has seriously done some shit to my boredom...

    1. Rusty Spy

      Rusty Spy

      I really wish Youtube would stop recommending that video to me

    2. CrownSlayer’s Shadow

      CrownSlayer’s Shadow

      Oh you got it too, huh?

  18. Hindsight really hates Penders with a passion. Makes me wonder how things would be were Bollers the one in charge of things instead.
  19. Plus, that same logic is why Pontac and Graff have such a poor reputation when it comes to writing for the games while Flynn is more well received by contrast due to knowing the games and characters more intimately.
  20. Except, again, it’s not a plothole. Kuzu already gave the definition of what a plothole is, and a character failing to act on something and suffering consequences from that is, by definition, not a plothole. And there is nothing subjective about it regardless of anyone’s opinion on the matter—that Shadow logically could’ve saved Maria doesn’t make it a plothole anymore than the fact that he didn’t save her, because that’s literally not how that works no matter how you go about it. Like this isn’t rocket science. If put another way, a plothole is the mistake of the writer, not the character—and no, twisting that to mean the writer intentionally made the character make a mistake to move the story along doesn’t make it a plothole either.
  21. Not really. And I’d advise you to look up what the word subjective means because Shadow failing to save Maria is anything but. EDIT: and if you spent less time trying to be right for the sake of being right and more on actually learning these things you’d understand how to respond to this better.
  22. A plothole isn’t subjective. Stick to the subject... These terms actually have strict definitions, and don’t mean whatever you want them to mean based on how you or I feel about them. So no.
  23. No, it’s an outright fact. What you’re talking about with Shadow isn’t a plothole. It’s a personal failure that drives his character forward. Yeah, so do a number of my favorites. That doesn’t make the errors in plots forgivable. I got a better idea. How about you pick up this book (or literally any book on storytelling—this is just a fraction of my personal library on the subject), read it thoroughly all the way through, and actually learn what it means to actually write characters and make a story, because it’s already obvious you have no idea how this stuff works if this is your rebuttal.
  24. They don’t, and the reason why is because they’re not the same thing. Mistakes and errors on part of the narrative (I.e. plotholes) causes problems with the overall story being told, and that is inherently a bad thing. That doesn’t equate to characters making mistakes within said narrative. Characters who make mistakes do so because they’re flawed—that’s perfectly fine as perfect characters aren’t relatable. But plot holes in general are things that should be avoided whenever possible, and literally any decent writer worth their prose will tell you that.
  25. Except the literal definition of a plothole implies it’s a bad thing. Shadow failing to save Maria from dying during the ARK Raid isn’t a plothole, that’s a personal failure on part of the character’s own action or inaction that develops Shadow into the character he is during the course of SA2’s story. Yes he could’ve done all sorts of things to save her, but he didn’t because he simply wasn’t given that opportunity, and that made him vengeful enough to wipe out all life on the planet. This is no different from Spider-Man failing to save Gwen Stacy, or why Superman isn’t able to solve all of Batman or Wonder Woman’s problems. A plothole is an outright error in the story that literally makes no sense in the narrative or series’s logic that had been established—basically, it’s the story somehow telling you that 2+2=Fish out of no where and telling us to accept it for no reason when it had already established 2+2=4. An example of this being Blaze the Cat somehow being on the future version of Earth/Sonic’s World/whatever during the course of Sonic 06 with no explanation when it was already established that she exists in the Sol dimension completely separate from that—a subject which I wouldn’t doubt still creates debates to this day on the net.
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