Thigolf

Big monke energy right there.
If cinemas reopen by the time of release i'm definetly gonna see it.

I know that there’s spark the electric jester haven’t played it yet but most people seem to like it.

Sparks the Electric Jester is something like Kirby mixed with Classic Sonic.

I suppose there's Dustforce, It's more Megaman X, but the focus is on performance based on speed/momentum that is very Sonic. 

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about Spark. Will take a look at Dustforce, too. Thanks!

Will it really hurt them in the long run tho? Most of the time it seems to me gamers have the memory and attention span of a goldfish.

I mean, who knows? Sometimes people forget almost instantly, but the whole Don Mattrick "Always online" debacle, for example, was still a sticking point years into the generation, despite also being removed pretty quickly. Only time will tell, I suppose.

...wait, they don't?

Pretty sure there isn't, no. We get merch through other means, but many items that make it to the US or Japan through the Pokemon Center stores just don't see the light over here.

Finally! I was wondering when this would pop up!

YES BOY

I fully support the notion of emulation. Its really sad that we can't preserve the history of gaming because of some corporation wants to either ignore what progress we made or want to make a quick buck out of it or some other BS out there.

It is pretty frustrating that these companies hate piracy but don't offer any alternatives to emulation. But what can you do? 😕

Pokemon Gameboy All Stars: Generations 1 and 2

Available till March 31st

They already did the first two gens on 3DS, I would legitimately pay again to get them on a Switch with all their perks.

But considering how much Nintendo hates selling legacy content now I'm not confident it'll be done right

Always wondered what happened to that subseries. I played a little of Cobi's Journey as a kid though I think I didn't understand it and had a difficult time getting into it despite loving the art. And of course there's DQV. Would honestly have loved to have seen the monster recruiting incorporated into XI, since I think it would actually work within the narrative and add to the whole "Darkspawn" confusion.

Context?

https://www.sonicstadium.org/2021/01/jakks-mecha-sonic-giant-eggman-robot-and-sonic-diorama-set-revealed-for-may-2021/

I think I recall last night having a dream reading people complaining about why a real Death Egg Robot toy has not yet been made. I guess there's a premonition part in my mind after all.

Worth checking out the fangames, the creators have certainly upped their game since Mania.

I don't want a lot from Sonic

There is just one thing I need

I don't care about the graphics

Or even if his eyes are green

I just want to roll around

Physics and the speed of sound

Make my wish come true

SEGA all I want for Sonic... Is literally anything better than the half baked broken shit you always put out jesus Christ why is Mania the exception and not the rule

Eh, Mania ain't THAT great. I just want a good game, period, but I definitely can't get hyped for another Mania.

Inb4 Star Wars in Kingdom Hearts as well.

And a pinch of the inventiveness of BK and the deep, warm atmosphere of Rayman. It’s too bad we have only one so far...

Isn't this like only the first time X-Men and Avengers have been re-released since Disney aquired Marvel though?

I don't remember X-Men Arcade ever releasing since its 360/PS3 emulated release and Captain America Arcade has never been re-released outside of Arcades.

I thought they were working on this game called vertebreaker or something?

@AWild No.1 washed up gamer

No, Vertebreaker was being developed by Stealth (Headcannon). He did a kickstarter which didn't succeed so he made PierPressure instead which is available on Steam.

Was worried after 14 but it looks real nice. 

"You're very special, we love you"
He's like the alcoholic dad trying to explain why he's walking out

"You know... stuff. And it's new. It's new stuff."

"You know... stuff. And it's new. It's new stuff."

Everyone asks "Where's Sonic" but nobody asks "How's Sonic?"

da faq you mean where is he he's right there under the logo now go home

Why is sonic?

Oh yes, because let's add another confusing name to the pile.

So we have the Xbox One X

The Xbox Series X

The Xbox Series S

and the Xbox Series XS

Gee, doesn't that sound a bit... XS-IVE

People were saying this as a joke months ago

if this is a thing I'm gonna laugh hysterically.

Also they're not making One X's anymore, those are discontinued. They are still manufacturing One S tho, so that doesn't help in the slightest.

I remember how this was one of the first pieces of art we ever saw of the game. I loved it. It gave off a nice sense of scale and gave me hope that they were really going to build out the locales and atmosphere of this game like they did with Unleashed.

I couldn't have been further off the mark in hindsight if I had tried. They don't even explain the damn thing. Such a waste.

From the jump I had concerns about locales and tropes that were more uninspired and gamey than the series had dipped into before, but I was confident Sonic Team could take, say, a generic forest or desert level and liven it up. 

What I expected from this game I eventually ended up getting...from Super Mario Odyssey.

@Wraith

Then later came casino forest in Forces. They listened!!😏

Would espio still be a ninja?

Sonic Team clearly don't care for the personalities and ties to Knuckles that Chaotix established for them, so they'd go through some retcon for certain. Bringing back the Sonic band concept in some way would be really interesting.

Espio isn't said to be a ninja in the Japanese Chaotix manual, but "combat training" is mentioned as one of his hobbies.

Espio's occupation is stated to be a private detective in the Japanese Chaotix manual, so it wasn't something completely made up for at least the modern incarnation of Espio. Espio's investigating skills are refrenced again in the backstory for Sonic the Fighters as he is the one that leaked information about the Death Egg II to Sonic & Tails.

Charmy's profile is the most interesting because while it outright says that "he won't shut up" it also says that "he is quite a moody person and mature with his words and actions." which doesn't sound like the Charmy we've known since Sonic Heroes to me.

Translated character profiles from the Japanese Chaotix manual.

Sonic the Fighters backstory.

I see where the "Vector found God" meme came from now.

i'd play a sonic warriors but please keep forces as far from it as possible

I made a similar status update about this like 2 weeks ago and no one batted an eye.

@AWild No.1 washed up gamer Welcome to SSMB lol

Think we'll get a new classic Sonic game soon...but made by Sonic Team or someone else instead of Team Mania.

Dems the breaks. 

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Think we'll get a new classic Sonic game soon...but made by Sonic Team or someone else instead of Team Mania.

I agree and I hate the thought

It's not like Sonic Team made 2D games are always bad, they're just not gonna be what people expect...or want, after Sonic Mania. 

Kind of a shame the Mania team don't really seem interested in doing another game. 

The problem is, the Classic formula lives and dies on its physics and the use of them. Without that, you get the most basic platformer imaginable with one jump button and nothing else, with the only outstanding feature being "It's a bit faster than other platformers"

And seeing how Forces' Classic stages (and, to a certain extent, Generations') turned out, I don't have faith. I'll be gladly proven wrong, I'd absolutely love to, but I'm not holding my breath at all.

I've been thinking about that lately, and I'm starting to feel like the obsession over physics is a bit too narrowminded? It's not like Classic in Generations was unpopular, and the Advance and Rush games were decently popular too. 

I'm not denying Mania's success at all, or the work that the team put into the game. But have we reached the point where only a specific set of people can make "proper" 2D Sonic games now, and anything less is "inferior". 

Because even then, I don't think Whitehead's team want to be making 2D Sonic games for the rest of their life, especially they've formed their own studio, which makes me assume that they wanna branch out a bit. 

it's not like sonic physics are some complex, arcane mystery, any half-decent team should be able to get a decent handle on them with a bit of study. i mean, there's no shortage of fans who have managed to cobble together something close enough, in both 2d and 3d. it's just that sonic team is incompetent, or apathetic, or can't afford to take the time to do things right, or maybe all three.

Well that's just it; it took Whitehead's team years to properly reverse engineer the classic titles iirc. 

Sonic Team are an official developer; they have budgets, and deadlines that fangame developers don't really have. Fan game developers can spend as much time and money as they need to to make sure their games are good because most of them are just passion projects, while official developers have to get a game out in a specified amount of time with a limited budget. 

So yea, I think a lot of the "problems" in official 2D products  just stem from the typical shit that devs have to face. Even the Mania team had to concede and make a bunch of throwback stages when they wanted to make an all original game. 

It's easy to just say that Sonic Team are shit and leave it alone, but I think there's a lot more going on behind the scenes than any of us realize. You can have all of the time and budget in the world, doesn't mean a thing if the work conditions are crap, and we know for a fact that Sonic games have notoriously bad development phases. 

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Well that's just it; it took Whitehead's team years to properly reverse engineer the classic titles iirc. 

i mean when the point is to reverse engineer things to the extent that you can remake the games from the ground up, yeah, that takes a lot of time and effort. but getting the gist of it, enough that you can build a good game on the same principles? not quite as hard.

I'm not saying only certain people can make proper 2D Sonic games. I'm saying I'm very  selective when it comes to Classic Sonic games. I love the Rush games to death, but they aren't Classic games, they work very differently from them.

Again, if they get a group that gets what makes Classic Classic, be my guest. I just don't want another trite husk that acts like it's a classic experience like Forces was. It doesn't even have to be peak level design like Mania, just get it right and don't flub it.

Like I said, most people liked Generations for what it was despite being very different from the actual 2D games. 

I feel like Forces gets worse rep than it does because it's coming right off the heels of Mania; it cannibalized itself basically. 

If we got something that's about what Generations did, I think most people would be satisfied. 

Sonic Mania lives and dies as a mere Forces tie-in. It was in Sonic Team's interest to pitch off a mere distraction from their mainline games off to one who they already have contact with, and Taxman and company were the lucky ones to make a Classic Sonic. Luck is all there is to it. They could've easily phone Dimps back in for a new modern game, but they wanted a classic game, and Sonic 4 was a no-no, and Taxman just so happened to be their next best option.

In the end, Mania's and it's generally regarded as a great idea, so where does it go from there? Why, where all other great Sonic ideas go, of course:

Happy accidents don't occur twice.

Whitehead and co were the ones who pitched to them, it wasn't Sonic Team who got them in there. 

yea, I think the idea to make Mania into a Forces tie in only came about after they were pitched the idea.