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  1. The quote I am quoting is attempting to dismiss an objection to a parallel you made as reading too much into the text to justify an argument; basically just because you don't want those objections to be made. You attempted to back that up with this additional bit: The obvious problem is that fandoms, and their ability to overthink the works they are fans of to bend them to their personal interpretations and experiences, are not at all a new occurrence. It's also not a defense of the argument to say others think the same thing. The Sonic fandom can be loaded with LBGT people for all I know or care for the purposes of this thread. No matter how much people want to find solace in Shadow's in-game persecution and distrust for... *checks notes* being a bio weapon that tried to blow up the world multiple times... as being relatable to their struggles, Akito is still perfectly free to call that a stretch to link it to the real life situation of someone simply trying to live their life with their minority status (whatever that may be) and the persecution they face for doing so. Whether I agree with Akito or not, you absolutely are wrong for telling her that she shouldn't debate you on the matter of your interpretations and explanations thereof. It's not even a specific problem of the Sonic fanbase, in spite of things like overwrought discussions about how offensive hammers are to the very tenets of feminism or how Sonic always being incorruptibly purely pure proves he has tons of layers to his personality. Just a couple weeks ago Kotaku ran an article about how an Overwatch group felt Blizzard betrayed them for giving D.Va a school DLC outfit. Why? Because those people had forced their interpretation of her character as actually being representation of their Korean identity; and Blizzard giving her a schoolgirl outfit means they were (only now, apparently) sexualizing her. And that's fine. Absolutely. They're perfectly free to take issue with that, especially when Blizzard likes to give lip service to that sort of thing and fully brings it on themselves when they go against that. But I'm still able to note, regardless of how they feel about the character, that D.Va was always a character so "Korean" that she has Japanese romanizations on the side of her mecha and has a backstory that conveniently would only require changing location names to completely change her heritage to be identical to any number of plucky girl characters from any number of mecha anime of the past 20 years; and was so much of a haven from the boogeyman of character sexualization that her default outfit is an Evangelion plugsuit dipped in Easter paint and NASCAR sponsors; and that those people have hitched their wagon so much on a character in a hero shooter made by a publisher who just a few months ago showed that the extent of their importance on cultural representation stops when the Chinese government tells them to stop. Hell, fucking half the stuff on TV Tropes, a site with thousands of members that is treated as a primary source for various works at times, seems like it was forced in to fit along with whatever narrative they've internalized about a piece of media. Here you go: https://www.cesdb.com/west-point-bridge-designer.html Use that. I could write a long ass book on the amount of things you've tried chase moderators out of discussions with because trying to argue with you is seemingly inherently something that "reflects poorly on moderation."
  2. I guess we can shut the thread down then.
  3. The best entertainment you can get for free is to visit TV Tropes pages of people who were accused of sexual crimes and watch the people who maintain the pages try to carry on as if things are business as usual on them.

    1. Soniman


      That's when you go into the YMMV section 

    2. Wraith


      they took down onision's page

    3. Miragnarok


      Especially cases where it's correct, like Harvey Weinstein, John Kricfalusi, Jared Fogle, etc.

  4. Something that breaks the constraints the game had operated under to that point. This can be something like infinite ammo and higher health that GTA games give you that allow you to come back to the game at any point and just dick around in it for a bit; but an even better example is something where removing limitations allows substantially altered gameplay like Spyro 2 (in that case infinite cannon flame breath) and doesn't even require much work on the developer's part. Even if it's a game you truly love with lots of replay value, to put the time into getting 100% could mean a substantial amount of grind; so I generally don't think a new level or whatever is really much of anything if it's substantially the same as the game you've already been playing.
  5. Naughty Dog made Crash on behalf of Universal (now Activision). Naughty Dog made Jak and Daxter on behalf of Sony. Spyro is the same way. Insomniac made Spyro for Universal. Insomniac made Ratchet and Clank for Sony. The former two were only on the PSX because the N64 such a joke for third parties that they'd rather even support the Saturn (hence why in the following generation Spyro and Crash were immediately multiplatform). The latter two were on PS2 because Sony actively funded them.
  6. Yeah, the actual alternative is you can take a break from this thread instead of this tone policing shit you're trying to pull at everyone else. You want to blow everyone off and talk shit about people taking issue with it, go do it on Twitter or something.
  7. You mean Smash 4, which wasn't trying to sell characters to people in advance? Forgive me if I don't find it relevant to a discussion about literally exactly that. People have been complaining, justified or not, about the choices in the pass since it started. Not just the characters like with 4, but specifically that the way they were sold to them means that they were on the hook for them even if they sucked (which, congratulations, Nintendo fans. Welcome to the previous console generation). That will affect whether they will line up to pay for a second one. It has happened with other games before, unless the implication is supposed to be that Smash fans specifically are too stupid to learn their lesson the first time when other fans of other companies who have been doing season passes far longer are not. To say nothing if people start thinking that Nintendo are including DLC characters in Smash for the same reason that Sony included characters in PASBR, but fixated on Fire Emblem for God knows what reason.
  8. Writing off all of the future DLC because of this is a bit much, yes. Writing off buying into another Fighter's Pass when the last entry was phoned in and/or deliberately antagonistic seems much less so. I don't think it's outrageous to think that efforts to try to get that sweet season pass money a second time around may have been seriously hampered by this Direct.
  9. Watches stream for 30 seconds Ah, yes. Figures. Closes stream
  10. "It's very disrespectful that people keep requesting that Sega just port the Taxman versions instead of adding random stuff to this other unnecessary version."


    Never change Era.


    1. Blue Blood

      Blue Blood

      Step 1. Take the most feature complete version of the games, built to run natively on a pretty much any piece of current hardware.

      Step 2 (optional). Add cool new features.

      Step 3. Release it on pretty much any piece of current hardware.

    2. Sean


      Sega is the dumbest company ever

    3. Your Vest Friend

      Your Vest Friend

      Maybe there's just something about the way the Taxman remakes were done that SEGA would rather have M2 make a definitive version as a port instead? 

      I dunno, just spitballing. I mean it's clear M2's stuff will become the definitive versions. 

    4. Thigolf


      Sonic 1 AGES wasn't the definitive version of S1 so why do you assume the AGES version of S2 will be

    5. TheOcelot


      Only releasing the SEGA Ages version on Switch (and not on PS4, Steam & Xbox1 consoles) is even dumber.

    6. Blue Blood

      Blue Blood

      M2's versions are emulations, subject to many of the hardware limitations of the originals, including a locked 4:3 aspect ratio, slowdown and whatever other bugs they don't bother to fix. I can't look at any version of Sonic 2 that still has an entire row of bugged out pixels constantly along the bottom of the screen in Emerald Hill and call it "definitive". 

      EDIT: Oh wait, jokes on me right there because apparently M2 did fix that glitch specifically for the 3D version. I wonder how they did it though, and if the problem will crop up again for the AGES version. Not that there isn't a slew of other little bugs that should have been fixed over the past 25+ years.

    7. Sean


      Did they ever fix the spin dash not damaging enemies in Sonic 1 when you're charging it up

    8. Blue Blood

      Blue Blood

      Nope. That's still in the Switch version 

    9. Sean
    10. Blue Blood

      Blue Blood

      I don't want to infer that M2 are lazy, because they do some ports and emulations. The S1 spindash in particular though... They didn't implement it correctly to begin with and haven't gotten around to correcting.

    11. Sean


      They're probably also not going to put in Tails' Sonic 3 flight into Sonic 2 because of course they didn't in the 3DS version

    12. Tracker_TD


      M2's Sonic ports are bizarre weaknesses in their lineup, given usually they're the best of the best.

      Maybe it's because compared to some of the other games they do, there isn't as die-hard a community around those specific games in Japan, but it is puzzling - especially stuff like the Sonic 1 spindash bug, which I can't believe they didn't catch. Either way, I still go back to M2's version of 1 now purely on the basis of the Drop Dash, and I feel like having the Mega Play version on offer is nicely suited to handheld play given its shorter length. But I feel like the reason for M2's version is more consistency than anything, and I do wish they'd just release the TaxStealth versions somehow. 


    13. TheOcelot
    14. Tornado



      Oh wait, jokes on me right there because apparently M2 did fix that glitch specifically for the 3D version. I wonder how they did it though, and if the problem will crop up again for the AGES version.

      Sonic Team themselves fixed it with Sonic 2 and Knuckles, so M2 possibly just copied that.

  11. Sega would probably require Sonic Team's awful version though.
  12. You know what's truly, stupefyingly astounding about this? It's only been two months. Game Freak knew they were doing this. If they had fucking said, from the fucking start, "We have a great expansion planned that unfortunately will not be ready by launch that will have all this stuff and include most of the missing content, for free!;" most of the ire directed at them and the increasingly desperate sounding bullshit that they dumped out over the last three months before release to justify the design decision would have automatically been null. Not all, of course, and there's still a chance that this will be as half assed as the rest of their output (nevermind drawing even more ire to the yearly release schedule) but they absolutely would not have been under the same microscope as the fall wore on. That's how awful they are at this. I think only Polyphony Digital are worse. Even as it is they managed to screw this up, because now it's spreading like that "now you have to pay $30 to get Pokémon cut from SwSh" instead of what the paid portion actually entails.
    1. Supah Berry
    2. Milo
    3. Your Vest Friend

      Your Vest Friend

      He deserves that for not realising buying all those toys is no effort when you have magic/soldiers and you're on the king's tab. 

  13. Toy Story 4 is kinda... Not that good...




    1. Tornado


      Rebooting Bo into a particularly sassy Disney princess archetype even though she looks and acts completely different from before is particularly transparent hack writing.

    2. Your Vest Friend

      Your Vest Friend

      Do you mind if I do a Rex Dangervest hijack on this? Will do anyway soz. 

      I think it would have worked better if her character change has been more drastically influenced by her circumstances. Getting lost like that could definitely be something that forces a character through drastic changes, but Bo didn't seem like it bothered her that much since all she did was go "Ah well, gotta adapt" and went on with it with a completely different personality. Emmet's change was more drastic, effectively becoming his complete inverse, but it's made clear that his isolating experience traumatised him massively and his new personality is almost a response to the causes of that trauma. That combined with madness since he also had to deal with learning the reality of LEGO, something Bo doesn't have to do with the different rules Toy Story has in general.

    3. Jack at the Cinema

      Jack at the Cinema

      Bo sucked in previous movies, so I see this as an overall improvement.

    4. Supah Berry

      Supah Berry

      Its always with the opposite extremes with characterizing a woman these days. You go from a satellite damsel in distress to an ultra woke, independent and OP Mary Sue action girl.


      Middle ground is for chumps.


      (I'm making it clear that this doesn't reflect on my thoughts on Bo specifically)

    5. Wraith


      The reason Bo turned out the way she did was pretty believable imo. Of all the flaws of the movie that didn't stick out much.

    6. Enderwoman


      It is better than Toy Story 3.

    7. Stasis


      There's so much wrong with TS4 but Bo wasn't that much of an issue.

    8. Sean


      Bo didn't suck in the first two films she just needed more depth and more things to do. Turning her into an entirely different character wasn't the only solution.

    9. Soniman


      It's been like a decade, people change, I could believe it 

    10. Ryannumber1gamer


      I thought Bo was perfectly fine for the reasons others have mentioned. She was fairly eh in TS1 and 2, and with how long she'd been gone in TS4, especially having to live in the shop with Gabby running it, and her mentioning it being a bad place, it's not too hard to believe her personality ended up changing.

      My bigger problem with how badly they decided to dumb down Buzz. Not only does he end up leaving Woody to try save Forky again - the same dude who travelled miles in a city to save his best friend, loyal til the end for him - ended up being stupid enough to take "inner voice" literally, and got demoted to a fairly bit role in comparison to the other characters, and loses a good bit of the loyalty he once had to stick with Woody no matter what.

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