StriCNYN3

That's pretty sick, dude. Love the movement.

i mean he clearly didn't actually disintegrate considering they brought him back. to me sonic's line sounds like they were trying to write around a reference to death (even though the game does talk about death elsewhere) without being specific about the cause, and the flash was shadow de-transforming, representing his death because it would've been inappropriate to show the direct cause. there's a couple other lines talking about shadow struggling to maintain his super form, so the one about "disappearing" feels like a weird outlier.

Well, Shadow didn't disintegrate because Sonic Heroes simply retconned some things around to make the game be what it needed to be haha. 

I mean Sonic literally says if he goes on for too long, he's going to disappear, not revert back to base. That shouldn't stop Super Sonic from saving Shadow if that was the intent of the death scene. And the in-game dialogue paints a picture of Shadow going way over the top to prove Maria his worth, and Sonic starts to worry about his mental state and power before what eventually happens by the end of the game where Sonic could only find one of Shadow's bracelets.  I don't see how that line's an outlier when it fits within the rest of the context.

What I would like to find though is the japanese dialogue for this translated. That's been a total bitch for me to find lately. Trying to see if there's even more clarification there.

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I mean Sonic literally says if he goes on for too long, he's going to disappear, not revert back to base. That shouldn't stop Super Sonic from saving Shadow if that was the intent of the death scene.

there are also lines where shadow says he can't change into his super form (which makes more sense as a mistranslation of not being able to maintain it than anything to do with disintegrating) and sonic telling him his super form, specifically, won't last. and the point of the death scene was for shadow to die (or at least to "die"), so sonic was never going to save him anyway. personally i'm not that moved by the idea that, technically, it should've been possible for sonic to save him; more and more i've come to feel that the dramatic effect of a scene is more important than perfectly adhering to physics or logic. and even if you need a logical reason for it i don't think it's hard to find one; they warp the ark, sonic goes with, shadow doesn't because his power's fading and he's losing control, shadow's already gone by the time sonic realizes.

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And the in-game dialogue paints a picture of Shadow going way over the top to prove Maria his worth, and Sonic starts to worry about his mental state and power ...

that much fits just fine with the idea of shadow exhausting himself and de-transforming, though. and the bracelet's always been a little weird but i don't think the implication that sonic flew around space offscreen and found it or something makes it work any better.

Yea, I've  known about that "Can't change back into his super form" mistranslation haha. That line in particular was why I wanted to make sure the "extraneous Super form usage = disappearing" dialogue also held true in Japanese, which I would assume so.

But I honestly don't get your take on this though and why you feel this needs to be left for interpretation when the game is telling you how everything went down. I don't see the difference in the game telling you that you will lose your super form beforehand while also it telling you  you will disappear from Super form overuse. Sonic clearly made the distinction of Shadow risking disintegration because he's over exerting his form way longer than it should be possible. Every other instances, it was about reverting back to base because of low ring energy. You can hear it in Shadow's voice how tired he is compared to Sonic.

Regarding the 2nd paragraph, how does it not make sense to you? If Shadow simply went back to base, then how would Sonic only find his bracelet? It would obviously still be on Shadow's person. Shadow disintegrating makes the whole ordeal make way more sense, because it shows that Sonic did look for Shadow but was nowhere to be found but his bracelet because Sonic himself warned him about disintegrating. I mean that seems pretty cut and dry to me.

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But I honestly don't get your take on this though and why you feel this need's to be left for interpretation when the game is telling you how everything went down.

it's a single awkwardly worded line in a series that's no stranger to questionable translation referring to something that's never been so much as hinted at either before or since, and assuming it to be true doesn't really add or clarify anything over other interpretations.

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Regarding the 2nd paragraph, how does it not make sense to you? If Shadow simply went back to base, then how would Sonic only find his bracelet?

the bracelet got warped with sonic and the ark but the rest of him didn't? maybe? it's awkward, but again i chalk it up to being more symbolic than literal. "he didn't make it, here's the proof". how specifically sonic got his hands on it isn't the point. and you've gotta assume things we're never actually shown either way, so.

Why is it an outlier to you is what I don't get, though. They have to create lore somewhere for us to understand what is happening to these characters, right? Well that last boss fight and the dialogue between everyone was exactly where we learned that you can die from super form over usage. Makes sense since the last story is usually the only time you even get to see Super Forms, let alone learn more lore about them. This is the same game that created Chaos Control, fake emeralds, and G.U,N.. I really don't understand this "Assuming to be true" stance tbh. It's literally said in game. What more do you want (other than the Japanese translation lol)? I provided the evidence where you're just saying "we should just leave it to interpretation"...? That doesn't make sense. 

On the 2nd paragraph, Well, that to me sounds like you're implementing your own head canon than what the game is actually explaining. It literally tells you in game why Sonic couldn't find Shadow. Sonic said himself that he would disappear. What is so hard about that? Of course Shadow would be the only one to disappear and not his "clothes" because his clothes aren't the ones using chaos energy. Shadow himself is going super, so he disappears while his bracelet and shoes (unless they're built onto him) get left behind.

And the master race Smash game remains un-dethroned.

Same way you'd do any image

I just usually post the image link and let the magic happen

(checks it out in my own region) Yeah, you're right. You get more for Knack than Gears of War: UE.

Ah... I think I might know why and this is a hunch. It's not rare, obscure Japanese made game and its not a Nintendo game but family focused games tend to be worth more. So stuff like Lego games, Crash and Spyro, Sonic, Marvel superhero games and even some racing games are worth more to a store even if there are plenty of copies when compared to your Uncharteds, Assassin Creeds or anything that gets a M rating where there's plenty of copies but not as much demand past its first few years so they drop like a rock. There are exceptions of course such as when a Call of Duty might rise in price if it is on Xbox One backwards compatibility, most Rockstar games usually have some value and even though kids play on them, soccer games apart from the latest ones have very little value.

At least its not the 360 ones where the Gears of War series are worth as much as a soccer game.

why are you surprised

knack is a masta' peece

That's interesting to note @Mr Loopone I'd just figured it being, you know, a disaster and all, and it being a launch title would play a huger role in its value compared to the other games I had. It was pretty much the $2 equivalent to my Sunset Overdrive, Watch Dogs and Gears of War combined haha. 

Guess you always can count on Knack

He basically rebranded another machine that just had a bunch of emulators and ROMs installed on it. It's going to be hilarious when he gets sued.

He's getting sued already, right? Either way, totally hilarious.

Almost. Nintendo basically went "Yeaaaah about that..." and got straight to warning him with them taking potential legal action.

What a funny year for gaming this has been.

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The fact these directors say it's their "clear vision" with full on conviction is what kills me the most.

would...you rather it not be?

Yea. I wish they had another vision entirely than what they managed to scrounge around with this one. A vision that resembles close to the source material. Because as of now, I'm hearing way more about this cop and his livelihood than anything sonic related.

Give it a chance. It could be better than expected. 

The city was already destroyed for the same reason the forest was already casino-fied.

Because they had the assets from Modern Sonic's levels and didn't want to make new ones that actually made more sense in the context of the story.

Yea. They should've known that just removing the background fight wasn't going to be enough to really sell that Omega alone was the one destroying the entire city in that little time frame... But that's what happens when not much thought and effort is put into place unfortunately.

Sonic Mania Introduction Manual (Clean Scans) https://imgur.com/a/feKHs

Wth I spent 40 years looking for this thing haha, but thanks man =)

no subbed version out yet. watched it in japanese here: https://www.thereportertimes.com/entertainment/dragon-ball-super-episode-109-spoilers-air-date-promo/

Ah figures it's late and not out yet. Still gonna hold out til there's a sub, but thanks man.

They'll start popping up any time now, it was almost an hour ago so...

Yea, Hopefully. Every site now is just getting fixed from traffic overload. This episode must've been really good if that's the case.

I remember it took me a while to get on there as well.

Hmm, so it's not the case that these mods just forgot about me and it really does just takes this long? Oh my lord... I guess I can wait the full decade then to see if anything changes... 

No... but it sure is the most pushy invention ever.

Considering that it restarts my computer my force for an update, especially during times when I'm working on long projects. 

So yes, yes it is.

Works fine for me. You just gotta assert dominance and turn off automatic updates and such.

See, I couldn't even reply to these in a timely manner because of this thing, haha. (Currently my Ram is skyrocketing to the moon for just full screening a Youtube video and blue screening me the minute I look at my pc funny) 

I've heard that Windows 10 is significantly worse for laptops, which is why I'm thinking i'm having so much trouble. Trouble like my mouse pad disabling from time to time, loosing my desktop background, frequent updates without consent (where would go to disable that, Indigo Rush?), crashing, etc.

Ugh....At least my previous pc had an excuse to be monstrosity, because it was an Acer product (unless there's something about Lenovos I don't know about).... I wish there was a simple solution to all of this.

What's up?

I'm trying to change my avatar to a my colored version, but for some reason, it won't let me upload it, but it does this one just fine, no matter what size i ut it on.

Ah yes, I see the problem. Well, I see the picture show up as text saying "StriCNYN3's Photo", anyway.