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    Tornado got a reaction from Blue Blood in IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog   
    Finally, Sega has made a good decision about IDW. I don't want to get into an argument for criticizing the Boom Characters again, but yes, they were created for an stupid cartoon with Sonic slapped in it. Before Sonic's image was unified. And frankly they are not relevant anymore.
     
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    Tornado got a reaction from Dejimon11 in IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog   
    Finally, Sega has made a good decision about IDW. I don't want to get into an argument for criticizing the Boom Characters again, but yes, they were created for an stupid cartoon with Sonic slapped in it. Before Sonic's image was unified. And frankly they are not relevant anymore.
     
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    Tornado got a reaction from dbzfan7 in IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog   
    Finally, Sega has made a good decision about IDW. I don't want to get into an argument for criticizing the Boom Characters again, but yes, they were created for an stupid cartoon with Sonic slapped in it. Before Sonic's image was unified. And frankly they are not relevant anymore.
     
  4. Too Many Rings
    Tornado got a reaction from Conquering Storm’s Servant in IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog   
    Finally, Sega has made a good decision about IDW. I don't want to get into an argument for criticizing the Boom Characters again, but yes, they were created for an stupid cartoon with Sonic slapped in it. Before Sonic's image was unified. And frankly they are not relevant anymore.
     
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    Tornado got a reaction from Tarnish in Official UK Report regarding Loot Boxes in Games - clearly calls them gambling   
    People should stop making the stupid, specious insinuation that the loot box cottage industry runs off of kids taking their parents credit card; because it's stupid and specious. Arguing such deliberately distracts from the fact that the companies implementing are purposely doing them in a way to exploit people; which is in fact the very thing that governments are typically supposed to prevent.
     
     
    No amount of "keep the gubmint out of mah games" prevents it from coming off as corporate boot licking, either.
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    Tornado got a reaction from FFWF in Official UK Report regarding Loot Boxes in Games - clearly calls them gambling   
    People should stop making the stupid, specious insinuation that the loot box cottage industry runs off of kids taking their parents credit card; because it's stupid and specious. Arguing such deliberately distracts from the fact that the companies implementing are purposely doing them in a way to exploit people; which is in fact the very thing that governments are typically supposed to prevent.
     
     
    No amount of "keep the gubmint out of mah games" prevents it from coming off as corporate boot licking, either.
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    Tornado got a reaction from Polkadi~☆ in Official UK Report regarding Loot Boxes in Games - clearly calls them gambling   
    People should stop making the stupid, specious insinuation that the loot box cottage industry runs off of kids taking their parents credit card; because it's stupid and specious. Arguing such deliberately distracts from the fact that the companies implementing are purposely doing them in a way to exploit people; which is in fact the very thing that governments are typically supposed to prevent.
     
     
    No amount of "keep the gubmint out of mah games" prevents it from coming off as corporate boot licking, either.
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    Tornado got a reaction from lbyrd2 in Official UK Report regarding Loot Boxes in Games - clearly calls them gambling   
    Between blaming parents for the industry practices and insisting that letting companies run wild with microtransactions free of any consumer protection is the proper course, I don't think you are, frankly.
    I don't care what Jim Sterling says on any subject, but I especially don't care in the context of "here's a video that makes my argument for me" even if I was to assume you weren't missing the point of what he was saying when using it as evidence.
     
     
    None of this stuff in the OP is news. None of this stuff is news on SSMB. The companies who implement MTX frequently deliberately balance and implement these systems to catch people who would be flagged in the actual gaming industry as having an addiction problem. There are entire seminars on YouTube where about how to do it effectively, and how to target those people.
    Bringing up kids and parent's credit cards is a red herring because that's not who is being targeted or providing the majority of the money; and the only reason to do so at this point is to defend companies that are ready and willing to defend scummy exploitative behavior to each other but try to pretend it's fine to consumers.
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    Tornado got a reaction from lbyrd2 in Official UK Report regarding Loot Boxes in Games - clearly calls them gambling   
    People should stop making the stupid, specious insinuation that the loot box cottage industry runs off of kids taking their parents credit card; because it's stupid and specious. Arguing such deliberately distracts from the fact that the companies implementing are purposely doing them in a way to exploit people; which is in fact the very thing that governments are typically supposed to prevent.
     
     
    No amount of "keep the gubmint out of mah games" prevents it from coming off as corporate boot licking, either.
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    Tornado got a reaction from Pawn in Official UK Report regarding Loot Boxes in Games - clearly calls them gambling   
    Between blaming parents for the industry practices and insisting that letting companies run wild with microtransactions free of any consumer protection is the proper course, I don't think you are, frankly.
    I don't care what Jim Sterling says on any subject, but I especially don't care in the context of "here's a video that makes my argument for me" even if I was to assume you weren't missing the point of what he was saying when using it as evidence.
     
     
    None of this stuff in the OP is news. None of this stuff is news on SSMB. The companies who implement MTX frequently deliberately balance and implement these systems to catch people who would be flagged in the actual gaming industry as having an addiction problem. There are entire seminars on YouTube where about how to do it effectively, and how to target those people.
    Bringing up kids and parent's credit cards is a red herring because that's not who is being targeted or providing the majority of the money; and the only reason to do so at this point is to defend companies that are ready and willing to defend scummy exploitative behavior to each other but try to pretend it's fine to consumers.
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    Tornado reacted to Ryannumber1gamer in Official UK Report regarding Loot Boxes in Games - clearly calls them gambling   
    The viewpoint that parents should be held accountable is a load of absolute bull, and the simple reason for that is that the games industry actually hinders informing people of this. Not only does PEGI and the ESRB never take into account microtransactions, and loot boxes, giving the likes of FIFA a 3+/E for everybody rating, indicating that not much parental guideance is required to regulate this product for your child.
    Better yet, other companies will underhandedly sneak them in later in order to not have microtransactions reflected in the rating at all - Black Ops 4, Crash Team Racing Nitro Fueled both being examples of this.
    When it comes to regulating a video game, your average parent who is doing their job, and isn't very much tapped into what the games themselves entail will do this - they will look at the age rating, use that to determine if it's suitable for their children, and use that to make their decision.
    That's also the thing that keeps letting companies get away with this tactic - because it is a moderately new thing, only raising to prominence in the last 3 years, a lot of the average consumer base is behind on it, and therefore don't even think about it being a problem. We're apart of this industry, and we know about microtransacations and all of the nonsense surrounding it. The average parent or consumer does not, and might do their job in regulating the child's games via the PEGI/ESRB ratings, but have it never cross their mind that these gambling mechanics would be a problem, period. 
    That's how a ton of these stories start, the parents being unaware such a thing even exists, finding out when it's too late, trying to get a refund, only for the companies to give either useless responses, or wash their hands of it, because as long as they made their money, they don't care. 
    The idea of blaming people for getting the government involved is a crock of shit. If you want to blame anyone for getting them involved, blame the greedy assholes at the likes of EA, Activision, and whoever else for pushing this so hard to the point the Government had to get involved. It's been pushed to the point legitimate slot machines are now being presented in sports titles, that is the point we are at. Blaming the consumer for this, and not the companies who got so greedy in the first place is a ridiculous notion.
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    Tornado reacted to Blue Blood in Official UK Report regarding Loot Boxes in Games - clearly calls them gambling   
    Are you a troll? Like seriously, are you just goading people with these remarks that you always make about loot boxes and microtransactions? Because they tell of such a high level of ignorance and you're purposefully skirting around the issues that anyone is actually presenting.
    Kids spending money is the least of anyone's concern. Kids aren't the targets.
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    Tornado got a reaction from Solly in Dragon Ball (Warning: Untagged Spoilers)   
    It's funny how these things keep miraculously coming up every time Vic's lawsuit suffers a setback. 
  14. Too Many Rings
    Tornado got a reaction from 8ther in Dragon Ball (Warning: Untagged Spoilers)   
    No.
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    Tornado got a reaction from Zaysho in Dragon Ball (Warning: Untagged Spoilers)   
    It's funny how these things keep miraculously coming up every time Vic's lawsuit suffers a setback. 
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    Tornado got a reaction from Pawn in Dragon Ball (Warning: Untagged Spoilers)   
    It's funny how these things keep miraculously coming up every time Vic's lawsuit suffers a setback. 
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    Tornado got a reaction from DaddlerTheDalek in IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog   
    My sides.
    "Write."
    You've been whining about how Shadow was handled in World's Unite (and Archie as a whole) for at least half a year across multiple threads, and that's just from the ones I remember seeing in topics that I usually don't bother looking at since I couldn't give less of a shit about IDW until someone reports something in a thread talking about it. I don't think anyone actually believes that you consider it "just a thing," so much as a "heinous character derailing act that signifies how much the head writer of the comic hates the character I wish I could bang in real life."
    "Sense."
    Maybe if the Wonder Twins had been in the comic for nearly a decade before Batman was and it was far more their comic than it ever was Batman's.
     
    And "crossover."
    "It's"
    I know for a fact this was explained to you in such simple terms that it might as well have been phonetic, and you still just ignored it. This goes along with the "make shit up to support my tortured reading of the material" thing that you're constantly called out on.
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    Tornado got a reaction from Zaysho in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - PLEASE SPOILER TAG LEAKS   
    I hope Era is fucking on fire now.
  19. Chuckle
    Tornado got a reaction from tailsBOOM! in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - PLEASE SPOILER TAG LEAKS   
    I hope Era is fucking on fire now.
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    Tornado got a reaction from gato in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - PLEASE SPOILER TAG LEAKS   
    ARE YOU OKAY!?
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    Tornado got a reaction from Waveshocker Sigma in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - PLEASE SPOILER TAG LEAKS   
    ARE YOU OKAY!?
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    Tornado got a reaction from lbyrd2 in Sonic Monopoly   
    Speed Highway is far too nice of a level to be saddled as being the shitty purple ones. Make that shit Crisis City or something.
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    Tornado got a reaction from lbyrd2 in IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog   
    Yeah, no. Even if, somehow, you expect me to believe that this time that's not what you meant when you say something implying that you're the only one capable of critical analysis; you've got a rap sheet a mile long from this exact thing. We've had members tell us outright that they avoid topics you post in because of this exact thing. Multiple staff members have attempted to have conversations with you where you've done this exact thing. You were already banned once, and fairly recently, for this exact thing.
     
    "People could just try not being offended when I do this exact thing, except I somehow don't mean it in that way this time" isn't an option you're being presented with. You can choose your words more carefully, so they don't come off as completely indistinguishable from when you're deliberately being condescending, or you can leave.
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    Tornado got a reaction from PublicEnemy1 in IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog   
    Yeah, no. Even if, somehow, you expect me to believe that this time that's not what you meant when you say something implying that you're the only one capable of critical analysis; you've got a rap sheet a mile long from this exact thing. We've had members tell us outright that they avoid topics you post in because of this exact thing. Multiple staff members have attempted to have conversations with you where you've done this exact thing. You were already banned once, and fairly recently, for this exact thing.
     
    "People could just try not being offended when I do this exact thing, except I somehow don't mean it in that way this time" isn't an option you're being presented with. You can choose your words more carefully, so they don't come off as completely indistinguishable from when you're deliberately being condescending, or you can leave.
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    Tornado got a reaction from Kellodrawsalot in IDW's Sonic the Hedgehog   
    Yeah, no. Even if, somehow, you expect me to believe that this time that's not what you meant when you say something implying that you're the only one capable of critical analysis; you've got a rap sheet a mile long from this exact thing. We've had members tell us outright that they avoid topics you post in because of this exact thing. Multiple staff members have attempted to have conversations with you where you've done this exact thing. You were already banned once, and fairly recently, for this exact thing.
     
    "People could just try not being offended when I do this exact thing, except I somehow don't mean it in that way this time" isn't an option you're being presented with. You can choose your words more carefully, so they don't come off as completely indistinguishable from when you're deliberately being condescending, or you can leave.
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