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  1. Because with DLC you are exchanging cash for actual goods, digital or not. MvC:I's scumminess has to do with whether Capcom held back finished content to include in the game for extra money after the fact. If we give Capcom the benefit of the doubt on that, MvC:I was a completely different game from MvC 3 seemingly made from the ground up (no matter how much of a dumpster fire it always looked like as a result), so no assumptions should be made about whether you'll get ground up recreations of popular characters. Remember how Infinite looked fucking disgusting, with an atrocious art style and nasty looking character models? That's because they didn't port seemingly anything from the fantastic looking (but old) MvC 3 and instead actually (seemingly) made everything from scratch. If you want to dictate that you should always get the same characters in every game in a fighting game franchise, that's how you get the running joke of "MvC 3 Morrigan Model Leaked" from before she was actually shown: Because up until that point Capcom had done that, and her sprites looked terrible by the time CvS 2/MvC 2 came around. Previous games made by different developers with different gameplay and a different art style on different platforms. Not only is the discussion about post-release DLC irrelevant to a discussion about loot box-based microtransactions, but it is extra irrelevant when you're making the argument that you are owed characters from other games in this completely unrelated game made from scratch by someone who had nothing to do with those other games. Yes, if you see a developer basically just lying through their teeth to justify low content count (Forza 5 was an infamous example early this generation with it's "scratch built" car models that somehow had the exact same modeling errors as the ones from the 360 titles in the series; Pokemon Sword and Shield hasn't come out yet and it looks all the world like they are doing the same thing), it's perfectly acceptable to call them out on it. Especially if they are buttressing that low content count with paid DLC after release, because that's certainly explotatitive. But even in that situation (which doesn't apply to the two games you brought up) it wouldn't be the same thing as exchanging real money for theoretical chance at game advancement; which is what the thread is about.
  2. They are, but loot boxes specifically have an element of chance that microtransactions before the current console generation (ish) never fussed with. You pay a buck or two, you get a gun or whatever that let's you immediately fuck up people online. You pay a buck or two (or, increasingly, 4 or 5) and you get some cosmetic item that the developer spent probably an hour putting together. It can be scummy, especially when it went hand in hand with developers fine tuning games to make it deliberately beneficial to buy such things and especially when they were limited-use; but it's the gambling element where you don't even know what you're getting for the money you spend that makes it so it should have run afoul gambling laws earlier and make it inherently nasty (instead of just potentially so based on implementation).
  3. Finally, Sega has made a good decision about IDW. I don't want to get into an argument for criticizing the Boom Characters again, but yes, they were created for an stupid cartoon with Sonic slapped in it. Before Sonic's image was unified. And frankly they are not relevant anymore.
  4. Between blaming parents for the industry practices and insisting that letting companies run wild with microtransactions free of any consumer protection is the proper course, I don't think you are, frankly. I don't care what Jim Sterling says on any subject, but I especially don't care in the context of "here's a video that makes my argument for me" even if I was to assume you weren't missing the point of what he was saying when using it as evidence. None of this stuff in the OP is news. None of this stuff is news on SSMB. The companies who implement MTX frequently deliberately balance and implement these systems to catch people who would be flagged in the actual gaming industry as having an addiction problem. There are entire seminars on YouTube where about how to do it effectively, and how to target those people. Bringing up kids and parent's credit cards is a red herring because that's not who is being targeted or providing the majority of the money; and the only reason to do so at this point is to defend companies that are ready and willing to defend scummy exploitative behavior to each other but try to pretend it's fine to consumers.
  5. People should stop making the stupid, specious insinuation that the loot box cottage industry runs off of kids taking their parents credit card; because it's stupid and specious. Arguing such deliberately distracts from the fact that the companies implementing are purposely doing them in a way to exploit people; which is in fact the very thing that governments are typically supposed to prevent. No amount of "keep the gubmint out of mah games" prevents it from coming off as corporate boot licking, either.
    1. Tornado

      Tornado

      Remember the day.

    2. Solister

      Solister

      Ow yeah! That's how games must be done!

      Still actually not playing when it was released (I actually just played it for the first time near 2010), it's a masterpiece forgot by many, but not for me. The Complete Saga was better for including both I and II but this one certainly was the most remarkable.

      Hope Skywalker Saga delivers this old feeling.

    3. Jango

      Jango

      Meanwhile I'm waiting for the Skywalker Saga to be released 

  6. https://www.youtube.com/user/TenchiFreak5/live

     

    Streaming an SNK again. My thumb is less mangled, so maybe I can actually play the games the system was famous for.

  7. I CAN'T BELIEVE EVEN THE US COURT SYSTEM IS OUT TO GET VIC.

    1. Your Vest Friend

      Your Vest Friend

      I know right, I need to get my violin out for him.

      I'm sure the matchbox I keep it in is around here somewhere...

    2. Balding Spider

      Balding Spider

      Why on Earth does this guy have so many people stanning for him? It can't be just because of FMA right?

    3. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      @Balding Spider I’m speaking as an observer her but from what I’ve gathered people are just tired of false accusations of sexual harassment which is turning into a boy who cried wolf situation making it harder for the real victims to stand up since they’re afraid nobody will believe them.

    4. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      No its not.

      Its not even about Vic or false accusations; it's about the alt-right sticking it to the leftists. 

    5. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      I’m sure there’s that too. 

    6. DiamondX

      DiamondX

      @Kuzu the Boloedge For some it's just about Vic and false accusations.

      Seriously, why do you people keep putting politics into this?

    7. Dejimon11

      Dejimon11

      Because it is about politics especially when it’s a legal case.

    8. DiamondX

      DiamondX

      But all this "right" and "left" talk makes no sense to me.

      All it is is a case about possible sexual harassment made by a voice actor.

    9. Zaysho

      Zaysho

      That's because a bunch of conspiracy theorist idiots on YouTube and Twitter made it political. They do not actually care one way or the other, they profit off of the manufactured outrage of his fans so they can keep their stupid culture war going.

    10. Kuzu the Boloedge

      Kuzu the Boloedge

      People are USING the case about sexual harassment to push their political agendas and war.

       

      There has been little to no mention on Vic himself and more how "We gotta stick it to the SJW's" 

    11. Balding Spider

      Balding Spider

      Even without the conspiracy nuts how can it not be tied to politics? Vic is accused of harassment, which is a big topic because of the metoo movement and is an unfortunate part of our history.

  8. It's funny how these things keep miraculously coming up every time Vic's lawsuit suffers a setback.
  9. lol who the fuck is going to buy fucking DMC2?

    1. Shaddy Zaphod

      Shaddy Zaphod

      People who got memed into it by Vinny

    2. AlphaRuby

      AlphaRuby

      New completionists, maybe?

  10. GET SERIOUS MOTHERFUCKERS

  11. To those of you who watched the stream, I hoped you enjoyed it. Hopefully I can do another one of SNK stuff this weekend, and my left thumb will be a bit healed.

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